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06.28.07

Quick Change Artist

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New ESPN column today — here’s the link. Plus I also have a review of last night’s No Mas event on today’s Page 2 index page.

Meanwhile: Great little uniform-related episode in the 4th inning of Tuesday night’s Cubs/Rockies game, when Chicago pitcher Ted Lilly was due to bat but was momentarily AWOL, leading to some good uni-centric chatter from Cubbies announcers Bob Brenly and Len Kasper:

Brenly: Because Felix Pie [the previous batter] swung at the first pitch, Ted Lilly’s not ready to take his at-bat right here. Takin’ care of some business up the tunnel there, in the Cubs’ clubhouse. [Lilly emerges from the dugout and hustles up to the plate.] Now he’s gonna sprint up there.

Kasper: Y’know, I wonder if he changed his jersey, which I know Carlos Zambrano does. [Lilly fidgets with his uniform as he steps into the batter’s box.] Kinda grabbin’ his top button there. We only know about Carlos because of the brawl against the Padres — he came out and didn’t have his belt buckled.

Brenly: We were probably fortunate the brawl didn’t happen, say, five minutes sooner. No telling what Carlos would’ve been wearing as he came out of the tunnel. Or not wearing. [Camera offers a close-up of Lilly’s midsection.]

Kasper [chuckling]: Belt buckle’s fine. Does Ted normally wear batting gloves? [Yes. — PL] For some reason he just looks different than I’m used to seeing him at the plate.

Brenly: I’m not so sure he has any undershirt on at this point. [Camera shows that Lilly, who’d been wearing a white undershirt in the top of the inning, now appears to be undershirt-free. He continues to fidget and fuss with his jersey.] Usually you can see the collar of the undershirt right there in the nape of the neck, but it doesn’t look like he has an undershirt on right now. May have been interrupted in mid-change. You know, it’s not unusual for starting pitcher, Len, to change undershirts three or four times in the course of a ballgame. You start to perspire out there on the mound, as hard as you’re working. The undershirt gets heavy and wet, restricts your movements a little bit. [Lilly grounds out and fidgets with his jersey one last time.]

Kasper: Well, Ted Lilly might go back and get dressed again.

This reminds me of Game 5 of the 1969 World Series, which featured a slight delay when Frank Robinson was due to bat (I’m fairly certain it was the 6th inning) but was nowhere to be found. He eventually popped out of the dugout while still tucking in his jersey, with his shirttail tag clearly visible. This game shows up on TV from time to time. Anyone got it on video?

(Special thanks to John Lanctot, who brought the Lilly sequence to my attention.)

Uni Watch News Ticker: The President isn’t the only one who gets free uni-related swag — Chief Justice John Roberts got an MSU hockey jersey during the team’s recent visit to DC, which I guess means he has to recuse himself from any college hockey-related cases that reach the Supreme Court (with thanks to Christopher Drouin). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Buddy Bell and the rest of the Royals coaching staff will wear No. 22 on Sunday, as a tribute to Negro Leagues stalwart Buck O’Neil. … Check out the gorgeous ribbed collar and cuffs in this shot of Ernie Banks. No wonder he wanted to play two! … I swear, is there something in the Shea Stadium water or what? From yesterday’s New York Times: “Several players wore orange T-shirts beneath their jerseys [Tuesday] night that featured a likeness of Bozo the Clown and the words, ‘Enough!’ on the front and ‘There ain’t a big top big enough for this circus’ on the back.” As I’ve said too many times before, why not just dress the team like clowns and get it over with already? … Brinke Guthrie notes that Roger Federer is wearing signature sneakers at Wimbledon. The four Swiss emblems represent Federer’s four staight Wimbledon titles. … I get my health insurance through these guys. As you can see, their web site is very plain-looking, as are all their mailings and other graphics. So I was surprised to see them running this ad on the subway yesterday. I mean, geez, does it remind you of anything? … Great article here about managers’ and coaches’ attire (with special get-well thanks to Tessa, who sent in this contribution from her hospital bed). … From yesterday’s comments: Bill Belichick appears to have initial-inscribed shorts. … Aqua Paradiso is an Italian mineral water with a winged-angel design motif. They also sponsor a volleyball team, whose players are forced to wear the wings in an unfortunate location (nice find by Jeremy Brahm). … Manny’s latest stunt (as reported by Jere): wristbands in honor of hs hairdresser (yes, the numbers don’t match, but the name does — maybe they couldn’t make a three-digit wristband). … Interesting, if somewhat outdated, find by Ethan Rowley: Some teams in the IWFL — that’s Independent Women’s Football League, dummy — have used old uniforms donated by NFL teams. And if you think NFL uniforms are too big to be worn by women, think again.

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I would say that subway ad looks more like the new Vanilla Coke Zero packaging:

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The “four Swiss emblems” link isn’t working, Paul.

