My God in heaven. The Pirates are going to look like a bunch of ketchup bottles when they wear those. (Maybe that was the plan. Isn’t Heinz headquartered in Pittsburgh?)
Equally nasty-looking is the completely gratuitous red stretchy-thing over Sanchez’s ear on his BP hat. They had such a classic, timeless look going with the black and gold. Why piss all over it? DITCH THE RED!!!
I lived through the Cleveland Indians and their tomato phase (Boog Powell looked positively absurd in those things), and the jersey LaRoche is wearing isn’t quite the second coming, but close.
Red is a tricky one. Leave it to the St. Louis Cardinals, and the Cardinals alone to do it right. Even the Reds have plenty to learn about it.
Why is Duke rocking the old cap? It looks like Jackie Wilson and that horrible red thing (the jersey/hat/La Roache combo) are the new ones . . . So is the away cap still grey billed? Or is this just another case of poor planning?
Vests are fine, but that red is absurd. If the Pirates were going to make any sort of uniform change, they should bring back one of the awesome ensembles from the early 70s- yellow hats and all.
Wow. I’m speechless. I always thought I’d never see a red uni I didn’t like. It’s my favorite color. I thought it was idiot proof. I love it when the Braves wear red. I even like those orange Bears unis.
And then…this happened.
And what is with the splash of red over the ear on the cap on the right? (Batting practice cap?) That is equally as silly.
Good thing our boy ranked us in Pittsburgh #5 before this red thing came out! Not that I don’t like it…we need more than black & gold around here!!! And I kinda liked the Indians’ red shirts! (maybe not on the Boog though; and not the red pants). These red shirts are probably only for Friday nights; the other uniforms stay the same.
Wow, what do they call that flare thing over the ears? It looked bad when it wasn’t on a player, I was hoping they would make it look better but the reverse has happened. This story might need more than just an open thread.
I guess the Bucs will blind opponents onward to victory. Ok, who are we kidding? But the red is really bad. Also the new BP hat/jersey designs suck. But MLB will tell us they’re innovate and better for the players as sheep fans drop millions. Marketing geniuses.
Being a lifetime Pittsburgh fan, I must say that this jersey is horrible. I’d like to put an idea out there – why don’t ‘classic’ teams, like the Pirates, make their third jersey their original jersey? The Bucs used to be red white and blue. Just for something different – which is what they are looking for anyway.
Sort of like how the San Diego Chargers go back to their powder blue jerseys once in a while. I personally like to see the throwbacks, but not the really weird and obscure ones. Think about how different it would be…The Penguins in powder blue, the Bills with white helmets, and so on… anyone else like this idea?
I don’t think the new alts are THAT bad, but by no means they aren’t great. But i do like the Pirates going back to red because i’ve always been a fan of the red-billed hats.
Also, the new BP hats are all going to look horrible for every team.
I don’t mind the red jerseys. I really like the red-billed hats. I hate the BP hats.
Are teams required to wear those? I don’t think I’ve ever seen the Yankees wearing their BP hats. (I try not to pay much attention to the Yankees as much as possible, but that’s beside the point.)
And Pirates fans wonder why God continues to punish them season after season…but seriously, when was red even introduced as a color for the Pirates? I remember they had the red-billed cap a few years ago, but now it gets an entire jersey? I liked the pinstriped vests they had before, but I’m kind of with Rich, vests suck, especially when that’s ALL you have. Fine as an alternate, but at least put one jersey on the field that has sleeves.
I guess we don’t have enough teams in the NL wearing a red/black uni (Hou Arz Cin), but the Pirates missed a huge opportunity to have a retro looking YELLOW alt uni. I’m sure fans would of loved it, but when you’ve got people running the Pirates the way they are you understand why they havn’t won jack since the early 90s.
As for the BP caps, yes they look horrible. I once again ask myself and fellow uniwatch readers, why do we need BP caps in the first place?
So combine a few of the ideas presented here: Can the tomato soup and make the alternates Willie Stargell 70’s throwbacks, complete with the gold caps w/ black bills.
The plan, according to MLB’s style guide, is to wear these red things with their home white pants.
To review: black cap, red vest, black sleeves, white pants.
The vitriol here on the UniWatch board is pretty loud. And it should be. Now go do something with it: the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has a poll on the new red jersey.
It’s fairly disingenuous of the Pirates to bleat on and on about the Buccos’ team colors being black, gold and red. Yes, red dates back to Honus Wagner’s days (when it was paired with navy or royal blue). But the only reason it’s an “official” color now is the club’s late ’90s desperation to sell more gear. That’s when red was shoehorned into the Pirates by-then classic black-and-gold scheme.
Then again, find me one team rep talking about a uniform, color or logo change who isn’t disingenuous.
Red is overused. It seems that all new alternate jerseys are either red or black. It is like those are the only colors available for alternate jerseys. In the NBA, you have teams like the Nets or the Pistons and before them the Raptors that use Red as an alternate jersey. Before these Pirate monstrosities were produced, we had the Braves and the Red Sox alternate reds to name a few. In the NFL, the Texans use a red alternate jersey once in a while. This just furthers the notion that red is way to abundant of a color in sporting events. It is an epidemic that needs to stop.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen the Yankees wearing their BP hats. (I try not to pay much attention to the Yankees as much as possible, but that’s beside the point.)
