When someone close to a team dies, as Cardinals pitcher Josh Hancock did on Sunday, the memorial gestures usually come on several levels. First there’s the official team remembrance, which in this case is a “32″ sleeve patch that the Cards will be wearing for the rest of this season. Then there’s the now-obligatory display of the dead player’s jersey in his team’s dugout and bullpen. And then there are the personal memorials. Some players may inscribe the deceased’s number or initials onto their caps. Others may come up with a more unique marker, like Jason Simontacchi’s ankle band in memory of Darryl Kile.
But I’d never seen anything like what Tim Hudson did last night. In case you missed it, Hudson — who was Hancock’s teammate at Auburn back in 1997 — wore a big “JH” on his jersey. How big? Really fucking big. I hate to be a pill, but couldn’t he have worn a simple sleeve patch like the Cardinals did?
The most interesting thing about the XXXXL-sized letters is that Hudson clearly needed help in order to wear them. The team’s equipment manager and stitcher had to be in on the deal, and skipper Bobby Cox had to be okay with it too. Did the Commissioner’s office sign off on this too? None of the game recaps I’ve looked at have mentioned anything about that, but I’m wondering if this might be another example of Bud “Sure, Everyone Can Wear No. 42″ Selig loosening up for a change.
Uni Watch News Ticker: The WNBA will be unveiling a bunch of new uniforms today. … The Reds are going to retire Dave Concepcion’s No. 13. … Never thought I’d be saying this, but there’s an AF2 team with some killer striped socks: the Oklahoma City Yard Dawgz (with thanks to Jeff Rinker). … My recent breakdown of Star Trek uniforms prompted this communiqué from Uni Watch design director Scott M.X. Turner: “There was an episode of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine that featured a baseball game between the various species of the Federation and an annoyingly soulless Vulcan team. The Starfleet team was called the ‘Niners, after the space station they’re all assigned to. Actors Avery Brooks (Commander Sisko), Cirroc Lofton (Jake, his son) and Alexander Siddig (Dr. Bashir) all wore their stirrups the right way, as you can see by clicking through this gallery. The Vulcan team, the Locicians, had goofy caps but otherwise looked like the road Yankees.” … Yesterday’s note about how the low man on the bullpen totem pole usually has to carry the bag of snacks and provisions led to this note from Brian Hilemon: “The Padres had a longstanding rule that the guy with the least service time not only had to carry and stock the bag, but the bag itself was actually a really lame little girls’ backpack.” … Very odd: Late last week I put out the call for photos of bloody-stained uniforms, and then this happens. … Cheers to the Deftones, whose frontman knows a thing or two about striped socks (with thanks to Mike from Vienna). … I’m extremely happy to report that I bought a Mitsubishi Galant yesterday, and you know what color it was.
#1 by Brian Terreson on 05.01.07 9:04 am |
Good Morning!
Thats a great tribute to Mr. Hancock by the Cardinals with the patch, along with the jersey in the dugout.
#2 by Richard on 05.01.07 9:08 am |
Good luck with the green Galant, Paul.
You should take it cross-country on the Uni tour.
#3 by Jonathon on 05.01.07 9:08 am |
I think they mentioned on Baseball Tonight that Huddie had permission from the Commish’s office to wear Hancock’s initials on his jersey.
#4 by Chris f on 05.01.07 9:09 am |
Wow, you asked for a picture of a bloody jersey, and nobody sent you this-
Clint Malarchuck
Chris
#5 by Ed on 05.01.07 9:09 am |
Couldn’t they have found a nicer hanger for the jersey?
ed
#6 by Brandon on 05.01.07 9:12 am |
During the Cardinals game last night on ESPN they mentioned that Tim Hudson lost his grandmother and former college teammate Josh Hancock on Sunday. Not sure how to check this but maybe the “JH” had two meanings.
#7 by moten21 on 05.01.07 9:13 am |
Wow. I love the column, but a pill is just one word for it, Paul. Why do you care how a guy chooses to remember his friend, as long as it’s within reason?
