Every week or so, like clockwork, someone e-mails to ask me where they can find striped stirrups for their softball team. Or vest jerseys for their kid’s Little League team. Or caps with some sort of special embroidery. I happen to know where to find all of the above, and plenty more, but it usually means sending people to a variety of specialty suppliers.
From now on, though, I’ll probably just point people toward a site brought to my attention by reader Matt Ciccone: Essesco.com. The site itself doesn’t look like much, but start clicking around and you’ll find that they’ve basically created a compilation of athletic apparel catalogs, and it looks like they’ve got just about everything covered. You want baseball or softball unis? They’ve got a ton of options, including uniforms made by Rawlings, Reebok, Majestic, and a bunch of lesser-known brands. You want belts and stirrups? You want jackets and windbreakers? Trophies and ribbons? It’s all here.
And it’s not just baseball — they’ve also got football, basketball, hockey, soccer, volleyball, track, and swimming uniforms, plus warm-up suits, cheerleading outfits, and a lot more. The site’s interface leaves a lot to be desired (they need a designer, like, yesterday), but if you’re looking to outfit a team, they’ve probably got what you’re looking for — or even what you didn’t realize you were looking for.
Numerology Update: Big, big thanks to everyone who helped out with the “Who wore what number for what reason?” project. Thanks to your efforts, we now have a complete roster from 0 to 99 (including a few bonus numbers you might not have thought of). I literally couldn’t have done it without you, people — thanks a heap.
The full numerical rundown will form the basis of my next ESPN column, which should run tomorrow.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Speaking of buying uniforms and such, reader Alan Kreit recently got a pair of stirrups for his Little Leaguer son, Ethan (he says he bought them here). Unfortunately, Ethan wore his pants a bit lower for his actual game, but he still looked better than his teammates. … Wanna see something really weird? Check out the Mizuno-ized versions of MLB jerseys shown here and here (with thanks to Dwayne White). … Reprinted from yesterday’s comments: Mariano Rivera has a Bible verse called out on his glove (with thanks to Jeff Spry for the screen shot). … Also from yesterday: Wondering why the White Sox wear black socks? You’re not alone. … More trademark litigation silliness (with thanks to Seth Horowitz). … Pretty cool Boston Marathon attire — especially if you’re gonna get married (further details here, with thanks to Uni Watch intern Vince Grzegorek). … Northeastern State has unveiled a new logo.
#1 by Ted on 04.25.07 7:52 am |
Ditch the black! Ditch the Purple!
#2 by Robert on 04.25.07 8:09 am |
Those Mizuno-ized logos are freaking me out. Is there a big market in Japan for that kind of thing?
Many of the examples are instantly recognizable as being derivative of a Major League logo, while with others the relationship is not so apparent. The Reds/Mizuno logo, for example, looks very generic.
#3 by Matt B on 04.25.07 8:09 am |
Someone a couple days back called the Brewers alternates the best around…I guess the Crew are playing well in them, possibly at the expense of the ‘82 throwback getup.
http://www.jsonline....
#4 by Vincent A. Cipollone on 04.25.07 8:20 am |
Those Mizuno things must be logo creep in the first degree, but at least they know how to make a Mets logo without any black.
#5 by stuby on 04.25.07 8:32 am |
Wow, that site would have come in handy when I had to order the company softball unis last year.
#6 by J at The Dundies on 04.25.07 8:38 am |
Weird. I don’t like the Olde English M. I’ll take my D.
#7 by Big O on 04.25.07 8:56 am |
Vincent A. Cipollone said:
Is any else having a problem seeing the mizuno stuff
#8 by scott on 04.25.07 9:21 am |
Someone a couple days back called the Brewers alternates the best around…I guess the Crew are playing well in them, possibly at the expense of the ‘82 throwback getup.
http://www.jsonline&....
How do teams like the Yankees, Dodgers and Giants break out of slumps if they don’t have an alternate jersey to wear? :) I know baseball players are superstitious, but it still seems silly to start making what is supposed to be an alternate jersey the regular attire. At least the NFL gets it right by limiting use of the alternate jersey… it’s too bad baseball doesn’t come up with a similar policy.
#9 by El Rey on 04.25.07 9:35 am |
I thought the Giants did have alternate jerseys.
#10 by Joe on 04.25.07 9:35 am |
I never got to play little league on and filed 1/16 as nice as the one Ethan was playing on? I didn’t see one piece of broken glass or a bare dirt spot at all!
And I never played on a field with a fence until I was in High School! Man Ethan, you have it good!
#11 by El Rey on 04.25.07 9:43 am |
My bad, these are the Giants alternate jerseys.
#12 by Rene on 04.25.07 9:45 am |
Paul: heres a number for you- back in the mid to late 90’s Ivan Zamorano (Chilean soccer player) was transfered over to Italy to play with Inter Milan. He wanted #9 but that was already taken by Ronaldo, Ivan was under contract with a sponsor (guess who) and I believe was required to wear the number 9, per his contract with them, so Ivan and Inter came up with the idea of having him wear the number 1+8 on his jersey, yep that was 1+8 because when added it truly is 9 (18 is 18, the little + was really stitched in between the 1 and 8)
#13 by AVP on 04.25.07 9:46 am |
Anyone else see the white GT batting helmets last night at the GT/UGA game at Turner Field. Never seen anything like that…anyone have a pic?
#14 by El Rey on 04.25.07 9:48 am |
Here’s a pic of Ivan Zamorano.
#15 by Joe on 04.25.07 9:48 am |
El Rey said:
I thought this was it? hehe
#16 by Andy (#11) on 04.25.07 9:57 am |
Northeastern State has unveiled a new logo.
Something about that bird doesn’t look right. No way that head and those wings could be the same bird, or else the bird has a seriously long and contorted neck. Maybe it’s just supposed to be a bird’s head, with some wings behind it, but not necessarily its wings.
It looks good if you just glance at it, but the more you look at it, the more you realize that it looks like a bird head is propped up in front of a headless set of wings.
I’m guessing they did it like that so that the wings and the head would both be centered over the name, and so that they could have the bird looking to the right.
#17 by Hank on 04.25.07 9:57 am |
Kudos to Alan Kreit. Now that is fine parenting. Teach ‘em the right way when they’re young.
#18 by todd krevanchi on 04.25.07 9:58 am |
Robert said:
me too. im still trying to figure out why those “logos” were even developed. probably a mizuno intern with graphic design experience who wanted to stick out put them together…
Matt B said:
in reading that article it stated that the bucks may take brandan wright with their pick. which would be somewhat interesting.
in 2006 the bucks chose david noel, #34 from UNC
in 2007 they could potentially choose, brandan wright, #34 from UNC
2 consecutive years of drafting a player from the same college, who wore the same number… i cant see that its ever happened before…
#19 by Al on 04.25.07 9:58 am |
The Bible verse on Mo Rivera’s glove is very popular. For the unknowing, it is (paraphrased) “I can do all things through God, who strengthens me.” I have auto’d cards from Bryce Paup to David Segui that use that inscription. I was an umpire for 15 years, and always inscribed it under my cap. My number for all sports has always been 44, 4 for the 4, 1-3 for the 13th verse.
#20 by Brian from Ohio on 04.25.07 9:59 am |
So, I haven’t really followed the NBA closely since Jerry Krause destroyed my beloved Bulls, but I was watching the Bulls-Heat gmae night, and a question occurred to me. Has adidas really sanitized all the team warm-ups to be identical, except for color and team name on the front? Did they really get rid of these and the even better white version, as well as countless other great team-specific warm-ups?
#21 by Bryan on 04.25.07 10:01 am |
If you go the the Northeastern website and poke around, you’ll see that not only is the logo new, but the name is, too. They use to be the Redmen and the Lady Reds. Weird thing is that the color is not new–they went by Redmen and Lady Reds while wearing green.
#22 by Bryan on 04.25.07 10:02 am |
I meant Northeastern State, but you knew that.
#23 by Yoke on 04.25.07 10:04 am |
If somebody has video or pictures of the starting pitcher for the Indians last night, he had some white deal on the black underbill of his hat. I could never get a good look at it.
#24 by Al on 04.25.07 10:12 am |
Crap, I meant to say 4 for the CHAPTER and 1+3 is the verse so I used 44.
#25 by Paul Lukas on 04.25.07 10:15 am |
AVP said:
Several people have mentioned this to me, but nobody has a photo, and I can’t find one. Anyone..?
#26 by Joey Guns on 04.25.07 10:16 am |
I’m very shocked that the SF Giants rally cap giveaway day came and went on 4/20, and no one mentioned it.
Well, there are a few currently on Ebay…….
http://cgi.ebay.com/...
#27 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 10:20 am |
I love that “Tim Hudson sees something weird” commercial. Good way to start the day. I think it would be uncomfortable to wear that bride’s outfit for running, and the fake tux looks silly.
For all those yesterday who contributed to the discussion about the Minnesota North Stars and the Minneapolis Lakers, I re-post my comment from late last night:
Ok. I just got back from a club and read through allllllll the comments I had skipped earlier when posting.