And as for the Mets? I still have loyalty to them, but their uniform disasters are just pitiful.

Was Ted Lilly in the can or something? I remember in one of Jay Johnstone’s books he told a story about having an awful case of the trots because of some bad Mexican food, and Tommy Lasorda (who was annoyed at him, the two had silly fights from time to time) wanted him to pinch hit. Johnstone cinches up his pants, bolts out to the field, grabs a bat, and then hits a home run.

Love that MSU jersey! Seems shiny, though - anyone know what is it made of and if I can get one?

The “four Swiss emblems” link isn’t working, Paul.

There was a bad code that had messed up that whole sentence. Now fixed.

Those Paradiso shorts rhyme with day.

I gotta get a pair.

So was Lilly wearing an undershirt when he returned to the mound?

More wardrobe controversy at Wimbledon:

http://www.thesun.co...

Interesting that Joe Torre was interviewed about wearing a uniform in the dugout when he himself rarely wears his official jersey. How can they retire his number when he never wears it? If I was in charge, I would mandate that all managers and coaches have to wear a jersey instead of those horrible looking “official” team wear. That goes for you too, Rick Peterson. Wear your jacket if you want, but a jersey better be on underneath!

I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?

Torre wears the uniform top about 75% of the time (he was wearing one last night). At least he’s not as bad as Terry Francona, who just wears a big baggy sweatshirt to every game.

Of course, there’s Tom Coughlin’s typically humorless response to the question: “Do I get any extra timeouts or extra points for it?” Coughlin said. “Is there any reason I should do that?”

Boy, the guy must be a barrel of laughs at parties.

the weird thing about Manny’s wristband is that it looks like it is missing the “s”…if we go by the jersey that his hairdresser is wearing, it should say “LMONSTRO”…but it looks like his wristband says “LMONTRO”…maybe I’m seeing things

Lilly was not wearing an undershirt when he went back to the mound the next inning (5th), because he made the second out, and by the time he got back to the dugout it was almost time to go pitch again. I cant remember if when he came out for the 6th he was wearing an undershirt.

Manny has a hairdresser? Who knew?

The No Mas Lottery mentioned in yesterdays blog was a big success last night. I walked out with Chris Webber (#18 pick) and Danny Ferry (#96 pick). Great stuff!

Paul,
You and I will have to agree to disagree. I love the orange undershirts that the some of the Mets wear. But I think we’re missing the bigger picture. The reason they can wear the orange is because for the last 4 games they have worn BLUE caps at home for weekday night games. Let’s not look a gift horse in the mouth.

Paul,
You and I will have to agree to disagree. I love the orange undershirts that the some of the Mets wear.

The main problem with an orange undershirt is that it’s not a blue undershirt, which is what they should be wearing.

But my comment was more about what was printed ON the undershirts. Who the hell would wear that?

the weird thing about Manny’s wristband is that it looks like it is missing the “s”…if we go by the jersey that his hairdresser is wearing, it should say “LMONSTRO”…but it looks like his wristband says “LMONTRO”…maybe I’m seeing things

In my blog entry yesterday when I posted those shots, I did note this. But yeah, you’re right. No S on the wristbands.

Paul,
You and I will have to agree to disagree. I love the orange undershirts that the some of the Mets wear.

The main problem with an orange undershirt is that it’s not a blue undershirt, which is what they should be wearing.

But my comment was more about what was printed ON the undershirts. Who the hell would wear that?

As long as they win they can wear NYC Dept of Sanitation , Bozo the Clown or even Otto on an orange t-shirt if they want to as long as they wear their home cap (all blue) at home and their road cap (black cap / blue brim) on the road and ditch the all black jersey’s.

Hey paul, my last post got eaten by the Spam Monster. Can you fix that? Thanks.

At least he’s not as bad as Terry Francona, who just wears a big baggy sweatshirt to every game.

Francona has problems with his circulation, which requires him to wear warm clothing over his jersey. We did get to see his #47–at the ring ceremony.

I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?

This is untrue — I just called the Jets. They will, however, be wearing open-ass leather chaps when they take it up the tail from the Patriots later this year.

I agree about what’s on the Mets’ shirts. I’m hoping there’s some inside joke about it. If not then it’s just pathetic.

Kudos to Tessa for exhibiting a new level of uni obsession. Keep the gown closed and get home soon.

I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?

This is untrue — I just called the Jets. They will, however, be wearing open-ass leather chaps when they take it up the tail from the Patriots later this year.

But we wore that last year.

At least he’s not as bad as Terry Francona, who just wears a big baggy sweatshirt to every game.

Francona has problems with his circulation, which requires him to wear warm clothing over his jersey. We did get to see his #47–at the ring ceremony.

I think this at least looks a lot better than this and especially this. I still think it would look way better if he wore the fleece under the jersey, though.

That subway ad reminds me of the album cover to Steely Dan’s Aja.