#8 by C.N. on 05.01.07 9:15 am |
Yes, they did.
#9 by Rick on 05.01.07 9:17 am |
The Browns players have their numbers…. also, I found this pretty cool site on the history of nfl uniforms
#10 by Graf Zeppelin on 05.01.07 9:17 am |
I remember the baseball episode of DS9. The uniforms were actually pretty nice, but I would have preferred the Starfleet team wear red or black caps with the combadge logo embroidered on the front, rather than the much-too-busy embroidery they actually used.
The Vulcan “Logicians” cap logo is the Vulcan IDIC symbol (”Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations”), which originally appeared in the original series (I forget which episode) and was essentially designed to be sold commercially, launching the STAR TREK merchandising franchise. You can see the same symbol rendered in mosaic on the wall of Spock’s quarters in The Wrath of Khan.
Baseball was a common motif on the show, as Cmdr./Capt. Sisko was a huge baseball fan. In the pilot episode, he used baseball to explain the concept of linear time to the wormhole aliens. There were many references to him and Jake playing ball or watching classic games in the holosuites, and he kept a baseball on his office desk which he was often seen holding during meetings.
#11 by Monte on 05.01.07 9:18 am |
Yeah that is pretty ridiculous…he should be able to do whatever he wants, without question. I thought it looked good.
#12 by Shaun on 05.01.07 9:20 am |
Yeah, I read that Hudson was honoring his departed grandmother also. From ESPN-”Before every inning, he scribbled the letters VM in the dirt with his cleats.” It goes on later to explain those were her initials.
#13 by Tom on 05.01.07 9:20 am |
Judging from the look of the font, the “JH” on Hudson’s jersey appears to use the same letters as the Braves’ nameplates. Probably its a result of it being an hastily made and unofficial tribute.
#14 by Greg on 05.01.07 9:22 am |
In the Cubs picture, what was the 34 for? Woods isn’t dead. Maybe one of his many trips to the DL?
#15 by todd krevanchi on 05.01.07 9:24 am |
kerry wood died?
#16 by WVU Tom on 05.01.07 9:25 am |
???
I think that was the most mentioned incident.
In fact, that pic is linked in Paul’s Page 2 sidebar story.
#17 by Graf Zeppelin on 05.01.07 9:26 am |
I think that was for Kirby Puckett.
#18 by Scotty on 05.01.07 9:27 am |
Was the 34 on the Cubs picture for Kirby Puckett? I remember a few players on teams other than the Twins did this.
#19 by Paul Lukas on 05.01.07 9:27 am |
Correct.
#20 by Andrew on 05.01.07 9:27 am |
Kirby Puckett maybe?
#21 by Jonathon on 05.01.07 9:28 am |
Anyone else notice the Mets are on a black jersey kick right now? They wore them for all three games in Washington, and wore them last night against the Marlins in New York. And they were doing so well . . .
#22 by Leo on 05.01.07 9:29 am |
I can certainly understand what Hudson did.
Back in high school, a friend of mine, who was on our school’s tennis team had a brain anurysm and died in the middle of a match. Needless to say, when a 17-year old friend dies like that it’s a shock.
At that time I was the goalie on our lacrosse team and my way of honoring him was to wear these large wrist bands with his name on them. I did it all season long.
I think the just of what I’m trying to say is that I can see both sides of this argument. I can see Tim Hudson’s desire to wear JH so large and I can see Paul’s argument that the tribute was too much.
#23 by Timmer on 05.01.07 9:32 am |
Another reason why I like MLB more than the NFL. Remember when the league wouldn’t let Jake Plummer wear a small sticker on his helmet for one of his fallen teammates? (can’t remember who it was, but it was 2-3 years ago..) Yet Selig doesn’t have a problem with a huge tribute like Hudson showed last night. And that’s the way it should be. Bravo, MLB.