Yeah the Yankees had BP caps, but they looked like the regular 5950 caps from a distance, only up close could you see the mesh like material. The new Yankee caps have the stupid flaps on the sides and the NY will have a 3-D look to it that you can kinda see on the Pirates BP cap.
Speaking of Heniz, the scoreboard at Heinz Field has two giant (20′ long) ketchup bottles at the top. Whenever the Steelers score, the bottles tilt over and “pour” digital ketchup all over the scoreboard. The radio announcers also refer to the red zone as the “Heinz Ketchup” redzone and the stadium as the mustard palce. I think this may be an attempt by the Pirates to steal some of that enthusiasm for the Pirates. Seriously, no one in Pittsburgh would notice if the Pirates stopped playing in mid-August after the Steelers open training camp.
1st off, I can’t say I hate the the Red uni’s. They could be worse. I think the new BP ones suck so much more. I think the people should be mad the pitt still uses that nasty yellow and black, and I don’t care about the whole city flag thing. They look dumb. When I think Pirates, I think colors other than yellow. But that doesn’t matter. I think there is too much red in MLB anyways. come on, someone tell them that red can go and a new color could come in.
BTW, EK, haven’t seen ya around in a while, WELCOME BACK!!!
Is the pirate with the ladybug on his head on any of the actual unis? or just the BP stuff? That would be a cool sleeve patch IMO.
No, since players can just wear any black undershirt, there are no sleeve patches. Unless there’s a new change for 2007, the Buc head is only on the BP jersey.
Those red Pirate alternates are terrible! Purely awful. And why re-introduce red to an already perfect color scheme & uniform? A red uni with black numbers with a yellow outline? Puke!
Is the pirate with the ladybug on his head on any of the actual unis? or just the BP stuff? That would be a cool sleeve patch IMO.
No, since players can just wear any black undershirt, there are no sleeve patches. Unless there’s a new change for 2007, the Buc head is only on the BP jersey.
hmmm, i thought i had seen vest with sleeve patches before, but i see your point. If someone doens’t want to wear one of the tight fit undershirts they would have to have multiple types of shirts with patches.
good job steel city! 9 out of 10 uni fans HATE what you’ve done! geesh.
those things are gonna drive the Penguins out!
#49 by Brian from Short Island on 01.27.07 1:29 pm |
Hitch said:
Red is overused. It seems that all new alternate jerseys are either red or black. It is like those are the only colors available for alternate jerseys. In the NBA, you have teams like the Nets or the Pistons and before them the Raptors that use Red as an alternate jersey. Before these Pirate monstrosities were produced, we had the Braves and the Red Sox alternate reds to name a few. In the NFL, the Texans use a red alternate jersey once in a while. This just furthers the notion that red is way to abundant of a color in sporting events. It is an epidemic that needs to stop.
The trend in MLS is to move away from red jerseys… Red Bull NY is latest on that boat.
They will probably only wear those red jersies on Sunday afternoon home games, which would be about 13 times. so it’s not the end of the world.
Does anyone know the exact name of that color ? looks like a “dull” type of red. maybe pirate ships used that color to claim victory over their enemies back when Chester Copperpot and One Eyed Willie were sailing the seas.
Yeah, the BP hats look extremely bad. I don’t see why they even changed them, or why they had to change the regular hats in the first place. That flap over the ear makes it look really cheap.
At the same session, you can see the pirate head patch on a sleeve. It’s been on sleeves since they went back to the vests in 2001.
Just on some of them however. Which means it’s either just for the home uni, or it’s the “team issued” undershirt, and players can opt to wear other black shirts if you look through all the pictures. The player wearing the alternate (LaRoche I think) has blank sleeves.
This is unfortunate… as a life long Pirates fan I thought that the team finally had the uniforms right last season with the awesome Sunday pinstripe uni.
I guess the team did all right because they didn’t get rid the awesome home and away uniforms.
Wow, I guess I’m the only person who LIKES the new Pirates jerseys. Red and gold match wonderfully.
Not crazy about the BP hats though…that ear thing is just weird.
i love the color combination. i think it really looks together.
is the distaste (read, hatred) for this uni update based on the fact that an arbitrary color, red, was added, or do you folks just think that black, yellow, and red dont go together?
Wow, I guess I’m the only person who LIKES the new Pirates jerseys. Red and gold match wonderfully.
Not crazy about the BP hats though…that ear thing is just weird.
i love the color combination. i think it really looks together.
is the distaste (read, hatred) for this uni update based on the fact that an arbitrary color, red, was added, or do you folks just think that black, yellow, and red dont go together?
Well i think that the red just doesn’t look good on this type of uni. I think the best alternate uniform the pirates had was there last one here This one was dropped last season. The Pirates are only going to wear the red unis on Friday games so hopefully we won’t see to much of this
I can swallow the pill of a bad looking uniform if it means the team will stop losing
In this case I love the Red alt. jersey! While the black and gold is pure pirates, the red brings it out without sacrificing those colors, though it is a little loud.