So I went to the IWFL website and looked at the teams. Does the logo for the Southern Maine Rebels
http://www.southernm...

Remind you of anything?
http://en.wikipedia....

Not only are they women playing football, but they make a nerdy Star Wars reference with their logo. Nice. :)

Manny has a hairdresser? Who knew?

Manny needs a weed whacker.
Ain’t no hairdresser gettin near that nest.

That subway ad reminds me of the album cover to Steely Dan’s Aja.

I like how the ‘F’ and ‘U’ are highlighted at the top of the ad.

I know it’s tradition etc etc etc, but I find managers wearing field uniforms (and cleats!) totally silly. Unless you’re on the 25-man roster, wear street clothes.

I’ve heard the J-E-T-S will wear blue and gold Titans throwback uniforms for one game this season. Can anyone confirm that information? Has anyone seen pics?

This is untrue — I just called the Jets. They will, however, be wearing open-ass leather chaps when they take it up the tail from the Patriots later this year.

But we wore that last year.

The only NFL throwbacks I’ve heard of are the Steelers with the yellow helmets and the Eagles in a weird aquamarine/yellow combo.

Manny has a hairdresser? Who knew?

Manny needs a weed whacker.
Ain’t no hairdresser gettin near that nest.

I love how Manny’s helmet stands high on his head because of all the hair that’s crammed under it.

I agree with Sage. Get well soon, and get home for hockey, Tessa! :o)

I know it’s tradition etc etc etc, but I find managers wearing field uniforms (and cleats!) totally silly. Unless you’re on the 25-man roster, wear street clothes.

Wouldn’t coaches look a tad silly hitting fungos in khakis and a polo shirt?

I know it’s tradition etc etc etc, but I find managers wearing field uniforms (and cleats!) totally silly. Unless you’re on the 25-man roster, wear street clothes.

when did managers start wearing spikes? I know a vast majority wear trainers and turf shoes, but I don’t think spikes would be ideal for walking around in the dugout…

I know it’s tradition etc etc etc, but I find managers wearing field uniforms (and cleats!) totally silly. Unless you’re on the 25-man roster, wear street clothes.

when did managers start wearing spikes? I know a vast majority wear trainers and turf shoes, but I don’t think spikes would be ideal for walking around in the dugout…

Jim Leyland’s known for wearing spikes, but there are few, if any, others who do.

count me as one of those who think baseball managers should wear the jersey and not a jacket/pull-over/sweater.

Just found out that my Alma Mater, Louisiana Tech University, is moving to Nike and will get new unis for this upcoming football season. Fortunatly, they will not be the F-ed up Nike unis, but a Red, White, and Reflex Blue version of LSU’s current Nike unis–which is a style LA Tech has been wearing since before the Blonde Bomber was there. The only drawback is the Swoosh will be on the uniforms now…

I’m sure the men’s and women’s basketball unis will get a makeover, and that sould be interesting…

Look at this beauty!!!!

Someone needs to tell Bob Brenly the nape is the BACK of the neck.

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David Ortiz has also been wearing the LMONSTRO wristband.

I also never made the connection to the Freelancers’ Union ad and the Coke can. And side-by-side, I just didn’t see it. The waves look different.

Also, my favorite mineral water from Italy? Verna, of course.

http://www.acqua2o.i...

Oden chooses 52

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More wardrobe controversy at Wimbledon:

http://www.thesun.co...

*more rubbish newspaper talking rubbish

Love how they don’t seem to realise that she’s probably just wearing shorts so that she doesn’t expose her underwear. LIKE ALL THE OTHER FEMALE PLAYERS AT THIS TOURNAMENT.

So I went to the IWFL website and looked at the teams. Does the logo for the Southern Maine Rebels
http://www.southernm...

Remind you of anything?
http://en.wikipedia....

Not only are they women playing football, but they make a nerdy Star Wars reference with their logo. Nice. :)

While most are pretty good logos that follow all the rules, there are some really weak ones. Having compiled quite a collection with over 300 logos for over 200 teams, I have been working on an all-inclusive women’s tackle football logo website.

Some teams in the IWFL — that’s Independent Women’s Football League, dummy — have used old uniforms donated by NFL teams. And if you think NFL uniforms are too big to be worn by women, think again.

And by the way, there are no women’s football unis… so, there was always a little extra pouch of fabric up front in the pants!

I know it’s tradition etc etc etc, but I find managers wearing field uniforms (and cleats!) totally silly. Unless you’re on the 25-man roster, wear street clothes.

when did managers start wearing spikes? I know a vast majority wear trainers and turf shoes, but I don’t think spikes would be ideal for walking around in the dugout…

Jim Leyland’s known for wearing spikes, but there are few, if any, others who do.