You guys are KILLING me!!!!! Extensive talk about the North Stars and the Minneapolis Lakers?????? What a way to harsh my high. Wrath of Khan? It has NOTHING on the wrath of a Minnesotan fan scorned. I am going to have to post this again tomorrow to truly convey my angst.
I spotted a North Star shirt at the club tonight, which was bad enough. Now I gotta read this???? I also spotted a Yankees cap and was about to whap the guy–but at least it was a classic cap.
On the beer front: I asked for a Belgian beer. I got a Blue Moon. It was ok for the first three sips, then it started to taste like aspirin. I only have one drink a night, so my quest to find a beer will take a while–unless I give it up totally.
Harumph. I’m going to bed. Mad.
Thanks, MetsfanAZ for having my back. Or were you just trying to incite the crowd?
#28 by Broker75 on 04.25.07 10:21 am |
Randy Messenger of the Marlins was wearing his beak without an arch last night vs the Braves, no pics of him on the field but you can see it a bit in the link.
#29 by Matt B on 04.25.07 10:28 am |
Re Ivan Zamorano:
When Becks moved from ManYoo to Real, he had to ditch #7 (worn by Raul) and Real wouldn’t let him do something similar, so he took 23, claiming to be a Jordan fan. Yeah, right.
#30 by Paul Lukas on 04.25.07 10:35 am |
Someone just sent me photos of the Ga.Tech batting helmets, and holy shit are they something to see. Not gonna share them just yet — instead, I’ll make them the lead item for tomorrow. (If anyone else has pics, feel free to forward them to me, but please don’t post them in the comments — let’s save the full impact for tomorrow.)
#31 by Broker75 on 04.25.07 10:37 am |
Another thing I noticed during the Marlins-Braves game Rick Vanden Hurk (56) last name looks like two names on his jersey.
The only name I remember with ‘Van’ in it that looked ok was Van Slyke.
#32 by Alan on 04.25.07 10:39 am |
Hank said:
Thanks….but try telling that to my wife.
#33 by Anthony Verna on 04.25.07 10:41 am |
I feel the Wrath of Minna.
#34 by Welch on 04.25.07 10:43 am |
I’m sorry if i missed this before but does anyone have a pic of the DC United jersey they are wearing as the VT tribute?
#35 by Robert on 04.25.07 10:48 am |
Didn’t medics in some war movie wear white helmets with a Red Cross logo on the front? They might provide an interesting comparison to the GT helmets.
Here is an example: http://www.german-he...
#36 by Paul Lukas on 04.25.07 11:00 am |
Here’s a sneak peek for you comments section regulars: My ESPN column tomorrow will have a new Uni Watch logo — look here.
The original idea was to come up with something that looked like a clothing tag, to connect with uniforms, clothing, etc., but then it somehow morphed into a pennant (there were a lot of corporate cooks involved in this stew, unfortunately). I don’t like it as much as the logo we use here on the blog, but I like it a LOT more than the jersey logo they’d been using for nearly three years. And they added the “Obsessive Study…” tag line, which I’m quite happy about.
Not perfect, but definitely an improvement.
#37 by Billy on 04.25.07 11:08 am |
That “W” in the logo looks an awful lot like the Nats curly “W” cap.
#38 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 11:14 am |
Hey Paul, in response to one of my questions, you answered the other day that the Mets were the only MLB team that had a different batting helmet paired with their caps (that blue-fading-into-black Cool-Flo model paired with the black/blue caps), but watching todays Mets – Rockies game, the Rockies also use a batting helmet that dosn’t match their cap. Their cap is black with a purple brim; their helmet (also a Cool Flo model) is purple-fading-into-black, with a purple and gold logo……
http://espn-i.starwa...
http://espn-i.starwa...
#39 by Anthony Verna on 04.25.07 11:15 am |
I’m going to defend the trademark lawyers in the little issue mentioned in today’s entry. (I know that everyone is shocked and surprised by that, considering I practice trademark and copyright law.)
TM law’s goal is to have marks that identify the source of the goods and services and to show the quality of those goods or services. One example is McDonald’s vs. Burger King. If you care about fast food, you know the differences between the food both companies serve.
TM law has no provisions for parody (when money is being made from that parody), so if someone takes a mark that is owned and changes it to mock it and then sells it, there is an action for trademark infringement and dilution.
Would you see Best Buy selling anti-Circuit City t-shirts? Or K Mart seeling anti-WalMart t-shirts? No – because that would be one company making money from another company’s mark. We see sports as more free – which is understandable – but it’s analagous – one company (though here it’s a school) mocking the mark of another company.
#40 by sully on 04.25.07 11:19 am |
I saw the white helmets that Tech was wearing last night, and as a Tech alum I am MORTIFIED. Embarassing to say the least.
#41 by Mark in Shiga on 04.25.07 11:20 am |
Paul, love the new logo! The colors are good, too. I like the current green but I’d rather see a two-color logo than three.
BTW, those Mizuno logos need a little explanation. They don’t actually make uniforms with the word “Mizuno” printed on them — rather, they’re templates for people to create their own teams’ logos in the style of the major leagues. Since using actual MLB and NPB team names would be copyright infringement, and since fonts and lettering styles are not copyrightable, the manufacturer will create a generic logo featuring their own name in the style of another team.
My team, for example, has Cubs-style uniforms but is called the Canards, so we have the big C with the “ANARDS” part inside it, just like the Cubs do. Arranging this was a simple matter of indicating product number “MLB-NL-3″ (or whatever) to the jersey maker; saving us the hassle of specifying white shirts, blue pinstripes, blue numbers, red borders, blue cap, red C, white border, shirt logo like so, etc., etc., thouhg teams are of course free to change any and all of those details.
Most of the uniform makers in Japan do this, including Nike (who uses “JUSTDOIT” for some of the team names), Adidas, Descente, and Zett. The “McAuliffe” Red Sox font is undergoing a serious revival these days, as are the striped stirrup socks that the Red Sox technically don’t wear anymore!
#42 by Metsfan AZ on 04.25.07 11:22 am |
Minna H. said:
I was trying to stop them. I know how you feel about those teams leaving the TC and not having the courtesy to change names, especially area specific names. You’re on your own when it comes to all black unis but I’m right behind you on this one.
#43 by Teebz on 04.25.07 11:23 am |
Minna, I’ll step up because I offered the North Stars explanation.
Sometimes, you have to give to get. Personally, the North Stars were run by a terrible man with a brutal track record in Norman Green.
Now, the fine people of the Twin Cities can enjoy excellent hockey by the Wild, and not worry about the team ever moving.
Losing the North Stars hurt, but getting a team back who is more competitive in a much better Western Conference would be better, I’d say. Yes, they don’t wear the awesome North Stars colours, but they do have a cool red jersey.
The people of Quebec City have just as much right to complain. The people of Winnipeg are still laughing over the Mess in the Desert (TM). The Coyotes are just as bad as the Jets were, but cost twice as much.
I apologize for opening the old wounds, but I’d take the Wild every day of the week and twice on Sundays over the North Stars. Especially in that gorgeous new arena.
#44 by Richard on 04.25.07 11:25 am |
New logo for ESPN column – UPGRADE.
Looks good. Hope it’s a continual evolution into the tag look, but it’s a process. For now, looks good, and major upgrade over what they’ve got up now.
#45 by jesse on 04.25.07 11:28 am |
Anthony Verna said:
I think you are correct in your assertion that the the Texas A&M t-shirts are actionable. However, those shirts have been around for years, and the folks at UT only decided to sue after they lost the football game. It reeks of sour grapes, which I understand is not a defense to copyright infringement, but at least they are calling it what it is.
#46 by Tom on 04.25.07 11:30 am |
Old man Moyer was sporting his stirrups last night.
#47 by Tom on 04.25.07 11:31 am |
Sorry, here’s the Moyer link.
http://www.daylife.c...
#48 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 11:34 am |
Joey Guns said:
How appropriate that they gave those caps away on 4/20, because the only thing those monstrosities are good for is lighting ‘em up……
#49 by Seth H on 04.25.07 11:35 am |
Isn’t the pennant streaming the wrong direction?
(Sorry. Couldn’t resist.)
#50 by Korch on 04.25.07 11:38 am |
Here’s a clue that Gary Sheffield’s shoes are his own signature model (end of blog link):
http://blogs.nypost....
I think the symbol is GS morphed together that actually looks like 3 too.
http://sports.yahoo....
Anybody know?
#51 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 11:39 am |
Wow, that rally-cap abortion is up to $31 on eBay. For something you could have gotten free at the park.
There really is a sucker born every day.
#52 by justin on 04.25.07 11:42 am |
Brian from Ohio said:
He destroyed the Bulls, huh? At least he didn’t throw 40 years of history out the window and create a PR nightmare to alienate the team from politicians in the area so that when he sold the team to out-of-state owners, there would be virtually no other option but to move the team. Stupid Howard Shultz.