Indeed an original color combination with the yellow and black. And this is probably the best looking “vest” in the Majors (it beats the Rockies’ purple or the Twins’ striped pixie-vest), which is not saying a whole lot.
Also, the Pirates’ typography makes anything look good.
This is unfortunate… as a life long Pirates fan I thought that the team finally had the uniforms right last season with the awesome Sunday pinstripe uni.
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Andrew said:
This is unfortunate… as a life long Pirates fan I thought that the team finally had the uniforms right last season with the awesome Sunday pinstripe uni.
I guess the team did all right because they didn’t get rid the awesome home and away uniforms.
You are absolutely right. The pinstripe unis looked great and should have been the new home ones. That red thing is a monstrosity. I weep for the city of Pittsburgh.
I think we need a new topic. How bout suggestions for which NFL teams need a make-over, and how.
My list:
1. Miami- get rid of the dark blue from the color scheme. This goes for everyone:no team should have more than two primary colors (other than white)!!!! Also ditch the drop shadows. (all drop shadows on all sports uniforms are crap)
Indeed an original color combination with the yellow and black. And this is probably the best looking “vest†in the Majors (it beats the Rockies’ purple or the Twins’ striped pixie-vest), which is not saying a whole lot.
Wait, how can this be the best looking vest when the Pirates already have a white and gray vest that doesn’t look like crap?
i about shit myself when i saw those on the front page of the local sports section. blahh!!! i mean, i knew they were adding red to their alternates this year, but i didnt know they were going to be ALL RED. ew!
Wow, I guess I’m the only person who LIKES the new Pirates jerseys. Red and gold match wonderfully.
Not crazy about the BP hats though…that ear thing is just weird.
i love the color combination. i think it really looks together.
is the distaste (read, hatred) for this uni update based on the fact that an arbitrary color, red, was added, or do you folks just think that black, yellow, and red dont go together?
I think we need a new topic. How bout suggestions for which NFL teams need a make-over, and how.
My list:
1. Miami- get rid of the dark blue from the color scheme. This goes for everyone:no team should have more than two primary colors (other than white)!!!! Also ditch the drop shadows. (all drop shadows on all sports uniforms are crap)
3. Ravens, Jags, Bengals, and Saints–no more all black ensembles. This is the NFL, not the XFL.
4.Redskins- come up with a system of when to wear the burgundy pants vs. the white. Like this for home, and this on the road.
5. Titans- make these and these the primary uniforms instead of the alternates.
This is apparently not a subject that can be changed. Oh, the horror! Oh, the humanity!
Seriously, if one of my kids ever eats a poison mushroom or drinks a gallon of Clorox, I’ll show him the picture at the top of the thread. More effective than ipecac. Same color, too.
I think we need a new topic. How bout suggestions for which NFL teams need a make-over, and how.
My list:
1. Miami- get rid of the dark blue from the color scheme. This goes for everyone:no team should have more than two primary colors (other than white)!!!! Also ditch the drop shadows. (all drop shadows on all sports uniforms are crap)
3. Ravens, Jags, Bengals, and Saints–no more all black ensembles. This is the NFL, not the XFL.
4.Redskins- come up with a system of when to wear the burgundy pants vs. the white. Like this for home, and this on the road.
5. Titans- make these and these the primary uniforms instead of the alternates.
The 49ers jerseys are fine, as long as they wear their throwbacks twice a year. The Bengal’s jerseys are fine also. The only major NFL change that I think needs to happen is a new Lion’s logo. Nothing looks more intimidating than a kitten on the side of the helmet.
Maybe solid block bright red just doesn’t work in baseball. Maybe any solid block bright color isn’t best for baseball. After all, in no other sport is the secondary uniform so regularly gray. They closely resemble BP jerseys here, and the less of that the better, goes the opinion in these parts.
Red, yellow and black? Makes me long for the old MetroStars, or even the hoops of the real old school Ft. Lauderdale Strikers. If that’s the goal, mission accomplished.
This post kinda sucks as I have neither a picture nor a name, but I was just watching the Senior Bowl and due to a bone jarring hit by Miami’s Brandon Meriweather, one of the North’s wide receivers had about half of the front of his jersey torn off
I heard from my baseball insider that MLB is coming out with a new BP hat that all the teams will be wearing, and it can be all yours for a mere 32 bucks.
You gotta be kidding me, I wouldn’t wear that if you paid me to.
Also, uniform aside, what the hell is on Laroche’s face? I looked like 20 packets of ketchup exploded on his chin.
Hey all. Im watching the Notre Dame/ Nova game and noticed a little patch above Villanova’s name on their jersey. ANyone know what it is. It looks like two lines or the number 11 but there is also an 11 on the court so i dont think its a tribute
The Pirates must change their uniforms more than any other team in baseball. It just shows how cash strapped they are. The alternate jersey is just a sign of deperation. I can’t even be angry. It is just sad especially because the non pinstripe vest in white or grey is a near perfect uniform. (Vests and pinstripes should never be put together.)The Pirates never need to redo their uniforms except to saturate the market with a new product. Oh wait, that is the point; sad.