I, for one, would wear spikes in a dugout. With all that tobacco, saliva and phlegm, I would want the soles of my shoes to be propped up by half an inch with metal blades. If it wasn’t so awkward, I would wear them at work, just to stand infront of the urinals.

Think about it. Your rubber sole is smashing into a puddle that is a petri dish of nasty. You then go home, and tromp around the carpet that your two year old plays on.

No thanks.

Oden chooses 52

http://www.yardbarke...

What wonderful grammar and spelling in Oden’s post. All graduates of TOSU must be very proud.

Maybe Manny should worry more about going 0-5 and allowing the Sox to get swept by the Mariners than he should about his hair???

From MLB’s Official Rules of Baseball:

Rule 3.15
No person shall be allowed on the playing field during a game except players and coaches in uniform, managers, news photographers authorized by the home team, umpires, officers of the law in uniform and watchmen or other employees of the home club.

I know it was a rule back in the early days of baseball that the manager had to be in the team uniform, but I can not find a rule that specifically states this. If you read the rule I just stated, only the players and coaches are to be in full uniform, though to step onto the field, you have to be in full uniform. So, managers should be in full uniform to enter the field, but apparently they don’t have to have the jersey on as long as they have the pants?

SI did a biggest NBA draft busts photo gallery. Included in there is Kent Benson, who while playing for Indiana, made the cover of Sports Illustrated in March of ‘76. On the cover, we see him scoring against a Marquette guy. This is probably well known among uni-enthusiasts, but look at that Marquette uniform! The way the jersey top hangs, with the yellow piping, rounded along the bottom. The giant number on the front. The Marquette name along the bottom. It’s pretty cool, and yet also sort of ugly (at least in my opinion).

Near the end of her 2007 video, Houston Texans cheerleader Celina tells us a little about her sock collection. I swear this sports uniform related, and not just an excuse to ogle a hot cheerleader.

Cheerleader link:
http://www.houstonte...

Oden chooses 52

http://www.yardbarke...

What wonderful grammar and spelling in Oden’s post. All graduates of TOSU must be very proud.

I guess Portland hasn’t retired Buck Williams’ number then.

Oden chooses 52

http://www.yardbarke...

What wonderful grammar and spelling in Oden’s post. All graduates of TOSU must be very proud.

That’s what I thought. Somebody should ask him wear his new uniform is.

Today’s ESPN column is up.

Also, I have a short review of last night’s No Mas “Lottery” event today on Page 2 (scroll down to where it says “Ewing Goes No. 1″).

LMONSTRO is his nickname which is spanish for “the monster”…Im from the Dominican Republic as Ortiz and Manny and it probaly says LMONTRO cause we take out the “s” from every spanish word over here.

Lilly was not wearing an undershirt when he went back to the mound the next inning (5th), because he made the second out, and by the time he got back to the dugout it was almost time to go pitch again. I cant remember if when he came out for the 6th he was wearing an undershirt.

Lilly had no undershirt the rest of the game.

I also am firmly of the belief that baseball managers don’t need to wear double-knit polyester (especially the more rotund of them), but if they must, please ditch the Hefty bag and at least wear the jersey. I don’t like the warm-up look at all.

Paul,
You and I will have to agree to disagree. I love the orange undershirts that the some of the Mets wear.

The main problem with an orange undershirt is that it’s not a blue undershirt, which is what they should be wearing.

Orange is my anti-black.

I try to wear as much orange as possible when I see the Mets at the Ted so that I stand out even more amongst the Chop-When-We’re-Winning types.

Blue and black blend. Orange is a declaration of allegiance!

By the way, does anyone have a suggestion for removing swooshes?

Paul,
You and I will have to agree to disagree. I love the orange undershirts that the some of the Mets wear.

The main problem with an orange undershirt is that it’s not a blue undershirt, which is what they should be wearing.

Orange is my anti-black.

I try to wear as much orange as possible when I see the Mets at the Ted so that I stand out even more amongst the Chop-When-We’re-Winning types.

Blue and black blend. Orange is a declaration of allegiance!

By the way, does anyone have a suggestion for removing swooshes?

is it emboidered or silk screened?

I posted this last night, but late. The Mets have worn blue caps 5 games in a row. I don’t think this has happened since probably 1997. Could this mean that the mlb like how they forced the Mets to wear the BP caps during BP have also mandated that they wear their home caps at home and their road caps on the road?…god I hope so. (knocks on wood)

SI did a biggest NBA draft busts photo gallery. Included in there is Kent Benson, who while playing for Indiana, made the cover of Sports Illustrated in March of ‘76. On the cover, we see him scoring against a Marquette guy. This is probably well known among uni-enthusiasts, but look at that Marquette uniform! The way the jersey top hangs, with the yellow piping, rounded along the bottom. The giant number on the front. The Marquette name along the bottom. It’s pretty cool, and yet also sort of ugly (at least in my opinion).