#24 by Mikey on 05.01.07 9:33 am |
I don’t see the big deal with this tribute to JH either.
#25 by Robert on 05.01.07 9:33 am |
Dave Concepcion’s No. 13 was already de facto retired because the Reds’ excellent equipment managers (Bernie Stowe and sons) refused to assign it to any players since Concepcion retired. I wonder how often this happens, and how many equipment managers wield that kind of power.
And yes, I am sure that if ARod or some other superstar was to join the Reds and demand No. 13, he would get it.
#26 by jesse on 05.01.07 9:35 am |
Is it just me or it there a radial arch going on with the new Steeler Throwback jerseys. You can see it better if click on the show larger boxes on the screen.
#27 by Graf Zeppelin on 05.01.07 9:36 am |
Chan Ho Park is terrible no matter what color jersey he wears. And we’re nearly at the point where the Mets wear their blue caps more often that David Wright gets a hit with runners on.
That said, the four straight games in black is disheartening…
#28 by Paul Lukas on 05.01.07 9:37 am |
To clarify: Culturally speaking, our society tends toward memorials that are low-key and dignified (unless you’re in New Orleans, in which case they throw a big party). Hudson’s massive “JH” struck me as neither of these. The effect borders on “look at me” territory, although I’m sure that wasn’t his intent. It’s just so damn big! Let’s put it this way: If I die tomorrow, I sincerely hope nobody will wear a giant “PL” like that.
I don’t mean to sound insensitive, and of course Hudson should be able to salute his friend however he chooses. I’m just assessing it from an aesthetic standpoint.
#29 by Chris on 05.01.07 9:39 am |
I also liked the JH. I think that Hudson’s tribute was what he wanted to do to honor Hancock and he probably didn’t care if it was aesthetically pleasing.
#30 by Tim on 05.01.07 9:40 am |
Here’s a 2006 picture of Cla Meredith hauling the girly backpack behind him.
#31 by Justin on 05.01.07 9:42 am |
The Red Sox also has a pink girlie backpack, I’m looking for a picture, but can’t find one yet.
#32 by Joe O. on 05.01.07 9:43 am |
It was for Pat Tillman…
I do also think the “JH” was a little big (ok…it was WAY big). It looks like a sponsor on an NFLE or soccer (futbol) in europe. But…I also think its alright that he chose to do it, and better that he wasn’t fined for it (No Fun League).
#33 by Joe O. on 05.01.07 9:46 am |
Semi-Uni related (and I haven’t seen it on this site yet) but UCF which dropped the “Golden” from their name has applied for some trademark logos. The new “possible” school logo (sure to show up on uni’s eventually) can be found here. Theres no color (but that’s been the norm for UCF logos in the past too…
#34 by Eric on 05.01.07 9:47 am |
I am quite sure that when Paul does go, no one will be able to see the tribute we should be wearing to honor Paul. After all who would see my stirrups if I am wearing slacks to work.
I think a donation to Philly Textile would be appropriate as well.
#35 by Ed on 05.01.07 9:48 am |
I don’t think the NFL is going to let an Offensive Tackle wear ‘1′…
ed
#36 by stuby on 05.01.07 9:49 am |
I wonder why it took the Reds so long to retire Concepcion’s number? He played for them for 19 seasons. Also, I thought they had retired Rose’s #14, but it wasn’t mentioned in that article.
I know the SF Giants don’t retire a number unless the player has been voted in to the HOF, which is strange logic. You are essentially letting the sportswriters decide if you should honor one of your own employees.
#37 by Justin on 05.01.07 9:49 am |
And yes, the Yankees haze their rookies too
#38 by Andy on 05.01.07 9:50 am |
Yeah, I’d say he didn’t think, “Boy, I’d like a huge JH on my jersey over my heart.” It was probably more along the lines of, “Hey, equipment manager, do you have a J and an H you can stitch into my hersey over my heart?”…and the equip mgr found a J and an H (normally used for nameplates) and went to work. Maybe equipment managers should keep a bunch of small letters lying around for occasions like this.