Sorry, I’m just a bitter Sonics fan (and I’m not real hopefully that Washington state politicians will do what needs to be done to keep the team in the Seattle area)…
*sigh*
#53 by BCrisp on 04.25.07 11:43 am |
Anthony Verna said:
I’m an Aggie, so I’m 100% biased, but I’ll try and be objective. I’ve never been a big fan of “Saw ‘em Off” I think we should promote A&M rather than put down Texas, but that’s just me. I’ll even link to an article from the Texas newspaper. Link
In there own words the “Saw ‘em Off” logo causes confusion: “the similarities among the marks and goods are so great to create a likelihood of confusion.” So someone is going to walk into a store in College Station full of maroon shirts, buy a shirt with “saw ‘em Off” and a logo with no horns and think they are buying a Texas shirt? Someone please explain to me how that is a valid argument.
Also: “defendants have been and continue to be unjustly enriched at UT’s expense by their unauthorized use of defendant’s marks” What Texas expense? So they are saying that out of all the people that bought Texas shirts after they won the national championships a few people bought “Saw ‘em Off” shirts and Texas lost money. Please.
I’m an engineer by trade, and have no legal education. I could see where Texas has a case and a valid complaint. But using those two quotes as their main points just does not make sense to me.
#54 by Broker75 on 04.25.07 11:44 am |
Seth H said:
I guess it would depend which way the wind is blowing..
#55 by todd krevanchi on 04.25.07 11:50 am |
Mr. Met said:
at days end yesterday the titleist va tech hat was at $202!!! i dont know what the auction ended at, but the 3 titleist team hats i have i paid no more than $26 for…
#56 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 11:56 am |
todd krevanchi said:
Not meaning to be callous, nothing like that, but after a couple of years, when the VA Tech massacre is not at the forefront of the news like it currently is, this individual is going to sit back and wonder why he paid $200+ for a cap that is sitting in his closet gathering dust.
#57 by N on 04.25.07 12:02 pm |
Mindless speculation, but I bet one of the bonus numbers for tomorrow’s column is 00. Worn by Omar Olivares for most of the teams he played on. He said it wasn’t his number, it was his initials.
#58 by Andy (#11) on 04.25.07 12:04 pm |
The cheerleader in the background of the Essesco.com site has “Green Wave” on her uniform.
Why didn’t they choose a better team name for their home page background…like “Red Storm” or something?
#59 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 12:06 pm |
Andy (#11) said:
Maybe because St. John’s University has “Red Storm” copyrighted.
#60 by NickNH on 04.25.07 12:15 pm |
I loved that couple running the marathon. First I saw the guy, and I was thinking, “I’m always cool with a tuxedo t-shirt.” Then I saw his bride to be, and I got it, and I started dying and cheering my ass off for them. It was definitely one of the coolest things I’ve ever seen on Marathon Monday.
#61 by todd krevanchi on 04.25.07 12:16 pm |
Mr. Met said:
its actually a nice looking hat… the two colors together look pretty cool. i wanted to get another team titleist hat and actually considered getting the va tech one about a month ago, just based on the colors of it alone…
#62 by Joey Guns on 04.25.07 12:18 pm |
Tom said:
What kind of undershirt is he wearing??
#63 by pete m on 04.25.07 12:19 pm |
philadelphiaeagles.com unveiled the eagles 75th season patch and throwback unis from 1933 they will be wearing sometime this season. They are blue and yellow it appears. There are a couple of photos on the site.
#64 by Anthony Verna on 04.25.07 12:22 pm |
Mr. Met said:
Actually, all of the St. John’s RED STORM trademarks are dead according to the USPTO (which only means they don’t have federally registered trademarks – they probably still have other trademark rights called “common law” trademark rights).
#65 by Paul Lukas on 04.25.07 12:23 pm |
N said:
I always intended double-zero to be part of the rundown. Not really a “bonus” number — just part of the basic roster.
#66 by Anthony Verna on 04.25.07 12:32 pm |
BCrisp said:
Well, this is where it gets tricky, no doubt. And right now the state of the law is in flux, as last year’s Federal Trademark Dilution Act has yet to make its way through the courts.
But that’s where you start with trademark law and trademark infringement. 1) Are the two marks similar? 2) Is there a likelihood of confusion between the two marks? After last year’s FTDA, there must only be a showing of the likelihood of confusion, not actual confusion.
But you bring good issues – can anyone really be confused that one school would be selling that particular shirt in another university’s store? I’d tend to agree with you there, but other factors may be an issue, too, since I don’t know where else the shirts are sold and if it can be shown who bought those shirts.
So I understand where you’re coming from – but I don’t blame any entity for filing a Tm suit to protect their marks.
(Ok. I’m done. Back to uniforms for the rest of the day.)
#67 by Anthony Verna on 04.25.07 12:34 pm |
pete m said:
Those would be the uniforms in the style of the Frankford Yellowjackets.
http://en.wikipedia....
#68 by skridge on 04.25.07 12:50 pm |
Mr. Met said:
On the road, the Reds wear all-red batting helmets, yet wear the two-toned hats (red top, black bill). If you ask me, one of the two colors, that’s not in their team name, needs ditching!
#69 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 12:52 pm |
Anthony Verna said:
Maybe St. John’s will take the opportunity to come up with a new nickname instead of the crap they have now.
(Yeah RIGHT)……
#70 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 12:54 pm |
Joey Guns said:
Looks like a Nike Revolution. Nike doesn’t make all the shirts with distinguishing (read: fucked-up) sleeve markings i.e. dot-matrix. Some of the shirts have plain team-color sleeves.
#71 by Rob Hinkle on 04.25.07 12:55 pm |
pete m said:
Here’s the throwbacks – site says they were worn by the Eagles in 1933
Current Uniforms with the 75th Season Patch
#72 by Philly Bill on 04.25.07 12:55 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Al Oliver (far right) also wore zero and claimed it was an ‘O’. Famed cop impersonator Olden Polynice probably had the same rationale…
Still wondering who actually makes Sheff’s spikes, and wish I’d tried to get a close look at ‘em when I saw the Tigers twice in spring training.
#73 by Robert on 04.25.07 12:56 pm |
Joey Guns said:
One of the Reds players was wearing a similar undershirt last night, and it caught my eye. Is the grey/colored-sleeve undershirt a new trend?
#74 by Go Cyclones on 04.25.07 1:00 pm |
Is it just me or does Ethan have one stirrup on correctly and the other backwards?
#75 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 1:02 pm |
skridge said:
I suppose that counts. I was thinking more along the lines of the airbrushed (for lack of a better term) two-tone Cool Flo helmets. The Reds have an all-red cap; the Mets, on the other hand, don’t have a blue-fading-into-black cap with a black NY logo for a cap design; the closest thing is their spring-training/batting practice caps.
Likewise, the Rockies have a purple-fading-into-black batting helmet with a purple and silver logo. They don’t have a corresponding cap with those colors; the closest thing is their Alternate 2 cap, an all-purple model.
#76 by Metsfan AZ on 04.25.07 1:02 pm |
Go Cyclones said:
Nothing gets by this crowd, good catch.
#77 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 1:06 pm |
Robert said:
Not really. Players have been wearing them since at least season. I know Carlos Beltran wore a blue one (royal blue sleeves/ gray body) last year when the Mets wore blue at home, since Nike didn’t make a Revolution shirt in blue.
Nicely enough, this year Nike does make a Revolution in royal blue for the Mets, as well as a what’s-become-the-norm black one.
#78 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 1:08 pm |
Mr. Met said:
I should have said, Nike didn’t make a dot-matrix Revolution shirt last year for the Mets in blue. They did have a plain sleeved model with blue sleeves.
#79 by Chad G on 04.25.07 1:11 pm |
Alright!, Mets in blue caps and undersleeves today. Snow white Unis though.
#80 by cliff rancho on 04.25.07 1:11 pm |
Robert said:
Jamie Moyer is great. Always fun to watch in Seattle. He always chooses the home whites (and I imagine grey on the road), when he pitches. I remember the Seattle owners had a rule that the Mariners would have to wear their ‘alternate’ jerseys on Mondays, but Moyer would always fight that when he pitched.
I can recall seeing him pitch in an alternate jersey last year before he left, but I doubt it was his choice.
And how can you not like him after hearing Scott Hatteberg tell the story of facing him in Moneyball?
#81 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 1:12 pm |
Teebz said:
Teebz, I found your entry very enlightening since I didn’t know the whole circumstance behind the sale. I agree that the Wild! are great (love the red unis), but I really miss the old North Stars unis. Seeing the guy wearing the cheap-ass version last night just underscored how beautiful the logo is. It’s like when you’re with a wonderful new boy/girlfriend who is almost everything you want, but you still can’t forget your first girl/boyfriend who broke your heart.
Now, let’s hear your rationale behind the Lakers/Wolves debacle.
MetsfanAz, I knew ya had my back, even though we don’t see eye-to-eye on the black thing.
Anthony V., you were inciting! You wanted to see the Wrath of Minna. That’s ok; I’m (mostly) over it now.
Paul, I like the new logo. Glad to see that you are supporting my high school, Irondale High School. Can’t wait to see the next incarnation of the logo.
#82 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 1:17 pm |
Chad G said:
When did white become snow white? Is that the official color?
#83 by Broker75 on 04.25.07 1:18 pm |
Chad G said:
who the Mets playing today? Yankees are up against the Blue Jays, at least we know what the Yankees will wearing..Blue Jays? probably BLACK
#84 by Monte on 04.25.07 1:19 pm |
I prefer the look the mets are sporting today. I know the pinstripes are old school, but I just don’t like them imitating the yankees. Why not just take the elements of the old NL teams? I’d love the mets to ditch the black and the pinstripes.