My beloved Nets (only until they move to Brooklyn, then I’m DONE with them) have two players on the list, but how could S.I. over look their worst pick - Yinka (Stinka) Dare?

Looks like Dave Bush of the Brewers has switched from wearing Pumas http://newyork.yanke... to wearing New Balance Spikes (from yesterdays game)

http://www.jsonline....

the 1969 worldd series has been on sny as a met classic. frank robinson appeared to be hit by a pitch, but the umpire ruled that he was not. after arguing, he went into the dugout and then came back. not quite sure if he was changing his uniform, or getting treatment

SI did a biggest NBA draft busts photo gallery. Included in there is Kent Benson, who while playing for Indiana, made the cover of Sports Illustrated in March of ‘76. On the cover, we see him scoring against a Marquette guy. This is probably well known among uni-enthusiasts, but look at that Marquette uniform! The way the jersey top hangs, with the yellow piping, rounded along the bottom. The giant number on the front. The Marquette name along the bottom. It’s pretty cool, and yet also sort of ugly (at least in my opinion).

My beloved Nets (only until they move to Brooklyn, then I’m DONE with them) have two players on the list, but how could S.I. over look their worst pick - Yinka (Stinka) Dare?

Oh yes, Yinka. I think he was excluded because all the people on the list were drafted within the top 10 picks (in fact only 2 members were drafted out of the top 5) and Mr. Dare went #14 in 1994. That year does include a bust of its own though: Jason Kidd. What the heck ever happened to him?

That subway ad reminds me of the album cover to Steely Dan’s Aja.

I like how the ‘F’ and ‘U’ are highlighted at the top of the ad.

Yeah, they are totally showing how they feel about their customers there Paul.

Oden chooses 52

http://www.yardbarke...

What wonderful grammar and spelling in Oden’s post. All graduates of TOSU must be very proud.

That’s what I thought. Somebody should ask him wear his new uniform is.

Funny, I noticed the spelling and grammar (or lack thereof) too, but what really struck me about the blog (and I read several of the entries) is this: Greg Oden is a young man with extraordinary athletic ability. He has been coached and more than likely has his ass kissed because of it since he was 5 years old. He is about to embark on a career that will provide him and his family financial security in perpetuity. In what has become all too rare an occurrence, he also seems to have none of the sense of entitlement that so many young athletes have today.
Go back to his blog and read the entry about his meeting with Bill Russell, Bill Walton, David Robinson, Patrick Ewing and Bob Lanier. To smack-talk about how he’s going to shatter records and be better than all of those guys (not that anyone will EVER be better than Russell!). Just a sincere appreciation for the time spent and for the opportunity to soak up some knowledge. Also in the entry about his first day in New York, what was the last time you heard an athlete (or any high-profile individual) say a media training session was “fun”.

Greg Oden is a unique talent and a unique individual. Portland, get ready. Something special is coming your way!

From MLB’s Official Rules of Baseball:

Rule 3.15
No person shall be allowed on the playing field during a game except players and coaches in uniform, managers, news photographers authorized by the home team, umpires, officers of the law in uniform and watchmen or other employees of the home club.

I know it was a rule back in the early days of baseball that the manager had to be in the team uniform, but I can not find a rule that specifically states this. If you read the rule I just stated, only the players and coaches are to be in full uniform, though to step onto the field, you have to be in full uniform. So, managers should be in full uniform to enter the field, but apparently they don’t have to have the jersey on as long as they have the pants?

I think you’re reading that wrong. The rule requires players and coaches to be in uniform to be on the field. Managers are no more required to be in uniform than the grounds crew. The rule just allows managers on the field. That’s all it does with regard to them.

To smack-talk about how he’s going to shatter records and be better than all of those guys (not that anyone will EVER be better than Russell!). Just a sincere appreciation for the time spent and for the opportunity to soak up some knowledge.quote]

Sorry, I made a bad typo that would COMPLETELY negate any further statements I made . . .

It should read “NO smack-talk” not “TO smack-talk”.

SI did a biggest NBA draft busts photo gallery. Included in there is Kent Benson, who while playing for Indiana, made the cover of Sports Illustrated in March of ‘76. On the cover, we see him scoring against a Marquette guy. This is probably well known among uni-enthusiasts, but look at that Marquette uniform! The way the jersey top hangs, with the yellow piping, rounded along the bottom. The giant number on the front. The Marquette name along the bottom. It’s pretty cool, and yet also sort of ugly (at least in my opinion).

Aww, Kent Benson. He’s a total hero here in Bloomington, and it was a poor shame his talents didn’t translate to the NBA.

Looking past that lovely Marquette jersey, you gotta love those striped socks on Benson. Hopefully, someone on the 07-08 Hoosiers will bring that back…

Paul,
You and I will have to agree to disagree. I love the orange undershirts that the some of the Mets wear.

The main problem with an orange undershirt is that it’s not a blue undershirt, which is what they should be wearing.