#39 by Justin on 05.01.07 9:50 am |
There was supposed to be a link with that last post… I’m sorry
http://images.google...
#40 by Justin on 05.01.07 9:53 am |
You can see a picture of Jonathan Papelbon wearing the pink back here
#41 by Broker75 on 05.01.07 9:55 am |
as for yesterdays (weird) conversation about cheesesteaks, I went out for din-din last night and saw Prime Rib Cheesesteak on the menu; I was like pardon me??? So I ordered it, it definitely was not prime rib, it basically was the cold cuts roast beef you buy at the local supermarket.
->the funny thing is I specifically asked the (hot) waitress “is it real prime rib? or just the stuff you find in the deli”?..’oh no’ she said, ‘it’s prime rib’-yah, whatever honey. But it came with a side of gravy and fries, which kicked ass…and three glasses of vino.mmm
#42 by Mikey on 05.01.07 9:57 am |
That was posted here on April 16th, the date of that article. Sorry.
#43 by todd krevanchi on 05.01.07 9:58 am |
as far as tribute patches, sticker, etc.
i suggest league wide protocol be that whomever would like to memorialize the deceased, no matter which team or league they play on or in, should be allowed to, within reason. by doing it the same way that the primary team who is memorializing the fallen person.
in this case, hudson and any other player should be allowed to place the identical patch worn by cardinals on his uniforms. those wanting to memorialize cory lidle, would wear a single mourning band, identical to the yankees, and so on.
this would then pose the question of, “then what happens if someone wants to memorialize everyone?”. i would say no greater than 2 patches per sleeve which includes any current organizational tributes, anniversary patches or (in the case of the phillies) numbers.
small tasteful patches like the 32 by the cardinals, wouldnt look too cumbersome if placed correctly (piggy backed, not side by side) with another patch on a sleeve.
#44 by Mikey on 05.01.07 9:58 am |
He probably didn’t decide on a jersey number yet, since he was too busy fishing…….
#45 by Paul P. on 05.01.07 10:00 am |
Here is a better photo of Papelbon with the back pack on
http://jonathanpapel...
I remember them having the rookies dress up in skirts too last year. Will try adn find a photo.
#46 by Natron on 05.01.07 10:01 am |
Just to add-on to the bit about the bullpen bag… the Twins also make the rookie bring the bag out, and it’s also ridiculous. In making my annual trip to KC, I snapped this pic of Glen Perkins carrying a Spongebob dufflebag to the pen. Last year, I got this one of Pat Neshek Carrying the Barbie backpack (you can clearly see it’s pink, but can’t clearly see that it’s Barbie, but it is).
And how about this handsome devil in a good lookin’ jersey?!
#47 by Joe on 05.01.07 10:05 am |
That’s exactly it…the JH are the same letters used on the back of the jerseys, so I’m sure that’s all they had. Now from my point of view, it you’re going to be a MLB equipment manager, you should be crafty enough with twill and a pair of scissors to make a sweet smaller memorial patch, or at least know that you can run over to Michael’s or Jo-Ann Fabrics and pick up applique 2 inch letters for $1.50 that will do the job for 1 game.
#48 by Paul P. on 05.01.07 10:06 am |
Here are the Sox rookies of 2 years ago in drag
http://cache.boston....
On the far left is Papelbon, then the next one is Manny Delcarmen, currently in Pawtucket in AAA… not sure the other guys names
#49 by ditchfarmer on 05.01.07 10:10 am |
Sometimes there are things more imporatant than looking good. With everything that Hudson had to deal with this week, two phone calls, pitching (and winning), and two funerals, maybe you should cut him a little slack. I think it was very weak and inappropriate to comment.