#85 by Alan on 04.25.07 1:20 pm |
Metsfan AZ said:
Picky, picky! I’m not perfect you know.
#86 by Monte on 04.25.07 1:20 pm |
Also, Pelfrey and LoDuca are definitely wearing the old caps w/ the grey underbrim. Haven’t seen any others yet.
#87 by Broker75 on 04.25.07 1:21 pm |
Minna, if you were wondering who brought up the Minn.Lakers yesterday, it was me. I had no idea the Los Angeles Lakers inherited the team from Minneapolis. Also, I’m very interested in seeing what the uni looked like.
#88 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 1:24 pm |
Minna H. said:
I think the Mets themselves refer to the uniforms as “Snow Whites”. It’s probably easier to say “snow whites” than “home alternate uniform 2″.
Even worse, the Mets once had an alternate cap that was all white with a blue brim and button on the top. They called those the “Ice Cream Man” caps.
#89 by Kieran K. on 04.25.07 1:25 pm |
I love the throwback Eagles uniforms. They sound like they will be very nice. They’re going to wear them on Sept. 23 against Detroit.
David Akers with throwback Eagles helmet
#90 by Chad G on 04.25.07 1:25 pm |
Minna H. said:
That’s just how we refer to the Unis without pinstripes. Booker, they’re playing the Rockies. Monte, I like the pinstripes better because the drop-shadow the use works better with the pins, it helps the letters and numbers pop off the stripes. With the snow whites, I feel the dropp shadow looks messy. If there was no drop shadow on the snow whites I would like them better. But I also like tradition, so there is another reason I like the pins better.
#91 by Dave A on 04.25.07 1:26 pm |
Broker75 said:
Sadly, you’re probably right. Since they wear the black jerseys both at home and on the road, it seems like the Jays wear their alternate jersey more than either of the regular home or away ones.
#92 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 1:29 pm |
Monte said:
Reyes.
#93 by Broker75 on 04.25.07 1:29 pm |
Dave A said:
apparently the black ’sells’ according to Paul Godfrey and Ted Rogers. I hate that, what do they know! I’m in Toronto every once in a while, and never see a Black Jay! They’re always Blue.
#94 by Quint on 04.25.07 1:30 pm |
I’d assume one of the bonus numbers is 1/8, for Eddie Gaedel of the St. Louis Browns. Although I can’t think of a specific reason he wore 1/8, except that he was a midget.
#95 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 1:31 pm |
Broker75 said:
Broker75, here is a link to the history of the Mpls Lakers. Not sure how accurate it is, and I guess I have to come to grips with it sometime that LA stole our Lakers.
#96 by Monte on 04.25.07 1:32 pm |
Chad G said:
Yup. I was including the drop shadow in my ditch the black comment. I’m fairly certain that the first year the mets went w/o pinstripes (no names on the back of the jerseys either) there was no black at all in the uniform. I’m pretty sure they did it in 97 for the first go round of Jackie Robinson celebration. Having trouble finding a picture though.
#97 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 1:34 pm |
Mr. Met said:
Snicker. That’s funny. You made up that last bit, didn’t you, Mr. Met? It’s simply too incredible to believe.
Last word on Lakers/North Stars. While it is the uni I miss for the North Stars, it’s the name for the Lakers.
#98 by Monte on 04.25.07 1:37 pm |
This, but without the nasty white cap. I think that would look siiiiiick w/ the blue cap.
#99 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 1:37 pm |
Monte said:
Ask and ye shall receive. Not only did the “Mets” on the front not have a drop shadow, you get a glimpse at the wonderful (tongue-planted-firmly-in-cheek) Ice Cream Man caps:
http://www.ultimatem...
#100 by Chad G on 04.25.07 1:38 pm |
Minna H. said:
Here is a throwback verision of the Uni
what does mpls stand for? Now if it was MSPL that would make sense to me (Mineapolis St. Paul Lakers)
#101 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 1:39 pm |
Minna H. said:
I wish I had. The only joke here is those caps.
#102 by Dave A on 04.25.07 1:40 pm |
Quint said:
I was trying to post about the Gaedel number as well when the site ate my post. Other ones that I can think of are the three digit numbers worn in Japanese baseball that were recently discussed here and this.
#103 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 1:41 pm |
Chad G said:
MinneaPoLiS
#104 by Joey Guns on 04.25.07 1:41 pm |
Mr. Met said:
The Mets announcers talked about those white hats last night. They said the Mets only wore them for 6 games before they pulled the ripcord…..
#105 by Monte on 04.25.07 1:43 pm |
Mr. Met said:
They really were terrible. I love those uniforms though. Assbags really snuck in the black on us.
#106 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 1:44 pm |
Mr. Met said:
Yeah, that. It was the Minneapolis Lakers, and that’s how we abbreviate Minneapolis.
I just got a post eaten up while trying to post a link to the history of the Mets’ unis that included that same pic of Bernard Gilkey in his ice cream man cap.
Any idea where I can get me one of those?
I’m kidding, Mr. Met and all the Mets fans. If you ever saw me wearing that hat, it would be your civic duty to whap it off my head.
#107 by Chad G on 04.25.07 1:44 pm |
Mr. Met said:
The only problem I had with these Unis…besides the white caps was that orange outline was too weak. It needened to be beefed up. The use a better thickness now…but with the drop shadow
#108 by Dave A on 04.25.07 1:46 pm |
Chad G said:
MPLS is short for Minneapolis, similar to how the Chamberlain-era Philadelphia Warriors teams had PHILA.
#109 by Chad G on 04.25.07 1:46 pm |
man, I always miss the “y” when I’m typing “they”…
#110 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 1:46 pm |
One last try:
Mets’ uni history. 1997 for the hats.
#111 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 1:47 pm |
Still won’t post. The link is:
ultimatemets.com/uniforms.html
1997 for the hats.
#112 by Matthew S. on 04.25.07 1:49 pm |
Robert said:
Robert, medics (or corpsmen as their known in the Navy/Marine Corps), doctors, nureses, etc. are required by the Geneva Convention to wear a white band with Red Cross insignia and they are not allowed to carry weapons. Additionally, military vehicles and helicopters that are specified as for medical use must carry similar identifying insignia (white field with red cross on the vehicle) and are prohibited from carrying any sort of armament, even for self defense. The wearing of the red cross in such a prominent manner is meant to identify medical personnel to both sides as it is also against the Geneva Convention to fire on or assault medical personnel who are properly identified as such. In practice, however, even signatory nations sometimes don’t follow all of these rules….
Found this page with some pictures and a little history: http://home.att.net/...
Even whole ships have to be properly identified if the primary raison d’etre is medical: http://www.defenseli...
#113 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 1:49 pm |
Chad G said:
That picture brings back memories… Bernard Gilkey had that one awesome season with the Mets, and then it was all downhill from there…
#114 by Chad G on 04.25.07 1:50 pm |
Mr. Met said:
At least David Wright and Rick Peterson are wearing the new caps with the black underbrims
#115 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 1:50 pm |
Chad G said:
Wow! Those ore REALLY WHITE. No wonder they call them snow white. I think a little more orange and/or blue wouldn’t hurt.
#116 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 1:51 pm |
Minna H. said:
Which would you consider worse, Minna: The Ice Cream Man Cap or a pink Mets hat?
#117 by Matthew S. on 04.25.07 1:54 pm |
Robert said:
Robert, medics (or corpsmen as their known in the Navy/Marine Corps), doctors, nureses, etc. are required by the Geneva Convention to wear a white band with Red Cross insignia and they are not allowed to carry weapons. Additionally, military vehicles and helicopters that are specified as for medical use must carry similar identifying insignia (white field with red cross on the vehicle) and are prohibited from carrying any sort of armament, even for self defense. The wearing of the red cross in such a prominent manner is meant to identify medical personnel to both sides as it is also against the Geneva Convention to fire on or assault medical personnel who are properly identified as such. In practice, however, even signatory nations sometimes don’t follow all of these rules….
Found this page with some pictures and a little history: http://home.att.net/...
(Sorry if this posted twice, it’s not showing up on my computer, but when I tried to post it again, it says that’s a dulicate post).
#118 by Paul Lukas on 04.25.07 1:54 pm |
Here’s another shot of the white caps. The player is the now-forgotten Takashi Kashiwada, who appeared in a handful of games in 1997.
#119 by Matthew S. on 04.25.07 1:55 pm |
I put together a nice response to what Robert said in comment 35, but the page refuses to let it post and then, when I attempt to repost, I get a message saying that it’s a duplicate comment…what’s going on here? Am I the only one having trouble today?
#120 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 1:56 pm |
Chad G said:
The thing is this: Last year, they used the blue caps so sparingly, why would you need to order new ones for this year? I can’t believe ANY of those caps were so used up to the point where they would need a new one for this year.
Also, when they show the backs of the caps on the screen, it looks they have a big white blotch on the back of the cap. That new stitching they used on the MLB logo looks horrible.