But my comment was more about what was printed ON the undershirts. Who the hell would wear that?

Seriously, who cares about what is written on the undershirt? You can’t see it. If the New York Times hadn’t pointed out what was on the shirts, no one would have known and life as we know it would have just gone on. Everyone would have just assumed that it was a regular orange t-shirt; instead, now that the Times article has come out, suddenly it’s “who the hell would wear that” and “that’s just pathetic”? People, please.

The obsessive study of athletics aesthetics is a fun thing, but sometimes it gets downright silly.

I posted this last night, but late. The Mets have worn blue caps 5 games in a row. I don’t think this has happened since probably 1997. Could this mean that the mlb like how they forced the Mets to wear the BP caps during BP have also mandated that they wear their home caps at home and their road caps on the road?…god I hope so. (knocks on wood)

Wow, I never thought of that! That would be great indeed. Sort of like getting dealt a bunch of lemons and making lemonade. Or something like that……

Here are photos of a prototype for what ultimately became the Reds 1999 road uniforms. They were considering going to a black sleeve instead of a vest. Yikes. And the thick-stripes on the pants were just plain ugly. I am quite pleased that they gave the thumbs down to this idea.

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Those are very softball-ish. I love all of these uniforms-that-never-were that people have posted today. Keep ‘em comin’.

If I recall correctly, a while back someone posted that the Mets were contemplating going to a powder-blue road uni, and that a player (Jon Matlack?) had worn the prototype to the All-Star Game that year (not sure what year it was). Anyone have the info and/or pics?

I second the notion for a column on uni prototypes.

Here are photos of a prototype for what ultimately became the Reds 1999 road uniforms. They were considering going to a black sleeve instead of a vest. Yikes. And the thick-stripes on the pants were just plain ugly. I am quite pleased that they gave the thumbs down to this idea.

http://i62.photobuck...

http://i62.photobuck...

http://i62.photobuck...

http://i62.photobuck...

Those are very softball-ish. I love all of these uniforms-that-never-were that people have posted today. Keep ‘em comin’.

If I recall correctly, a while back someone posted that the Mets were contemplating going to a powder-blue road uni, and that a player (Jon Matlack?) had worn the prototype to the All-Star Game that year (not sure what year it was). Anyone have the info and/or pics?

I second the notion for a column on uni prototypes.

Dear Lord, that’s gross. That makes the Mets look blue and orange.

Seriously, who cares about what is written on the undershirt? You can’t see it. If the New York Times hadn’t pointed out what was on the shirts, no one would have known and life as we know it would have just gone on. Everyone would have just assumed that it was a regular orange t-shirt; instead, now that the Times article has come out, suddenly it’s “who the hell would wear that” and “that’s just pathetic”? People, please.

The obsessive study of athletics aesthetics is a fun thing, but sometimes it gets downright silly.

I…I think you might have walked in the wrong door. “UniAmbivilance” is down the hall.

View the Red Sox themed NASCAR Carl Edwards #99 Lumber Liquidators Ford Fusion at these links:

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Seriously, who cares about what is written on the undershirt? You can’t see it. If the New York Times hadn’t pointed out what was on the shirts, no one would have known and life as we know it would have just gone on. Everyone would have just assumed that it was a regular orange t-shirt; instead, now that the Times article has come out, suddenly it’s “who the hell would wear that” and “that’s just pathetic”? People, please.

The obsessive study of athletics aesthetics is a fun thing, but sometimes it gets downright silly.

I…I think you might have walked in the wrong door. “UniAmbivilance” is down the hall.

It’s not uni-ambivalence (uni-ambivalence?); it’s one thing to say “I don’t like the orange undershirt because it’s not one of their colors”, which I grant you, Paul said. It’s another thing to say “I don’t like the orange undershirt because of the message written on it”, because:

(1) You can’t see it with a buttoned-up jersey,

(2) Until the Times had printed its article, there was no reason for you to assume that it was anything but a sports shirt, ala Nike or Under Armour.

Seriously, who cares about what is written on the undershirt? You can’t see it. If the New York Times hadn’t pointed out what was on the shirts, no one would have known and life as we know it would have just gone on. Everyone would have just assumed that it was a regular orange t-shirt; instead, now that the Times article has come out, suddenly it’s “who the hell would wear that” and “that’s just pathetic”? People, please.

The obsessive study of athletics aesthetics is a fun thing, but sometimes it gets downright silly.

I…I think you might have walked in the wrong door. “UniAmbivilance” is down the hall.

It’s not uni-ambivalence (uni-ambivalence?); it’s one thing to say “I don’t like the orange undershirt because it’s not one of their colors”, which I grant you, Paul said. It’s another thing to say “I don’t like the orange undershirt because of the message written on it”, because:

(1) You can’t see it with a buttoned-up jersey,

(2) Until the Times had printed its article, there was no reason for you to assume that it was anything but a sports shirt, ala Nike or Under Armour.