“But it was also about Tim Hudson and his grandmother’s initials and Josh Hancock’s initials. It was about a man taking his grief and turning it into a way to honor the passing of those he cared about. It won’t show up in the standings, but what Tim Hudson did Monday night was demonstrate the inspirational possibilities of the human heart.” Mlb.com
#50 by stuby on 05.01.07 10:10 am |
I think Joe Thomas and Joe Staley are the same guy.
#51 by todd krevanchi on 05.01.07 10:12 am |
hey, (more specifically anthony verna)
can anyone tell me exactly what the university of wyoming has trademarked in the realm of logos? if not, how would i be able to find that?
also, just thinking. we have a pretty nice community of people here, and i think we can all say that we are somewhat online friends. over the course of the last year, people have posted where they live and what they do…
i was wondering just the other day if there would be a way to start a uniwatch community online roladex. does anyone think this would be a benefit? if someone in my region has a job that provided a service, id be more in line to use or refer someone who Gets Itâ„¢, or at least has similar interests as i do. if anything, its a way to increase your business contacts.
any support?
#52 by stuby on 05.01.07 10:14 am |
(shaking my head)…Boof Bonser, Francisco Liriano AND Joe Nathan for AJ Pierzynski. How does Brian Sabean of the Giants still have a job?
#53 by Kenny on 05.01.07 10:15 am |
Someone in Cleveland better make a poster with the best nickname for a guy who hasn’t even played yet. “The Fisherman”, all I know is that’s how I’m gonna refer to him from now on.
#54 by Matt B on 05.01.07 10:18 am |
I for one second PL’s thoughts about Hudson’s JH patch. I’ll even go further (yes, I’ve been called worse than a pill) and suggest that the entire Athletes Mourning thing is overdone — it looks to me like the players/teams/etc are exclaiming “Look over here, we’re mourning too! Don’t forget about us!” I realize that people aren’t robots and we all have our own ways of grieving, but these guys are professionals, too. That means they have to adjust when they step onto the playing field. Some things should be left in the clubhouse, IMHO.
FWIW, I think Manning had it right when Johnny U died and he tried to celebrate the man’s life by wearing black cleats a la Unitas.
#55 by Robert on 05.01.07 10:20 am |
The Mets’ and Reds’ white hats from the 1990s were recently addressed here. Well, white baseball caps have not disappeared altogether, as evidenced by this recent University of Nebraska baseball game.
http://i62.photobuck...
#56 by Robert on 05.01.07 10:21 am |
Oops, I forgot to mention that prior to this season, Nebraska wore some nifty striped socks as well. I was sad to see them go.
#57 by Minna H. on 05.01.07 10:22 am |
todd k., I agree with your points here. I also thought the JH was way too big. Then again, Hudson still doesn’t look right in an Atlanta uniform (too used to him as an A).
Natron! Nice back. Which game was that? And thank you for mentioning the sidewinder. I love him.
As for whether it’s insensitive, in bad taste, etc., to mention the huge lettering of the JH, I don’t think it is. It’s not as if Paul is saying anything bad about Hudson or Hancock. He is simply commenting on the size (too huge) of the lettering. If he hadn’t, someone else (like me) would have.
#58 by My Name is Not Earl on 05.01.07 10:22 am |
#14 is not retired by the Reds, though my guess is that nobody would want it—both out of respect for the legacy and to avoid the infamy.
How long before the Reds retire #11 for Barry Larkin? That number seems a done deal. I would also retire #44 for Eric Davis, but they may not (since he likely isn’t going to the Hall, while Larkin will probably get there eventually).
#59 by patrick on 05.01.07 10:23 am |
From Scoop Jackson’s article on AI
He walked into Room 3 on the ground level of the Pepsi Center on Saturday night with his new Yankees black bottom-brim New Era cap resting on top of the white doo-rag that was keeping his character-defining cornrows F.T.D. (fresh to death).
#60 by Minna H. on 05.01.07 10:24 am |
Hahahahahaha! Even with Liriano down for the count, the Giants wuz robbed!
Didn’t Manning get fined for his tribute to JU or told to desist?