Vests suck. They don’t belong as a baseball uniform
No way! What about the video of Bill Mazeroski circling the bases for his walk-off home run to win the 1960 World Series? Any time I see pictures of Roberto Clemente, he’s wearing the classic Pirates vest uniform.
So the new ketchup jersey sucks, but the Pirates have some of the classiest unis out there! Think of the Jays. Think of the D-Backs. The Bucs have (or had?) some uniform dignity.
In that second picture, my eyes were drawn away from the red (which was probably a poor choice) by the fact that everyone HAD THEIR JERSEYS UNTUCKED! If you’re going to do an official unveiling at least try to look…you know…official.
Jeff said:
Has anyone noticed H.B. Blades and Tyler Palko are wearing a throwback Pitt Logo and stripes during the senior bowl????
hehe…H.B. Blades. That dude would fit so well into the XFL based on his name alone. I hope those initals end up on the back of whatever NFL uni he wears.
Does anyone else hate how all the super bowl stuff has ’south florida’ instead of ‘miami’ on it?
Yes. Silly little things like that are why I’m a college football fan and not an NFL guy.
If the NFL ran things the way college football does, #1 San Diego would be facing #2 Baltimore in the Tostitos BCS World Championship game presented by AT&T. I’ll take a real title game with “South Florida” than colleges “championship” any day.
I said it once, and I’ll say it again. I like the red vest, though I agree the cap on the right has gotta go. That makes three of us who like the red vests—definite minority.
Sportscenter just showed a shot of Syracuse’s Demitrius Nichols (sp?) shooting his warmups and sporting his iPod headphones. I know this is outlawed in the NBA, but I suppose it’s a school-to-school decision at the college level.
Islanders are wearing a vintage 1972 blue jersey tonight. Same crest, but royal blue instead of current navy. Numbers and letters are orange with white trim. Also, the bottom of the jersey has a really thick orange and white stripes separated by a strip of blue.
Islanders are wearing a vintage 1972 blue jersey tonight. Same crest, but royal blue instead of current navy. Numbers and letters are orange with white trim. Also, the bottom of the jersey has a really thick orange and white stripes separated by a strip of blue.
However, all players are wearing helmets tonight!
Also, they are lace up in the front – white laces.
Those red alts themselves aren’t that bad. I’ve seen worse (Florida black alt). But the red brimmed hat has got to go. But the red trim wasn’t even necessary for one of the best baseball color schemes (yellow and black).
I don’t know about you, but the Chicago Bears’ all-blue ensemble they put on for Green Bay several weeks ago looked really sharp to me. I’m kind of hoping to see again in the Super Bowl, or even the orange alts. I’ve always liked to see teams wear alts for big games (like Cal in yellow in the Holiday Bowl).
Does anyone else hate how all the super bowl stuff has ’south florida’ instead of ‘miami’ on it?
Yes. Silly little things like that are why I’m a college football fan and not an NFL guy.
A reflection of the suburbanization of our culture; it’s why, over 10 years ago, MLB added the Colorado Rockies and the Florida Marlins.
Technically Dolphin Stadium is in something called Miami Gardens, Florida.[/quote]
Oh, so you’re one of those types who would prefer the name “Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim” to just “Los Angeles Angels” simply because they’re actually in Anaheim? (And yes, calling them the “Anaheim Angels” would be the best possible solution, but we all know that’s not happening any time soon.)
Islanders are wearing a vintage 1972 blue jersey tonight. Same crest, but royal blue instead of current navy. Numbers and letters are orange with white trim. Also, the bottom of the jersey has a really thick orange and white stripes separated by a strip of blue.
However, all players are wearing helmets tonight!
Also, they are lace up in the front – white laces.
1972 jerseys look sweet. It wouldn’t bother me if they went back to the royal blue and ditched the navy blue.
Retro jerseys (which were road jerseys in 1972-73) aren’t totally historically accurate though. In ‘72, Isles didn’t have players names on the jerseys. And they didn’t have a Reebok logo on the back either. Plus the players are still wearing the navy helmets. Kinda looks silly up close.
Another cool side note: Isles trainer wearing what looks like a royal blue retro warm-up jacket.
Does anyone else hate how all the super bowl stuff has ’south florida’ instead of ‘miami’ on it?
Yes. Silly little things like that are why I’m a college football fan and not an NFL guy.
If the NFL ran things the way college football does, #1 San Diego would be facing #2 Baltimore in the Tostitos BCS World Championship game presented by AT&T. I’ll take a real title game with “South Florida” than colleges “championship” any day.
Yeah, and if the NFL ran things the way college football does, late-season games would actually mean something, across the board.
Those red alts themselves aren’t that bad. I’ve seen worse (Florida black alt). But the red brimmed hat has got to go. But the red trim wasn’t even necessary for one of the best baseball color schemes (yellow and black).