I think you’re missing the point. They are admitting they are a bunch of clowns. That the team is comparable to a circus.

Paul, did you win anything at the Lottery last night?

Seriously, who cares about what is written on the undershirt? You can’t see it. If the New York Times hadn’t pointed out what was on the shirts, no one would have known and life as we know it would have just gone on. Everyone would have just assumed that it was a regular orange t-shirt; instead, now that the Times article has come out, suddenly it’s “who the hell would wear that” and “that’s just pathetic”? People, please.

The obsessive study of athletics aesthetics is a fun thing, but sometimes it gets downright silly.

I…I think you might have walked in the wrong door. “UniAmbivilance” is down the hall.

It’s not uni-ambivalence (uni-ambivalence?); it’s one thing to say “I don’t like the orange undershirt because it’s not one of their colors”, which I grant you, Paul said. It’s another thing to say “I don’t like the orange undershirt because of the message written on it”, because:

(1) You can’t see it with a buttoned-up jersey,

(2) Until the Times had printed its article, there was no reason for you to assume that it was anything but a sports shirt, ala Nike or Under Armour.

I think the wacky undershirts are cool. The players are obviosly wearing them for a reason otherwise why wouldnt they just used fee swag they get from majestic. John Franco wore his dad’s orange NYC dept. of sanitation shirt under his jersey his whole Mets career. Did anyone complain? no, plus it was a nice little story.

Just heard on ESPN radio Canadian billionaire Jim Balsillie has been officially denied the purchase of the Nashville Predators. Now there is speculation that California businessman William (Boots) DelBiaggio is buying the NHL franchise.
Balsillie, the Canadian Research-in-Motion co-founder had reached a US$238-million deal to buy the Predators. DelBiaggio’s original offer reportedly was a less lucrative US$190 million.
DelBiaggio is after a franchise for Kansas City. Get ready Kansas City, the NHL is on its way. And don’t screw it up this time.!

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What wonderful grammar and spelling in Oden’s post. All graduates of TOSU must be very proud.

That’s what I thought. Somebody should ask him wear his new uniform is.

Funny, I noticed the spelling and grammar (or lack thereof) too, but what really struck me about the blog (and I read several of the entries) is this: Greg Oden is a young man with extraordinary athletic ability. He has been coached and more than likely has his ass kissed because of it since he was 5 years old. He is about to embark on a career that will provide him and his family financial security in perpetuity. In what has become all too rare an occurrence, he also seems to have none of the sense of entitlement that so many young athletes have today.
Go back to his blog and read the entry about his meeting with Bill Russell, Bill Walton, David Robinson, Patrick Ewing and Bob Lanier. To smack-talk about how he’s going to shatter records and be better than all of those guys (not that anyone will EVER be better than Russell!). Just a sincere appreciation for the time spent and for the opportunity to soak up some knowledge. Also in the entry about his first day in New York, what was the last time you heard an athlete (or any high-profile individual) say a media training session was “fun”.

Greg Oden is a unique talent and a unique individual. Portland, get ready. Something special is coming your way!

Very good points sir. I have been wanting to pile on Oden too for the poor grammar, etc, and also for the fact that it’s so obvious that college is becoming a one-and-done program. All that talk from Durant and Oden about how “college is great” and “I’m staying all 4 years to win a championship” was BS and we should’ve known it from the start.

But in the end, I can live with all that. I agree that Oden does seem humbled by the greats of the game and he doesn’t feel like he’s the Second Coming and all the NBA teams should bow to him.

And I have a special affinity for the number 52 so maybe I’ll now buy a jersey…

I think you’re missing the point. They are admitting they are a bunch of clowns. That the team is comparable to a circus.

(1) Seeing as how you are not a member of the ballclub and spent no time in their clubhouse, I’m not quite sure how you can make a statement about what they are saying or “admitting”.

(2) And what does that message on their t-shirt have to do with their uniform? No one has answered that yet.

This is not a Uni-Watch issue. Again, not liking the orange shirt because they should be wearing blue undershirts = a Uni-Watch issue. Not liking the orange shirt not because it’s aesthetically wrong but because of the graphic on the front that you cannot see because the jersey is buttoned over it and therefore doesn’t interfere with how the uniform looks on the playing field= not a Uni-Watch issue.

Let me put it this way: If I said “I don’t like the black armband the Yankees are wearing because it breaks up the symmetry of the uni”, that to me is a Uni-Watch issue. If I said “I don’t like the black armband the Yankees are wearing because they are using it to mourn for Cory Lidle, who I didn’t really care much for”, (which is NOT my POV; I’m just using it as an example) that to me is not a Uni-Watch issue; you’re not really basing your dislike of the armband on how it affects the aesthetics of the uniform, but on your own personal politics and feelings toward the individual being mourned.