#61 by Gavin on 05.01.07 10:29 am |
Yeah, those Oklahoma City Yard Dawgz uniforms are pretty much exactly the same as the Chicago Bears’, with red replacing orange and black replacing blue.
#62 by Matt B on 05.01.07 10:32 am |
>Didn’t Manning get fined for his tribute to JU or told to desist?
He was threatened with a $25k fine and didn’t do it. Someone on the Ravens did change his cleats, but was only hit with a $5k fine. So sez wikipedia…
#63 by scott on 05.01.07 10:33 am |
Their is a big time bond that is formed between college teammates. The JH on Hudson’s jersey was his tribute to his former teammate and it looked good. Actually, Hudson wears his jersey nice and tight the way it should be. All he has to do now is pull up the pant legs.
Hey, Paul, in reference to you calling readers out on their comments that you don’t want to see anymore.
I have a request for you to quit using f-bombs. Please try to be a little more creative in your wording. Thanks!
#64 by Anthony Verna on 05.01.07 10:34 am |
10:30 AM and already 61 postings!
Minna, I believe that Manning was not allowed to wear black sneakers and did not. I believe that was reserved to Baltimore. (A silly ruling, if you ask me.)
Todd, send me an e-mail at my personal address: anthony@anthonyverna... (since this isn’t legal work) and I’ll get you some info.
#65 by Ben N on 05.01.07 10:35 am |
I highly doubt Joe Thomas will be wearing #1 at tackle this year
#66 by neal s on 05.01.07 10:36 am |
Correct you are — and what a fantastically cool detail that is. Nice catch.
#67 by Robert on 05.01.07 10:37 am |
This scan probably sucks, but it shows the Cornhuskers baseball team in former striped sock glory.
http://i62.photobuck...
If they would wear those socks with the white hats, I would be in heaven.
#68 by Joe Drennan on 05.01.07 10:38 am |
I found some great striped stirups on my high school alma matter’s site. Check them out.
#69 by Jason on 05.01.07 10:40 am |
I was trying to put together a bit on which NFL draftees made the biggest uniform upgrades and downgrades from their college to pro unis. Unfortuantely I gave up pretty quickly after realizing that just about everyone moving from college to the pros is making a pretty big downgrade. Even the three drafted Oregon players went to Seattle, Carolina and Cincinnati. Not serious upgrades IMO. For what it’s worth, I think Adrian Peterson had the most serious downgrade. Oklahoma to the Vikings? Ouch!
#70 by Robert on 05.01.07 10:41 am |
Larkin is an automatic, while Eric Davis . . . I’m not sure. Probably not, since another guy who had some great years for the Reds, George Foster, has not been so honored.
As for timing, the Reds are seemingly never in a hurry to retire numbers. It might take another few years for Larkin to get nod.
#71 by Broker75 on 05.01.07 10:41 am |
Why is it that Tim Hudson pays tribute to an old college buddy who tragically dies and gets shit on by Paul and a few other people, but everybody praised the out of control Jackie Robinson thing?
There was absolutely nothing wrong with what Tim Hudson did, there is a lot of negativity in here.
#72 by neal s on 05.01.07 10:42 am |
On further reflection, though, two things occur to me: those jerseys haven’t been manufactured yet, so the pictures on the site are just digital mockups. There’s a chance that the actual production models will go the easy route.
Also, we both confused vertical and radial. The pictures show radial arching, what we like and hope for is vertical arching. Easy mistake to make.
#73 by neal s on 05.01.07 10:45 am |
The pictures show radial arching
Ack. My bad again. We like the vertical, the pictures show vertical, there’s a chance it won’t be vertical.
Sorry.
#74 by Joe on 05.01.07 10:45 am |
This drives me crazy…we have discussed the difference between radial and vertical a 1000 times!
I am not convinced that the jerseys have any arch to them, even though the long surnames appear to be VERTICALLY arched. Look at this, there is no arch. I think we are just seeing the contour of the hanging shirt making it appear arched.