I don’t know about you, but the Chicago Bears’ all-blue ensemble they put on for Green Bay several weeks ago looked really sharp to me. I’m kind of hoping to see again in the Super Bowl, or even the orange alts. I’ve always liked to see teams wear alts for big games (like Cal in yellow in the Holiday Bowl).
I think in big games you should let your play do the talking, not your uniforms. Remember what happened with Oregon in their bowl game. And Cal wears their yellow so much now, it can hardly be considered a true alternate. And gosh, no, don’t ask for the Bears to wear all-blue in the Super Bowl. Remember Seattle last year?
Has anyone noticed H.B. Blades and Tyler Palko are wearing a throwback Pitt Logo and stripes during the senior bowl????
Yes!!!!
yeah i noticed too. I remember after Pitt had a throwback game last year, Palko and most of the team stated that they liked the throwbacks a lot better. There are a lot of people trying to get the Pitt script back. Palko and Blades were probably just showing their support and did it to send a message to the athletic department. I personally would love to for pitt to go back to the Pitt script.
It’s real hard to get the “retro feel” though, when the Isles are rocking out the 72-73 threads and Buffalo has on their brand new, and in my opinion, atrocious looking, road jersey. The 1972-73 Home Sabres jersey would’ve fit the bill much nicer. Oh well.
The Isles keep putting up a graphic showing current players and their jersey number and who wore that number in 72-73.
Little trivia.. What number did the Isles issue in 72-73 that was worn by one player, then no other for the history of the franchise?
Has the P always been larger than the IRATES? Maybe I just never noticed before. And does it look like the letters get smaller from left to right (aside from the P)? It’s probably the picture…or maybe I’m just looking for more reasons to dislike that jersey.
1972 jerseys look sweet. It wouldn’t bother me if they went back to the royal blue and ditched the navy blue.
I agree about going back to lighter blue, but the numbers are hard to read on TV. I’ve seen them tons of times in photos, and thought they’d be awesome to go back to, but TV isn’t being kind to the blue sweater / orange number package.
1972 jerseys look sweet. It wouldn’t bother me if they went back to the royal blue and ditched the navy blue.
I agree about going back to lighter blue, but the numbers are hard to read on TV.
I’ve seen them tons of times in photos, and thought they’d be awesome to go back to, but TV isn’t being kind to the blue sweater / orange number package.
You’re right. Names are tough to read. And the font on the names looks a little cartoonish when you see it up close. They should’ve left the names off. Still, if they offer these up for sale, count me in to pick one up.
Little trivia.. What number did the Isles issue in 72-73 that was worn by one player, then no other for the history of the franchise?
Gotta be Billy Smith or Bobby Ny. Both were “original Islanders” who had their numbers retired. I’m almost certain that Bobby Nystrom came up part way through the first year, which means Smitty’s 31 would be your answer.
Both were “original Islanders” who had their numbers retired. I’m almost certain that Bobby Nystrom came up part way through the first year, which means Smitty’s 31 would be your answer.
Does anyone know how long Michael Redd of the Milwaukee Bucks has been wearing a captain’s “C” on his jersey. I’m sure this hasn’t gone unnoticed and Paul has probably mentioned it before. I was just curious. Here’s the link if your interested. I’m not really good with the direct link so you’re gonna have to copy an paste:
What drives me nuts about the Pirates’ uniforms is not the red but the rediculous number 7 than they’ve been using ever since they brought back the vests. It looks like a 2 with the base cut off. What, are they so strapped for cash they they can’t pay a font designer to do all the digits? They need to sharpen the upper left corner, or both the upper left and upper right corners.
They should have brought in a black vest instead of red. Black has been a Pittsburgh color for years and looks much more natural on them than it does on, say, the Mets.
I could maybe get into this red jersey if they wore black pants with it. Otherwise you’ve got a red shirt and a black undershirt and white pants. Clownish.
Islanders are wearing a vintage 1972 blue jersey tonight. Same crest, but royal blue instead of current navy. Numbers and letters are orange with white trim. Also, the bottom of the jersey has a really thick orange and white stripes separated by a strip of blue.
However, all players are wearing helmets tonight!
Also, they are lace up in the front – white laces.
1972 jerseys look sweet. It wouldn’t bother me if they went back to the royal blue and ditched the navy blue.
Retro jerseys (which were road jerseys in 1972-73) aren’t totally historically accurate though. In ‘72, Isles didn’t have players names on the jerseys. And they didn’t have a Reebok logo on the back either. Plus the players are still wearing the navy helmets. Kinda looks silly up close.
Another cool side note: Isles trainer wearing what looks like a royal blue retro warm-up jacket.
I think we need a new topic. How bout suggestions for which NFL teams need a make-over, and how.
My list:
1. Miami- get rid of the dark blue from the color scheme. This goes for everyone:no team should have more than two primary colors (other than white)!!!! Also ditch the drop shadows. (all drop shadows on all sports uniforms are crap)
3. Ravens, Jags, Bengals, and Saints–no more all black ensembles. This is the NFL, not the XFL.
4.Redskins- come up with a system of when to wear the burgundy pants vs. the white. Like this for home, and this on the road.