#121 by GoTerriers on 04.25.07 1:58 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
I’ll have a “Rocket Pop”, a “Fudgesicle” and a “Nutty Buddy”, please . . .
#122 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 2:02 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Why is it the Mets whiff on every Japanese player they import? See: Tsuyoshi Shinjo, Kazuo Matsui, and the aforementioned Kashiwada.
#123 by Philly Bill on 04.25.07 2:04 pm |
Matthew S. said:
Been having it regularly since the redesign; limiting the number of links in your post seems to help, and of course you should make it a habit to copy the entirety of your post before clicking the “Say It” button.
#124 by Paul Lukas on 04.25.07 2:04 pm |
Matthew S. said:
Matthew, I recovered your “lost” comment, and now it’s posted. Sometimes our spam filter mistakenly catches a “real” comment and erroneously thinks it’s spam. Usually this involves comments with lots of links (multiple links are one tip-off of a spambot), but that’s obviously not the case with your comment. Another possibility: You may have the same IP address as a known spammer. Anyway, my apologies for the hassle, and I’m sorry I don’t have a more specific explanation.
#125 by Chad G on 04.25.07 2:04 pm |
too bad my Mets are getting spanked today:(9 zip Rockies in the 4th), boo. This isn’t looking good for the blue caps, since they lost the only other time they wore them this season.
#126 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 2:07 pm |
Chad G said:
And David Wright is back to the pajama pants looks……
#127 by junkland on 04.25.07 2:08 pm |
Mr. Met said:
Masato Yoshii was pretty solid.
#128 by Erich on 04.25.07 2:08 pm |
Here is a Mitchell and Ness Minn. Lakers Jersey
#129 by Teebz on 04.25.07 2:10 pm |
The Jays wore their gray uniforms for both games in Boston, and won both games rather handily. I’d be surprised if they come back with the blacks today, especially after crapping the bed in black in Baltimore.
#130 by anthony on 04.25.07 2:12 pm |
MIZUNO: cool alernate for the orioles and tampa bay. poor translation for st. louis…
#131 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 2:13 pm |
junkland said:
I guess if you want to call years of 6-8 with a 4.19 ERA and 12-8 with a 4.38 ERA for the Mets, 32-47 and 4.68 ERA lifetime, solid……
#132 by Paul Lukas on 04.25.07 2:13 pm |
junkland said:
And let’s give them credit for trying but failing to sign Norihito Nakimora, who turned out to be a huuuuge bust with the Dodgers.
#133 by Chad G on 04.25.07 2:14 pm |
Mr. Met said:
Really? He was wearing high socks at least in the first inning today. The previous 2 nights he was wearing long pants though.
#134 by Andy on 04.25.07 2:15 pm |
Kieran K. said:
I don’t like the helmet. Looks like they’re trying to imitate the look of the old leather helmets and the way it was stitched together…which I don’t think looks good on U of Michigan’s helmets either.
I think it might look really good if they added some shadowing or something to make it look like the “wings” on the front are a separate section that’s stitched on.
#135 by Johnny O on 04.25.07 2:16 pm |
I was watching the Brewers game last night, and the Crew’s TV announcers were talking about their Alts. THey said that they are a very supersticious (sp?) team and that so far this year they are 7-1 (now 8-1) in the blue tops. But then they went on to say that it is always the starting pitchers decision what colors they are wearing.. and only sometimes the equiptment manager. Is this true? I mean I have been a baseball fan my whole life and never thought the starting pitcher chose what color the team is gonna wear. Is this common?
#136 by Anthony Verna on 04.25.07 2:16 pm |
Minna, I was not instigating anything! I was just stating that we’d feel your wrath.
#137 by Chad G on 04.25.07 2:16 pm |
Chad G said:
yeah, Wright just cought a pop-up. He still has the high socks.
#138 by Dwayne on 04.25.07 2:17 pm |
Robert said:
I think in the 1975 movie “Rollerball” the medics wore a two-toned helmet that was white on top. It has been a while since I have seen that movie though.
Mark in Shiga said:
Thanks for clearing that up. I thought that was the case, but with my limited knowledge of the language, I thought that it was at least interesting to see the MLB and NPB logos “Mizunoized”.
#139 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 2:19 pm |
Chad G said:
My bad; I was basing it off last night. Just caught a glimpse of Mr. Wright’s outstanding socks……
I would think this qualifies for UniWatch: My big-headed namesake is wearing matching snow whites with the rest of the team, but has a different cap: Blue with an orange button on the top, but the interlocking NY is black with a white outline and orange drop-shadow… tsk tsk.
#140 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 2:22 pm |
Johnny O said:
For the longest time didn’t the Cubs wear their blue alts when Carlos Zambrano was pitching because it was his choice?
#141 by Fez Whatley on 04.25.07 2:25 pm |
Mr. Met said:
The model undershirt is the ‘Nike Pro’ line that boasts the seamless shirt. They were the ones with the white stitching that you saw everywhere a few years ago (pre-revelouton). They are either loose or tight depending on the model and come in a rainbow of colours.
I have a few of the gray body shirts. They are really comfortable and the vented panels are all so nice on the hot days.
The gray body shirts all have the MLB Authentic logo on them and a spot to write your number.
#142 by Mike on 04.25.07 2:25 pm |
I am heading to Pittsburgh this weekend to catch a Bucs game. Has anyone heard if the red vests have been canned yet or not? I have not seen anything on them (aside from this site) since they used them a couple of weeks ago.
#143 by SpartyCuse on 04.25.07 2:27 pm |
Johnny O said:
It is common for teams to let the starting pitcher decide between an alt or the regular home/road uni. The Cubs used to do this, and Carlos Zambrano ALWAYS wore the blue alt. The Cubs got rid of the alt this year, so Z has to wear the regular unis. To say the least, he looks weird in them, because hes always worn the alternate uni.
#144 by Matthew S. on 04.25.07 2:30 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
I sincerely doubt it’s the spammer thing as I am employed by a fairly reputable organization….thanks for the help/explanation Paul. This is the first time I’ve had any trouble the comment filter, hopefully the last as well.
#145 by Joey Guns on 04.25.07 2:34 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Here’s another shot of Kashiwada in action. Someone should have prevented him from taking uniform #18. It just doesn’t look right on him.
http://www.mbtn.net/...
One of my favorite moments from an Asian Mets player was back in 2005…….. Korean pitcher Dae-Sung Koo doubled off Randy Johnson, then scored on an infield hit by Reyes (and inevitably got hurt on his head first slide into home plate)
http://sports.espn.g...
#146 by Joey Guns on 04.25.07 2:36 pm |
Joey Guns said:
Here’s the slide into home plate:
http://ultimatemets....
#147 by Korch on 04.25.07 2:42 pm |
From what I have gathered from the boys over on Niketalk, Gary Sheffield is wearing his own signature shoe and is marketing the brand himself to retailers. The logo looks like the sonics current “S” logo.
To me its a combination of that logo and Georgia and the packers “G”.
#148 by Chad G on 04.25.07 2:44 pm |
I can never get screen shots to work right, so I can’t provide a picture, but has anyone else noticed that the sleeve on Ambiorix Burgos’ throwing arm seems shorter than the other. Same thing that was going on and talked about with Todd Jones
#149 by Modernish Father on 04.25.07 2:44 pm |
jesse said:
Here’s an article with a little more in-depth look at the whole “Saw ‘Em Off” dispute:
UT challenges local businessman over logo
It also has a picture of the logo involved.
#150 by Cathy on 04.25.07 2:47 pm |
Matthew S. said:
Matthew….does your employer know you are surfing the net and blogging during work hours?? …just givin you a hard time ;)
#151 by Matthew S. on 04.25.07 2:56 pm |
Cathy said:
Ha. Cathy, I’m sure my employer is aware of that. My supervisor is pretty lenient so long as work is done in a timely manner.
#152 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 2:57 pm |
Mr. Met said:
Pink. Give me any choice and pink, and I will always (well, almost always) choose pink as the worst option–especially in sports.
Anthony V., oh, I know you lawyer-types pretending to be all laid-back while subtly stirring the waters. You can’t fool me!
Matthew S., I have had problems with my post not posting several times. I don’t post more than a link or three at a time, so it’s not that. I have noticed it won’t let me post any links from ESPN.
#153 by Mark on 04.25.07 3:01 pm |
Mike said:
I don’t believe that my beloved buccos have gotten rid of those horrible red vests. The plan was to wear them on Friday home games, which they’ve only had one of against San Francisco. So plan on seeing the red vests on friday against the…REDS!
#154 by Steve on 04.25.07 3:01 pm |
#155 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 3:01 pm |
SpartyCuse said:
I found it weird that the Cubs banned the blue alternative when their ace pitcher considers it ‘his’ uni. I think this is the start of the end for Zambrano with the Cubs.
#156 by Joey Guns on 04.25.07 3:02 pm |
Chad G said:
Both sleeves look kinda short to me.
#157 by GoTerriers on 04.25.07 3:03 pm |
#158 by jesse on 04.25.07 3:06 pm |
Mike said:
I think the vests are here for at least the duration of the season, keep in mind tonights game is only the sixth of the season. Damn they are ugly. I could not find a pic, but I don’t think they wore the alternate hat when they wore them last however.