#75 by Paul P. on 05.01.07 10:45 am |
Todd, I think it’s a great idea. You’re right, it’s become a community of online friends, and I know I’d probably us the online rolodex if it were available. Would also help us get some uniwatch get togethers in line, even if Mr. Lukas is not going to be there.
I guess I should say, thanks Paul for keeping us entertained and creating such a vast community in such a short amount of time. Keep up the great work!
#76 by Kevin from Ohio in Virginia on 05.01.07 10:51 am |
All this talk of rookie hazing reminds me of the uni-centric rookie hazing that saved Indians pitcher Kyle Denney’s life.
#77 by Perry on 05.01.07 10:51 am |
The Reds are a little weird about retiring numbers. They didn’t retire Frank Robinson’s, Sparky Anderson’s, or Joe Morgan’s until relatively recently, and only after plenty of lesser lights had worn them, I guess because all of them spent large chunks of their careers elsewhere. They sitll haven’t retired Rose’s, presumably because he might not be permitted on the field for the ceremony.
#78 by neal s on 05.01.07 10:52 am |
Calm down there, Joe. I already corrected my mistake before you posted.
#79 by Marty Met on 05.01.07 10:55 am |
I’m sure the sticher just used a J & H from the usual player name letters.
#80 by Mr. Met on 05.01.07 11:04 am |
On the subject of the Peyton Manning Unitas tribute, didn’t the Colts wind up switching to black cleats the following year?
They (speaking of the Colts) would have close to a perfect uniform if they would go back to their striped socks.
#81 by jesse on 05.01.07 11:04 am |
Your link is to a replica jersey, not the authentic one. The authentic ones are arched. Yea, and calm down.
#82 by Mr. Met on 05.01.07 11:06 am |
No, but his career has pretty much bitten the big one…
#83 by jesse on 05.01.07 11:07 am |
Also, you can check the link to the authentic Ward jersey from my original post, his name is vertically arched. It think the fact that the replica jerseys are not arched while the authentic ones are seems to indicate that the real jerseys will in fact be arched, which I think is kind of neat detail.
#84 by Joe on 05.01.07 11:13 am |
Sorry bout that guys…just frustrating when it’s a concept concepts Paul has addressed a whole bunch…
Anyway, I’m not sure that a vertically arched football nameplate would look good or not??? I’d have to see it on the field. Off the top of my head I can’t think of any team that has used it before??
#85 by John E on 05.01.07 11:16 am |
A’s rookie hazing from a year or two ago.
Note Nick Swisher and Joe Blanton dressed as matching plug and socket. Overtones? Nah, not much.
Huston Street
Freddie Bynum, Nick Swisher and Dan Johnson
Joe Blanton
Keiichi Yabu and Ron Flores
#86 by John E on 05.01.07 11:16 am |
Fixed - Huston Street
#87 by Mark in Shiga on 05.01.07 11:22 am |
But does arched lettering really look good in football, where the shoulder pads create a level surface for the letters? Arched letters only look good if the player’s shoulders actually have an arch in them.
Also — completely unrelated — has anyone noticed that Majestic has stopped writing their full name (embroidered in for the ones worn by actual players) on the baseball jerseys they make, using a simple mountain-like “M” logo, as in the Cubs jerseys shown above?
I really like this change — if there are going to be manufacturer or (god forbid) advertising marks on jerseys, they should consist of only symbols and not words. Words detract from the team name, which is what really matters.
#88 by Robert on 05.01.07 11:23 am |
Is that a Black Label Society tattoo on Swisher (I am assuming that Swisher in the guy in the middle)?
#89 by Teebz on 05.01.07 11:27 am |
Broker, you missed the point entirely. The tribute isn’t the issue. It was a size issue… as if Hudson was using his jersey to be a billboard. “I hate to be a pill, but couldn’t he have worn a simple sleeve patch like the Cardinals did” says it all: a small JH on the sleeve would have sufficed.