5. Titans- make these and these the primary uniforms instead of the alternates.
As a die hard Titan fan, I would hate to see those as primary. The Tar Hell Blue should not be the primary. The navy looks so much better. I also hate the Tar Heel Pants.
The Pirates should stick with black and gold, just like everybody else in Pittsburgh but the red bills look excellent. But the jerseys are horrendus.
Add me to the list of people who doesnt think the pirate’s uni’s are that bad…maybe its cause those are my high school’s colors, but i dont think its as bad as some of you are making it out to be
I’m loving that font! I’ve also never seen anything like it. I wish they would use it all the time.
I’ve never been fond of the plaint font the Isles currently have, which they started using in the 1984 playoffs. Before that, player names had an outline/border which mirrored the numbers on the jersey.
I usually don’t check out the weekend open threads, but I had to see this one once I heard about the Pirates’ unveiling. You guys didn’t disappoint. Whoa, baby.
the isles looked fantastic tonight! LOVE the laceup. LOVE the royal blue. LOVE the orange numbers and letters.
the reason they originally wore royal blue and orange was because those are the colors of the nassau county flag, and it HAS to return. they went to the navy after they changed back to the current style after the fishsticks days. i have a feeling it was just so that people had to buy new jerseys and not just break out their old ones pre-fishsticks.
Those red alts themselves aren’t that bad. I’ve seen worse (Florida black alt). But the red brimmed hat has got to go. But the red trim wasn’t even necessary for one of the best baseball color schemes (yellow and black).
I don’t know about you, but the Chicago Bears’ all-blue ensemble they put on for Green Bay several weeks ago looked really sharp to me. I’m kind of hoping to see again in the Super Bowl, or even the orange alts. I’ve always liked to see teams wear alts for big games (like Cal in yellow in the Holiday Bowl).
I think in big games you should let your play do the talking, not your uniforms. Remember what happened with Oregon in their bowl game. And Cal wears their yellow so much now, it can hardly be considered a true alternate. And gosh, no, don’t ask for the Bears to wear all-blue in the Super Bowl. Remember Seattle last year?
Not that I’m a fan of Cal or their yellow jerseys, but I live in the Bay Area and can only remember them wearing the yellow jerseys twice – once during the regular season, and again in the bowl game. I hardly see how that’s wearing them “so much”.
Those Red Pirates unis kinda remind me of the current Calgary Flames jerseys. Which seems to work for hockey, but doesn’t seem to work for a baseball team called ‘Pirates.’
As for the comments about the 49ers… put me down as 1 vote for switching back to the classic 80’s uniforms permanently. Better red, no black, muted gold, and STRIPES on the socks. Word is that Nolan is trying to get them to switch back, here’s hoping he succeeds.
I realize I’m a day late here, but I’m of the opinion that baseball jersey vests should always be in white or grey, with the undershirt in the team’s primary color. It looks too much like a high school summer league game when you start mixing like the Pirates are planning to do.
It’s surprising to see them drop the Sunday pinstripe unis, I thought those were great alternates.
Check out the 2nd picture in this set, Arron Asham’s really getting into the spirit of Throwback Night!
I must say I like these better than the pumpkin sweaters they usually wear on Saturday nights.
As for the Isles’ main color, I have no problem with either the royal or navy blue, just don’t screw around with the horizontal striping for next season. I think it’s a classic, classy look.
The red is hidious. I thought theylearned the lesson from a few years ago. The Pirates should incorporate the hat that they wore in 72-75 yellow with the black bill into their scheme. That would be classy.
Having spent the entire weekend working at PirateFest, I have to say that the fans here seem to like the new jerseys, judging by how many are not only being bought, but also worn. Personally, I like the idea, just not the execution. I think red, black and gold is too much, and they should’ve made the red jersey with sleeves. The pinstripes are still there, meaning the Bucs have four uniforms, but three are for home (it’s my understanding that only the grays will be road unis; red will be for home Fridays).
Of course it’s a marketing ploy, but EVERY team does it. None can be excluded from criticism, and that includes the Yankees, who may not wear anything but pinstripes and basic gray, but they don’t shy away from licensing apparel in hideous shades of pink, baby blue, tan, green, etc. And people buy them.
As a long-suffering Bucs fan, I wouldn’t mind if they dressed like the ‘76 White Sox if it meant they’d still be in contention after September first!
Also, every time I see a red alt., the first thing that pops into my head is Olbermann shouting “Dairy Queen!” during a Twins highlight a bunch of years back on Sportscenter, referring to Minnesota’s softball-esque red Sunday jersey.
That said, maybe I’ve just gotten used to the color, but I really don’t mind the red jersey as much as I thought I would (maybe, as someone said, it’s the yellow highlights that save it for me). And I totally dig the red-billed cap…I sill have one from a few years back, but it’s fitted and a little on the tight side for my huge noggin.
I dunno, as a follower (and wearer) of all things Pittsburgh, I might be that I’m just a little psyched to have a splash of color other than black and gold in the mix. Don’t get me wrong…I love that all the ‘Burgh’s teams feature the same colors…but variety is the spice of life!