#159 by Greg on 04.25.07 3:10 pm |
Paul, haven’t been able to read all the comments for the past few days so apologies if already linked, but Uni Watch gets a nice mention at Coudal Partners (all things design). Second column, half way down if interested.
You know these folks Paul?
#160 by Anthony Verna on 04.25.07 3:12 pm |
Minna. . .
Are you saying pink doesn’t work?
http://www.eurotopfo...
http://it.uefa.com/m...
http://www.ilpalermo...
0=)
#161 by Broker75 on 04.25.07 3:16 pm |
Minna H. said:
thanks Minna, I admit though, I couldn’t read it all, I just finished writing up 4 policies, anyways I will read the rest tonight(maybe with mary-jane) but the uni’s look pretty basic, and one of the players has #99. I think the shoes are the Converse All Stars, that were hot back in the late 80’s-90’s, remember those?, I actually had a blue pair of those things.
#162 by MGreen on 04.25.07 3:18 pm |
I was watching clips of the Cubs game from yesterday, and when did they add those gigantic Under Armor ads on the outfield wall? I think the one I saw was in left-center field.
On another note, PAUL – along the lines of white batting helmets, if you need more examples, Texas wears white helmets. Here’s a link to a photo gallery against UT Pan American. Another interesting thing I noticed is that Texas wasn’t wearing their usual white cleats at home. Enjoy!!
#163 by Ryan Real on 04.25.07 3:22 pm |
Not sure if anyone’s watching the Chelsea/Liverpool Champions League match now, but keep an eye out for Chelsea keeper’s Petr Cech rugby-style helmet he’s worn since his head injury last October. For some reason I think it’s pretty cool.
http://www.fifa.com/...
#164 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 3:24 pm |
Broker75 said:
Broker75, that’s ok, I didn’t read it all, either. I am not so keen on the unis, but I sure miss the name.
Anthony V., I am speechless, for once. Words fail me. Those pink jerseys are definitely worse than the *laugh* ice cream man caps.
For those who have seen the SI with Troy P. on the cover (and most of you should have as I’ve posted it often), here is a great ‘outtake’ shot:
Game Day Troy. Wish I could have a print of that.
#165 by Monte on 04.25.07 3:31 pm |
anyone know why tampa bay wears black batting helmets even when they wear the green hats? I think green batting helmets would be pretty sharp.
#166 by Cathy on 04.25.07 3:32 pm |
Rob Hinkle said:
I like the jerseys and the helmet….hate the shiny white pants….BUT the BEST part of the throwback unis are the SOCKS:
http://www.philadelp...
They have a whole gallery and are already selling some jerseys, baseball caps etc.
Paul, take a look at the gallery, what do you think?
http://museum.philad...
#167 by Cathy on 04.25.07 3:35 pm |
PS-Don’t care much for the grey face bar on the throwback helmet…should have stuck with white or at least one of two colors.
#168 by Fez Whatley on 04.25.07 3:52 pm |
Cathy said:
True throwback… NO FACEMASKS!
#169 by Paul Lukas on 04.25.07 3:54 pm |
Greg said:
Nope. But I appreciate the mention.
Monte said:
I was wondering/thinking the same thing while watching them play the Yanks last night…
#170 by Jordan on 04.25.07 3:57 pm |
Something recently reminded me of the football players that had football cleat models with an MCS baseball plate on the bottom. I don’t remember who the player was or who he played for, but someone had a pic of this a while back during the NFL season.
Anyone have any pictures of the player wearing the baseball-ized football cleats? Any info on the player and such is appreciated!
#171 by Bill T. on 04.25.07 4:03 pm |
Count me in the minority of Mets fans that actually liked the white caps in 1997. As long as it was worn infrequently – not like the way they wear black everyday.
Side note: John Olerud and Mike Piazza wore white batting helmets on the field for the games in which white caps were worn.
#172 by Bill T. on 04.25.07 4:08 pm |
My bad. I meant to say Todd Hundley. Piazza didn’t arrive in NY until mid-1998.
#173 by Richard on 04.25.07 4:09 pm |
Ryan Real said:
it’s nice to see Liverpool’s kit include the primary color in the socks…
#174 by Timmy D on 04.25.07 4:09 pm |
Bob Brenley just called Rickie Weeks’ pajama pants “boot cut” pants. Just thought that little tidbit would be nice.
#175 by My Name is Not Earl on 04.25.07 4:18 pm |
Chad G said:
Maybe you need to get a keyboard made by the same folks who make Shawn Green’s road jersey. The “y” would stick up two inches above the rest of the keys, and you wouldn’t forget to hit the key when typing “they” or other y-inclusive words.
#176 by Robert on 04.25.07 4:19 pm |
#177 by stuby on 04.25.07 4:22 pm |
MGreen said:
Wow. Two teams in the same game wearing white batting helmets. Almost to much to take.
#178 by Ryan Real on 04.25.07 4:28 pm |
Richard said:
It’s odd, considering adidas makes both kits and they’re basically the same thing, to see the red/red of Liverpool and the blue/white of Chelsea. Well, maybe it’s not, but I think it is.
#179 by Joey Guns on 04.25.07 4:29 pm |
Someone needs to find a pic of the Mets white batting helmets from 1997.
#180 by Richard on 04.25.07 4:33 pm |
Ryan Real said:
I think it’s odd – hence why I snagged the shot of them. I’m just wondering what Joe Cole is measuring with his right hand after his goal today…
#181 by Shaftman on 04.25.07 4:37 pm |
Joey Guns said:
I believe they wore blue ones while batting but Olerud and Hundley wore white ones in the field.
#182 by Metsfan AZ on 04.25.07 4:41 pm |
Shaftman said:
Isn’t there a Rickey being Rickey story about him coming to the Mets and telling Olerud “I played with a guy in Toronto that wore a helemt in the field too.” And Olerud’s response was “That was me.”
#183 by warren thompson on 04.25.07 4:44 pm |
Rob Hinkle said:
I like the “Iggles” throwbacks, but what is that stuff on the shoulder yokes? Light-blue tinfoil?
(Someone kindly advise soonest, if not sooner.)
#184 by Ryan Real on 04.25.07 4:50 pm |
Richard said:
A) “Odd” = crappy. B) That’s pretty funny. If I had to guess, I’d say it’s the amount of time during the match that Drogba stays on his feet.
#185 by pete on 04.25.07 4:52 pm |
the Cubs’ Felix Pie is wearing #20 today. He’s worn 17 (Mark Grace’s number) every other time I’ve seen him
#186 by Joey Guns on 04.25.07 4:55 pm |
Metsfan AZ said:
Yeah, that’s Rickey for you.
#187 by Jamikel on 04.25.07 4:55 pm |
Ryan Real said:
Yep, same kit, except Liverpool has a fold-down collar, and Chelsea has a stand-up one. Having both teams in the same kit, in just red vs blue, makes them look like a fooseball table.
#188 by Todd on 04.25.07 4:55 pm |
pete said:
I think someone posted on here on Monday or Tuesday that the night before, Pie had switched from 17 to 20.
#189 by Kerry on 04.25.07 5:01 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
So THAT’S what it is. I had a comment or two like that a week or so ago and it drove me insane!! I guess I’ll have to break up my comments where I want to include a lot of links.
#190 by Anthony Verna on 04.25.07 5:03 pm |
Metsfan AZ said:
I have to look it up, but I think Olerud said that the story was fictional, BUT, also added that it sounded just like a Rickey Henderson story.
#191 by Matthew S. on 04.25.07 5:06 pm |
Joey Guns said:
Except wouldn’t Rickey have actually said “You know Rickey played with a guy in Toronto…..”? I’ve never heard someone refer to himself in the 3rd person so much and not be joking.
#192 by Anthony Verna on 04.25.07 5:07 pm |
Funny, as no source is cited on either page, but it is said that story is fiction in both profiles:
http://en.wikipedia....
http://en.wikipedia....
#193 by Matt from the 'Ville on 04.25.07 5:07 pm |
Is this a Cool-Flo Jersey??? LOL
#194 by David on 04.25.07 5:10 pm |
I bet one of the bonus numbers is that midget who wore 1/8
#195 by Bill T. on 04.25.07 5:12 pm |
Shaftman said:
True. Olerud and Hundley wore the white helmets on defense, and wore blue helmets when batting.
Same as the Reds who wore red batting helmets when wearing their white caps at home (mid 1990’s).
#196 by Bill T. on 04.25.07 5:17 pm |
David said:
Midget? LOL. His name was Eddie Gaedel. I would think 1/8 might be the bonus number, but is there any significance to 1/8 for Gaedel as opposed to any other fraction?
#197 by Mark in Shiga on 04.25.07 5:19 pm |
I also loved the white Mets caps!
And a for why Kashiwada had #18 — Valentine chose it for him. In Japan, the “ace” pitcher traditionally gets #18 because of some kabuki-related thing where some actor’s signature line was associated with the number 18. (For some reason, the word “ohako”, meaning one’s specialty, is often written with the characters for “#18″. I would have to look up why this is.) So Bobby V. wanted to give their young Japanese import a little special recognition — he’s never get that number in Japan, and indeed when he returned and joined the Yomiuri Giants (Satan’s own spawn, they are), he had the number 49, which, though innocuous and relief-pitcher-like in the US, makes Japanese people think of death (”4″ is homonymous with “death”) and pain (same with “9″).