I’m all for honouring teammates and family members, but the JH covered his entire left shoulder. Hockey players don’t wear the captain’s “C” or alternate captain’s “A” that big.
#90 by Joe on 05.01.07 11:28 am |
There is nothing worse than a replica that is blatantly different than and authentic! The point of a replica to to replicate as closely as possible the real thing using more affordable methods.
#91 by Minna H. on 05.01.07 11:29 am |
Along with poor Mark Prior’s.
I think Manning should have manned up, wore the cleats and paid the fine. It’s not like he couldn’t afford it.
I like the idea of a Rolodex o’ Uni-Watchers world-wide. todd k., I’m assuming you’ll be in charge of it?
#92 by todd krevanchi on 05.01.07 11:34 am |
im gonna chime in on the JH on hudson, then (ill try to) shut up about it.
i cant speak for paul, but my interpretation of his entry today WAS:
a. tim hudson wore a tribute patch(es) on his uniform.
b. pretty unique in that it was on the chest of his jersey.
c. it was large.
im sure that if any team or player would have done something similar in size and location, for any reason (tribute, anniversary, championship, et al) it would have been written about and criticized, if not by PL then by one of the readers.
i cant speak for paul, but my interpretation of his entry WAS NOT:
a. damn you tim hudson for having feelings for a loved one.
b. how could you even think of wanting to to pay tribute to a former roommate.
c. if those were the only size letters you could find, you should have passed.
patch on guys uni–its big, real big–fodder for my blog.
thats it.
#93 by Joe on 05.01.07 11:34 am |
If you had them side by side you would see that a majority of “C’s” and “A’s” are either the same height or larger.
The “JH’s” measure just over 3 inches (if in fact they are the same letters as used on the names), and the average “C” or “A” measures just under 4 inches…usually because they have multiple outline colors.
#94 by joe on 05.01.07 11:34 am |
Becuase that was beyond reason, it looked like crap.
#95 by BCrisp on 05.01.07 11:35 am |
I’ve wondered this before: Those of us who read this site and submit uniform banter, what do we call ourselves? Are we “Uni Watchers”, “Those Who Get It”, “Paul’s People”, “Lukas’s Legion”? Surely there are more creative people on here than me who can think up a name for ourselves.
#96 by Broker75 on 05.01.07 11:38 am |
We are talking about a death here, who cares what you look like, or what you do to pay your respects, speaking of missing the point; “Hockey players don’t wear the captain’s “C†or alternate captain’s “A†that big”.-> has nothing to do with this subject.
#97 by todd krevanchi on 05.01.07 11:39 am |
thats why paul got an intern right?
#98 by Minna H. on 05.01.07 11:41 am |
Very well asid, Teebz. I am not dissing Hudson for his tribute; I am just saying the letters could be read by a pilot of a blimp fliyng overhead. As other people speculated, it was probably a time issue–getting it done quickly, but there had to be a way to make it smaller.
I have to admit, when I saw the pic of the jerseys in the dugout and the bullpen, I thought it was a bit much, but from a humanistic view. It must be hard enouh to play the game as is; having to stare at the jersey would make it that much harder, I think.
#99 by Mr. Met on 05.01.07 11:43 am |
“Uni Watchers” pretty much says it all. Concise and to the point.
#100 by Amy on 05.01.07 11:46 am |
Yeah I think we should just leave it at Uni Watchers and not try to make ourselves sound like some weird cult…
#101 by Teebz on 05.01.07 11:49 am |
If we’re talking death here, why not just wear the JH’s jersey instead of wearing a gigantic JH?
If they are 3 inches large, they are 3 inches too big to be on the shoulder.
#102 by Mr. Met on 05.01.07 11:50 am |
Ironically enough, someone made that accusation the other day, during a discussion of stirrups and whatnot, that the people on this website were becoming a Cult of Paul and agreeing with everything he said.
#103 by Broker75 on&nbs