Does anyone else hate how all the super bowl stuff has ’south florida’ instead of ‘miami’ on it?
Yes. Silly little things like that are why I’m a college football fan and not an NFL guy.
If the NFL ran things the way college football does, #1 San Diego would be facing #2 Baltimore in the Tostitos BCS World Championship game presented by AT&T. I’ll take a real title game with “South Florida” than colleges “championship” any day.
Yeah, and if the NFL ran things the way college football does, late-season games would actually mean something, across the board.
Huh?
There were playoff implications for a record # of teams this season going into week 17!
I like the red alternates (im a man who isnt afraid of color). It brings some character into the EVER SO BORING world of Baseball uniforms. But the Pirates new spring training/practice cap has to go! I LOVE ALL BLACK NFL UNI’s!!! Saints, Jaguars, Ravens…it looks good guys! Drop shadows on the numbers looks good too! What i cant stand is the all the satin/glimmery broadway queer flash that all the NBA jerseys have now! they ruined the Chicago Bulls Jerseys with the glossyness! AND CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THE WIZARDS ALTERNATE JERSEYS?!?!?!! They look like bathing suits from 1923!!!!
Red, black, and gold is the nicest 3-color combo in the color spectrum. I’m thrilled that they brought this back in such a big way. I can’t believe so many people are complaining about it.
#1 by Ken on 01.27.07 10:41 am |
My God the red alts are horrendous.
#2 by Proud Canuck on 01.27.07 10:42 am |
I’m curious as to what color pants go with that red jersey…
#3 by Andy from KC on 01.27.07 10:46 am |
My God in heaven. The Pirates are going to look like a bunch of ketchup bottles when they wear those. (Maybe that was the plan. Isn’t Heinz headquartered in Pittsburgh?)
Equally nasty-looking is the completely gratuitous red stretchy-thing over Sanchez’s ear on his BP hat. They had such a classic, timeless look going with the black and gold. Why piss all over it? DITCH THE RED!!!
#4 by Miguel on 01.27.07 10:52 am |
Proud Canuck said:
Yellow, hopefully. That would complete the hideous ensemble.
#5 by Mike Kole on 01.27.07 10:53 am |
I lived through the Cleveland Indians and their tomato phase (Boog Powell looked positively absurd in those things), and the jersey LaRoche is wearing isn’t quite the second coming, but close.
Red is a tricky one. Leave it to the St. Louis Cardinals, and the Cardinals alone to do it right. Even the Reds have plenty to learn about it.
#6 by John on 01.27.07 10:54 am |
Why is Duke rocking the old cap? It looks like Jackie Wilson and that horrible red thing (the jersey/hat/La Roache combo) are the new ones . . . So is the away cap still grey billed? Or is this just another case of poor planning?
#7 by Randy Miller on 01.27.07 11:10 am |
The red uni looks like a hot dog cart exploded…
#8 by Matthew P on 01.27.07 11:12 am |
Even Captain Jack Sparrow threw up in his mouth.
#9 by ChrisM70 on 01.27.07 11:16 am |
Those uniforms are making me feel sick.
My sympathies to the people of Pittsburgh.
First the Penguins threaten to move, and now this.
Shameful.
#10 by Metsfan AZ on 01.27.07 11:18 am |
They could be worse… but I’m not sure how. At least they’re not purple and yellow? I don’t know, I’m reaching here…
#11 by Kyle O. on 01.27.07 11:18 am |
Those batting practice hats are miserable…. for all teams. Who decided on that crap
#12 by ChrisM70 on 01.27.07 11:19 am |
The guy in the middle looks like a McDonald’s employee…
I am NOT lovin’ it!
#13 by Rich on 01.27.07 11:26 am |
Vests suck. They don’t belong as a baseball uniform
#14 by James on 01.27.07 11:30 am |
Look kids! Focus testing just threw up on Adam LaRoche!
#15 by GentleWhoadie9000 on 01.27.07 11:34 am |
Vests are fine, but that red is absurd. If the Pirates were going to make any sort of uniform change, they should bring back one of the awesome ensembles from the early 70s- yellow hats and all.
#16 by Swift on 01.27.07 11:36 am |
Wow. I’m speechless. I always thought I’d never see a red uni I didn’t like. It’s my favorite color. I thought it was idiot proof. I love it when the Braves wear red. I even like those orange Bears unis.
And then…this happened.
And what is with the splash of red over the ear on the cap on the right? (Batting practice cap?) That is equally as silly.
Yuck.
#17 by PaulB on 01.27.07 11:46 am |
Good thing our boy ranked us in Pittsburgh #5 before this red thing came out! Not that I don’t like it…we need more than black & gold around here!!! And I kinda liked the Indians’ red shirts! (maybe not on the Boog though; and not the red pants). These red shirts are probably only for Friday nights; the other uniforms stay the same.