And Minna, if you want a good Belgian beer, look around for Chimay — not cheap (nearly $3.50 a bottle out here!) but well worth it!
#198 by Dan on 04.25.07 5:26 pm |
Jamikel said:
its traditional in soccer for the home team to wear white socks. my high school team would have the whole red look at away games. and for those that don’t know, the two teams can’t wear the same colored socks in a game because the contrasting colors help the referee know which team hit the ball out of bounds.
#199 by Matt from the 'Ville on 04.25.07 5:27 pm |
Matt from the ‘Ville said:
Let’s try this again…
#200 by Matthew S. on 04.25.07 5:28 pm |
Mark in Shiga said:
And I as pointed out last week, the profits from Chimay go to charity. That’s going to make you feel good inside (and so will the beer).
http://www.chimay.co...
So Mark, I’m guessing Danny Darwin’s number won’t be taken by any Japanese players anytime soon: http://oakland.athle...
That reminded of a joke Mitch Hedberg had about how the letter ‘B’ should be considered unlucky because it looks like a squinched [his word not mine] together 13…”Hey, what’s your name?” “Bob? Get the f*** away from me man!”
#201 by Matthew S. on 04.25.07 5:30 pm |
Dan said:
Except Liverpool always wears head to toe red (including socks) and has since 1964 (this is of course excluding games where it was required that they wear their alternate).
#202 by Chad G on 04.25.07 5:34 pm |
Matt from the ‘Ville said:
I think you mean “Cool-base”
#203 by Matthew S. on 04.25.07 5:35 pm |
Dan said:
My comment was just eaten by the spamfilter again. Hmmm.
Anyway, the gist was that while the white socks at home might be true of other teams, Liverpool has worn all red since 1964. From wikipedia (but with the documentation to back it up too):
In 1964, then Liverpool manager Bill Shankly decided to send the team out in all red for the first time against Anderlecht, as Ian St. John recalled in his autobiography:
“ He thought the colour scheme would carry psychological impact — red for danger, red for power. He came into the dressing room one day and threw a pair of red shorts to Ronnie Yeats. “Get into those shorts and let’s see how you look,†he said. “Christ, Ronnie, you look awesome, terrifying. You look 7ft tall.†“Why not go the whole hog, boss?†I suggested. “Why not wear red socks? Let’s go out all in red.†Shankly approved and an iconic kit was born.[33]
#204 by Matthew S. on 04.25.07 5:37 pm |
And Liverpool consistently wearing all red since 1964 is backed up further by this:
http://www.historica...
#205 by Andy from KC on 04.25.07 5:40 pm |
GoTerriers said:
Wow … that shows how much I follow the N.L., but I had no idea the Mets ever wore white hats like that. Reminds me of these jobbies the Royals wore in the mid ’90s (the pic makes them look white, but they were light gray). At least the Mets didn’t keep wearing them for 2-3 years like the Royals did.
#206 by Mark in Shiga on 04.25.07 6:04 pm |
Matthew, I had no idea that Chimay’s profits went to charity! Yet another reason to drink it! (Though I admit that the main reason is the taste, and second is the fact that my girlfriend dislikes it, so I can keep several bottles in the house without the fear of her drinking them all as she would with other beer. The charity thing is s distant third.)
Forty-four is indeed another number disliked by Japanese players and often reserved for foreign imports. Same for 4 (often given to the imported power hitter) and 42 (which foreign players also like because they get to experience what Jackie Robinson experienced when they come here, despite 60 years of enlightened history having passed back home).
#207 by John Zajac on 04.25.07 6:26 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Also, and forgive me if this has been covered and I missed it, but what happened to the 10 year patch on the Tampa jerseys?
#208 by James Craven on 04.25.07 6:27 pm |
Cathy said:
AHHHH! MY EYES!!! :censored: YOU, JEFF LURIE! YOU JUST SCARRED MY RETNAS FOR LIFE! DAMN YOU!
#209 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 6:27 pm |
Mark in Shiga said:
You think $3.50 is expensive for beer? Man, you like the good life. Chimay was the most recommended beer on my list, so I will give it a try. I’ll let you know next month how that works out for me.
#210 by Perry on 04.25.07 6:28 pm |
Johnny O said:
That’s allegedly how the Rockies do it, or so they said back when they first introduced alternate unis a few years back.
#211 by cathy on 04.25.07 6:34 pm |
Matthew S. said:
That’s good info Matthew. I’m a huge soccer fan. I do believe that the white socks for Chelsea stem from the old White at home addage. And, as you know, no two team ever have dark colored socks in the same match.
#212 by Metsfan AZ on 04.25.07 6:34 pm |
Andy from KC said:
I actually liked the grey caps since most teams had a road grey uni, I thought it made sense sartorially. I even bought a Mets grey “fashion cap” with an adjustable back. I’m not sure if I regret that one more than I would have an “ice cream man” cap. But definitely not as much as the black with blue brim that I currently own. My 2000 WS cap is the all black, becasue that was all i could find out here. Never worn because my head did a Barry Bonds on me. Need to get some autographs on that baby. But my most prized possession is my 1991, blue buttoned, no MLB logo, all blue, Mets cap. The NY is so faded and the shape is horrible and the black thread pokes me sometimes but I am never letting that one go. I don’t get the people on here that ask for advice on picking a Twins vs. Indians or St. Louis or whatever. I mean, I can definitely appreciate other teams logos and colors but I don’t see how you can wear them.
#213 by Paul Lukas on 04.25.07 6:47 pm |
John Zajac said:
Wow, good catch. Looks like they’ve been wearing it consistently on the road, but not at home. This is presumably because they wear a vest at home, and the players wears all sorts of different green undershirts (short-sleeved, long-sleeved, loose-fit, tight-fit, Nike-poxed, crew-collared, mock-turtle, etc.), so it’s hard to get everyone to wear the patch.
In fact, I just checked their official uni specs and was surprised to see that the patch is only supposed to be worn with the road and alt-home (i.e., solid-green) jerseys — NOT with the standard home vest. I hadn’t noticed that little detail until now.
So they’ve got an anniversary patch, but they’ve specifically designated that it NOT be worn with their basic home uniform. Man, this franchise truly can’t do anything right….
#214 by Chad G on 04.25.07 6:51 pm |
Metsfan AZ said:
I’ve always found that odd too. I find other teams logo’s interesting, but it would be sacrilidge sp? to wear some other team’s merch from the same league. I’ve always wanted to get a minor league cap, but I would only get one to a team I had a connection too, like they are a Mets farm team or they are from my area. All the mets minor league caps sucks though (I would think a Binghamton Mets hat would be slick if it didn’t have that stupid bee through the B) Plus the Hudson Valley Renegades stuff sucks, where I grew up. And the State College spikes stuff sucks, where I went to school. Now I live in LA and I’m not buying an Angels or Dodgers Cap.
#215 by Shaftman on 04.25.07 6:52 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Sure they can, they beat the Yankees…works for me.
#216 by Ryan Real on 04.25.07 6:52 pm |
cathy said:
This is why I love this site. I watch soccer from time to time and enjoy the Premiership and World Cup, but admittedly don’t know much about kits or the rules therein. I can voice my opinion from an American sports perspective (that two dark jerseys, one with dark socks and the other with light looks weird) and then other people comment and we all learn. Thanks. The Internet’s the best, innit?
#217 by Andy from KC on 04.25.07 6:57 pm |
Gotta disagree about the Royals’ gray hats — I thought the head-to-toe gray was a little too much. Bad things happen when the Royals stray from this — their black hat was pretty ugly too. I need to pick up one of the new shrink-resistant ones as my gigantic melon has outgrown about 6 fitted Royals hats through the years.
I agree with your last statement too. It’s not that I don’t own any other MLB hats; I used to live in Chicago and Arizona so if you dig deep enough in my closet you’ll find Cubs and D’Backs hats. But there’s only one team that’s YOUR team (at least that’s how it should be), and that’s the ONLY hat you should wear.
OK, the obligatory “I screwed up my last post” post — my comment starts with “gotta disagree.”
#218 by Leo on 04.25.07 7:03 pm |
While we’re on the John Olerud fix:
Happy Mets Jersey
Evil Mets Jersey
#219 by Brandon on 04.25.07 7:10 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Living down in Tampa the Rays have kinda grown on me.
I can’t disagree with anything said about the D-Rays…at least it’s better than when Namoli was in charge…. as long as they don’t bring back purple
#220 by u kno DBo on 04.25.07 7:23 pm |
pirates also went with the kansas cityish grey hats for a while in the late 90’s
http://www.baseballh...
#221 by Dan on 04.25.07 7:25 pm |
thanks for the information on Liverpool, i knew they wore red as much as possible, but wasn’t sure of the history behind it.
#222 by u kno DBo on 04.25.07 7:27 pm |
another look at the pittsburgh hat
http://img.nextag.co...