So now, if someone says “I don’t like the orange shirts because of the graphic/message they have on them”, what does that have to do with the team’s uniform?

Interesting that Joe Torre was interviewed about wearing a uniform in the dugout when he himself rarely wears his official jersey. How can they retire his number when he never wears it? If I was in charge, I would mandate that all managers and coaches have to wear a jersey instead of those horrible looking “official” team wear. That goes for you too, Rick Peterson. Wear your jacket if you want, but a jersey better be on underneath!

Here’s an idea! Instead of retiring Torre’s number, MLB could just ceremoniously retire the managerial smock thus making it inappropriate for other managers to wear it!

Interesting that Joe Torre was interviewed about wearing a uniform in the dugout when he himself rarely wears his official jersey. How can they retire his number when he never wears it? If I was in charge, I would mandate that all managers and coaches have to wear a jersey instead of those horrible looking “official” team wear. That goes for you too, Rick Peterson. Wear your jacket if you want, but a jersey better be on underneath!

Here’s an idea! Instead of retiring Torre’s number, MLB could just ceremoniously retire the managerial smock thus making it inappropriate for other managers to wear it!

Great Idea!

Interesting that Joe Torre was interviewed about wearing a uniform in the dugout when he himself rarely wears his official jersey. How can they retire his number when he never wears it? If I was in charge, I would mandate that all managers and coaches have to wear a jersey instead of those horrible looking “official” team wear. That goes for you too, Rick Peterson. Wear your jacket if you want, but a jersey better be on underneath!

Here’s an idea! Instead of retiring Torre’s number, MLB could just ceremoniously retire the managerial smock thus making it inappropriate for other managers to wear it!

Great Idea!

Maybe it’s just me, but before this year, how often did Torre wear the smock? I almost feel like it was barely ever. This year it’s about 25%, like someone mentioned above. I guess he’s been talking to Terry Francona or John Gibbons too much!

I just watched Maria Sharapova’s match at Wimbledon. What the heck was she wearing? Her tennis outfit actually had wings on the back? I saw the swoosh, but I expected either a red bull or the Victoria’s Secret Angels wordmark.

If I find a picture, I’ll link it later.

An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well - us who Get It.

If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?

From MLB’s Official Rules of Baseball:

Rule 3.15
No person shall be allowed on the playing field during a game except players and coaches in uniform, managers, news photographers authorized by the home team, umpires, officers of the law in uniform and watchmen or other employees of the home club.

I know it was a rule back in the early days of baseball that the manager had to be in the team uniform, but I can not find a rule that specifically states this. If you read the rule I just stated, only the players and coaches are to be in full uniform, though to step onto the field, you have to be in full uniform. So, managers should be in full uniform to enter the field, but apparently they don’t have to have the jersey on as long as they have the pants?

Of course Connie Mack who managed the A’s from 1901 - 1950 never wore a uniform

Maybe it’s just me, but before this year, how often did Torre wear the smock?

I almost feel like it was barely ever.

This year it’s about 25%, like someone mentioned above.

I guess he’s been talking to Terry Francona or John Gibbons too much!

Gotta love the AL East… er, AL Smock division.

An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well - us who Get It.

If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?

The Orioles changed their logo since Camden Yards opened, but IIRC they still have the old logo on the seats.

I just watched Maria Sharapova’s match at Wimbledon. What the heck was she wearing? Her tennis outfit actually had wings on the back? I saw the swoosh, but I expected either a red bull or the Victoria’s Secret Angels wordmark.

If I find a picture, I’ll link it later.

Here is a pic not the greatest though

Maybe Manny should worry more about going 0-5 and allowing the Sox to get swept by the Mariners than he should about his hair???

Yeah, his weird hair really cost the team in 2004. And now, with the Sox having the best record in baseball since May 13th, seriously, he should adopt a more Jeter-like, buttoned up (to the throat–ecchhhh) appearance. Then he and the Sox may finally find success.

An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well - us who Get It.

If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the parts on the seats? Probably not. The question we have is, what processes do stadiums have to go through when teams redesign their identity? Has anyone had experience with this?

The Orioles changed their logo since Camden Yards opened, but IIRC they still have the old logo on the seats.

The scoreboard still has the old birds on top

An issue came up at work today that made me curious and I figured I’d ask the only other people that would think about it as well - us who Get It.

If any of you have been to Heinz Field in Pittsburgh, you know that it’s shared between the Steelers and Pitt Panthers. What’s embarrassing (as a Pitt grad), is the utter lack of mutual respect the stadium has for the ‘other occupants’. Pittsburgh is a heavy Steelers town and always will be, but could we at least not spell “Panthers” in the Steelers font? Also, each seat has the Steeler logo on one side and the Panthers logo on the other, which is fair, but now that Pitt has changed their logo, will they have to remold the