#223 by Bill T. on 04.25.07 7:28 pm |
u kno DBo said:
O’s, also.
#224 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 7:46 pm |
Bill T. said:
Wow, I do NOT remember that gray Orioles cap at all…. any pictures of an O’s player wearing it?
#225 by Mark on 04.25.07 7:52 pm |
u kno DBo said:
If I remember correctly along with that gray hat, they had another one that they wore sometimes with a yellow P instead of the black one. I’ll try to find a pic.
#226 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 7:57 pm |
Metsfan AZ said:
Yep I have one of those gray caps as well. I also have an all-orange one with a royal under-visor and a royal and white Mets NY. It actually looks really sharp, and it’s one of my favorite Mets caps, with the added advantage that it goes with all the royal and orange Mets stuff I wear.
I also own a Seattle Mariners cap, an old 59FIFTY from their logo redesign when they changed to the navy caps with the teal brims. I’ve always loved that cap, and it’s the only non-Mets MLB cap I own (well, aside from my Mets minor-league caps).
#227 by u kno DBo on 04.25.07 8:11 pm |
If I remember correctly along with that gray hat, they had another one that they wore sometimes with a yellow P instead of the black one. I’ll try to find a pic.
when the pirates unveiled their new grey hats i remember the P being yellow, but when the season started i think they wore the one with the black P. I could be wrong but maybe thats what your thinkin??
#228 by Adam on 04.25.07 8:35 pm |
The Diamondbacks wore an ice-cream man hat in their early years as well.
http://www.thepostca...
I used to own one, but only because my friend got one for his birthday but it didn’t fit him. It was my first 5950. (I have since been known to wear a Mariners, Astros, Red Sox, Mets, Giants and both a black and red Reds hat.)
#229 by Bill T. on 04.25.07 8:51 pm |
Continuing with the white/grey cap theme, the 1976 ChiSox had a white alt seen here.
The Dressed to the Nines exhibit is incredibly accurate pre-1995; I’m amazed that they didn’t make note of the shorts that the Sox wore for one game in the above link.
#230 by Mark on 04.25.07 9:15 pm |
u kno DBo said:
I think that you’re right u kno DBo. Good Call!
#231 by Robert on 04.25.07 9:38 pm |
Everyone is a fan of the Jamie Moyer Liberty Bell stirrups (though they were a bit droopy in this shot). http://i62.photobuck...
Why don’t the Phillies provide the other players with socks bearing the same logo? In Spring Training, infielder Danny Sandoval wore his pants up high, but there was no Liberty Bell in sight.
http://i62.photobuck... I wonder if it was because he was not wearing stirrups, but instead merely red socks.
#232 by stuby on 04.25.07 9:41 pm |
Bill T. said:
I remember having the 1977 Goose Gossage Topp’s card when he was on the White Sox and I’m pretty sure he was sporting the white cap (and no ’stache). Anyone have a shot of this card?
#233 by Jack H. on 04.25.07 9:47 pm |
You hear about this?
Guillen fined for back pocket violation.
#234 by Bill T. on 04.25.07 9:48 pm |
Robert said:
Re: Second photo.
Socks schmocks. What the hell is the guy on the left spitting out?
#235 by Matt from the 'Ville on 04.25.07 9:49 pm |
Chad G said:
I am now a bone head…. Thanks for bailing me out Chad G.
#236 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 10:02 pm |
stuby said:
Here ya go:
http://i20.ebayimg.c...
#237 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 10:03 pm |
stuby said:
Here ya go:
http://i20.ebayimg.c...
#238 by Joey Guns on 04.25.07 10:10 pm |
Bill T. said:
Probably sunflower seeds or dip.
#239 by stuby on 04.25.07 10:17 pm |
Mr. Met said:
Dude! Thanks.
#240 by Robert on 04.25.07 10:25 pm |
Bill T. said:
I made a little bet with myself on how long it would take someone to notice the spitter . . . .
#241 by C.N. on 04.25.07 10:29 pm |
Andy from KC said:
OK, the obligatory “I screwed up my last post” post — my comment starts with “gotta disagree.”
I couldn’t disagree more… I love ballcaps, and own 20 or so of them, wearing them all on a somewhat consistent basis. If anyone wanted to give me a birthday present (coming up in July ;) ), a baseball cap is always a safe bet… as long as it’s not a Braves or Yankees hat.
#242 by Mike Engle on 04.25.07 10:45 pm |
C.N. said:
I couldn’t disagree more… I love ballcaps, and own 20 or so of them, wearing them all on a somewhat consistent basis. If anyone wanted to give me a birthday present (coming up in July ;) ), a baseball cap is always a safe bet… as long as it’s not a Braves or Yankees hat.
My two cents: it’s OK to wear a hat of your favorite team and any cool throwback hat, on the condition that they do not represent a currently hated team.
For example, in my book:
Yankees: yes. My favorite team.
Red Red Sox hat with the blue brim: NO!
Any Mets hat: No, but I do support the Ditch the Black campaign.
NY Giants or Brooklyn Dodgers: probably, considering that those teams were never in New York in my lifetime. Nice hats, even though the Mets are supposed to wear a blue Giants hat.
Brewers ball-in-glove, red Twins TC cap, Expos: yes, yes, and yes. Love those hats.
Seattle Pilots: I’m not too crazy about logos on the brim. I much prefer the Mariners simple yellow S on blue.
Mustard chocolate Padres: (reaching for barf bag)
#243 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 11:37 pm |
Wow. Now I can’t respond to a comment. I just wanted to ask Robert in #240 if he won that bet. It would be sad to lose a bet with yourself.
#244 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 11:38 pm |
Oh, and I think the ’spit’ is gum.
#245 by Minna H. on 04.25.07 11:43 pm |
C.N. said:
I’m going to go with C.N. on this one. If I collected caps, I would buy any I thought I liked except for teams I hate, i.e., the Yankees. Huh, I originally typed that as ‘the Wankees’. Funny Freudian slip.
#246 by Mr. Met on 04.25.07 11:55 pm |
Minna H. said:
Just saw the pic, and realized Polamalu’s wearing some nice uni pants. I wonder if those are going to be new for this year, or whether it’s an old pair? It has the old-school NFL shield (instead of the newer “NFL Equipment” monstrosity), but that Reebok logo is unlike any I’ve ever seen. Usually they go with a plain vector and rectangle instead of that fancy job……
#247 by Minna H. on 04.26.07 12:01 am |
Mr. Met said:
Funny. I never even noticed the pants–I was hyp-motized by his beautiful hair. Let me do a little Troy P. research, just for you, Mr. Met. Hey, no need to thank me. It’s the least I can do because you gave me the laugh of the day. Ice cream man cap. Yup. Still funny.
#248 by Minna H. on 04.26.07 12:34 am |
From Gene W. on ESPN (listing his picks for mocking the draft).:
With the No. 8 selection, I mock … the onstage photo op.
It takes about a nanosecond for the NFL to start the marketing process of a first-round pick. Player gets call from team … player leaves Green Room for stage … player is handed NFL-approved baseball cap … player must wear $24.99 cap with $3,499 tailored Armani suit … player looks like idiot; player’s fashion consultant weeps in fitting room … player shakes hands with Goodell and helps hold up NFL-approved jersey with, sigh, No. 1 number. That’s why I wish Joe Thomas would have come to the draft. He could have worn a fishing bucket hat with lures stuck through the sides.
I am cut-and-pasting because my posts with ESPN links don’t go through.
#249 by Brendan on 04.26.07 1:16 am |
Mizuno has the same thing for Japanese teams.
#250 by Metsfan AZ on 04.26.07 1:41 am |
Cool discussion on the caps of other teams thing. Good point by Mike Engle there, I can almost accept wearing a cool throwback, e.g. Expos, Brewers, etc.
One other thing that I thought of, has anyone run into a siutation where they play for or their kids play for a team named after a hated rival? I’m sure this has come up with Little League usually naming their teams after MLB teams. Last fall, my son’s first year of T-ball he played for the “Cardinals”. Not a hated rival but the timing couldn’t have been worse. I feel personally responsible for the early exit from last year’s playoffs. I didn’t wear the cap just a generic red shirt and I think that was bad enough.
#251 by Minna H. on 04.26.07 2:05 am |
Metsfan AZ said:
Shame on you. SHAME!
Just kidding. I think it’s important to support your son, no matter what cap or jersey you have to wear to do so.
#252 by Mark in Shiga on 04.26.07 6:17 am |
I had to play for the hated Cardinals as a Little Leaguer, too!
It’s too bad abot those gray hats disappearing so quickly. I really liked them, though they look bizarre when the team’s jersey has pinstripes but the hat doesn’t, like with the Pirates.
And Minna, this $3.50 for Chimay is in the lowest priced stores! In a restaurant it would be Y900, or over seven dollars. Taxes on alcohol (and cigarettes) are low here, but the high euro is making imports really expensive. Japan is pretty bizarre — in the vending machines near me, a 12-ounce can of Coke is Y120 ($1.00), which feels like an outrage, but a reinforced aluminum can of hot tea is the same price, as is generic beer, and both of those feel like bargains. I think if they started selling hot drinks in cans in the US, they could charge a dollar apiece easily.