#18 by Charlie on 01.27.07 11:51 am |
This just in, the Steelers are going to have a blue and a red alternate uniform next year, to match the diamonds in the helmet
#19 by Ben on 01.27.07 11:55 am |
Wow, what do they call that flare thing over the ears? It looked bad when it wasn’t on a player, I was hoping they would make it look better but the reverse has happened. This story might need more than just an open thread.
#20 by Andrew on 01.27.07 11:59 am |
I guess the Bucs will blind opponents onward to victory. Ok, who are we kidding? But the red is really bad. Also the new BP hat/jersey designs suck. But MLB will tell us they’re innovate and better for the players as sheep fans drop millions. Marketing geniuses.
#21 by Tony The Tiger on 01.27.07 12:02 pm |
Being a lifetime Pittsburgh fan, I must say that this jersey is horrible. I’d like to put an idea out there – why don’t ‘classic’ teams, like the Pirates, make their third jersey their original jersey? The Bucs used to be red white and blue. Just for something different – which is what they are looking for anyway.
Sort of like how the San Diego Chargers go back to their powder blue jerseys once in a while. I personally like to see the throwbacks, but not the really weird and obscure ones. Think about how different it would be…The Penguins in powder blue, the Bills with white helmets, and so on… anyone else like this idea?
#22 by ngruz25 on 01.27.07 12:02 pm |
Wow, I guess I’m the only person who LIKES the new Pirates jerseys. Red and gold match wonderfully.
Not crazy about the BP hats though…that ear thing is just weird.
#23 by Eric G. on 01.27.07 12:04 pm |
What. Are. Those?
#24 by Nick on 01.27.07 12:14 pm |
I don’t think the new alts are THAT bad, but by no means they aren’t great. But i do like the Pirates going back to red because i’ve always been a fan of the red-billed hats.
Also, the new BP hats are all going to look horrible for every team.
Let’s Go Bucs!
#25 by J at The Dundies on 01.27.07 12:15 pm |
Oh, god. Those red ones are hideous. You’re in Pittsburgh! Green and gold. That’s all youre allowed.
#26 by Marc on 01.27.07 12:16 pm |
apparently it coincides with the “Redd Up” Initiative started to clean up the city for the All Star game. Just an odd color choice, very bold.
Looks like they’ll be worn for Friday home games
#27 by Big Green on 01.27.07 12:18 pm |
W…T…F?
#28 by Adam on 01.27.07 12:32 pm |
I don’t mind the red jerseys. I really like the red-billed hats. I hate the BP hats.
Are teams required to wear those? I don’t think I’ve ever seen the Yankees wearing their BP hats. (I try not to pay much attention to the Yankees as much as possible, but that’s beside the point.)
#29 by Luke on 01.27.07 12:33 pm |
And Pirates fans wonder why God continues to punish them season after season…but seriously, when was red even introduced as a color for the Pirates? I remember they had the red-billed cap a few years ago, but now it gets an entire jersey? I liked the pinstriped vests they had before, but I’m kind of with Rich, vests suck, especially when that’s ALL you have. Fine as an alternate, but at least put one jersey on the field that has sleeves.
#30 by Brandon on 01.27.07 12:38 pm |
I guess we don’t have enough teams in the NL wearing a red/black uni (Hou Arz Cin), but the Pirates missed a huge opportunity to have a retro looking YELLOW alt uni. I’m sure fans would of loved it, but when you’ve got people running the Pirates the way they are you understand why they havn’t won jack since the early 90s.
As for the BP caps, yes they look horrible. I once again ask myself and fellow uniwatch readers, why do we need BP caps in the first place?
#31 by Matthew P on 01.27.07 12:40 pm |
So combine a few of the ideas presented here: Can the tomato soup and make the alternates Willie Stargell 70’s throwbacks, complete with the gold caps w/ black bills.
#32 by Scott Turner on 01.27.07 12:42 pm |
The plan, according to MLB’s style guide, is to wear these red things with their home white pants.
To review: black cap, red vest, black sleeves, white pants.
The vitriol here on the UniWatch board is pretty loud. And it should be. Now go do something with it: the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette has a poll on the new red jersey.
It’s fairly disingenuous of the Pirates to bleat on and on about the Buccos’ team colors being black, gold and red. Yes, red dates back to Honus Wagner’s days (when it was paired with navy or royal blue). But the only reason it’s an “official” color now is the club’s late ’90s desperation to sell more gear. That’s when red was shoehorned into the Pirates by-then classic black-and-gold scheme.
Then again, find me one team rep talking about a uniform, color or logo change who isn’t disingenuous.
#33 by Hitch on 01.27.07 12:46 pm |
Red is overused. It seems that all new alternate jerseys are either red or black. It is like those are the only colors available for alternate jerseys. In the NBA, you have teams like the Nets or the Pistons and before them the Raptors that use Red as an alternate jersey. Before these Pirate monstrosities were produced, we had the Braves and the Red Sox alternate reds to name a few. In the NFL, the Texans use a red alternate jersey once in a while. This just furthers the notion that red is way to abundant of a color in sporting events. It is an epidemic that needs to stop.
#34 by Brandon on 01.27.07 12:46 pm |
Adam said:
Yeah the Yankees had BP caps, but they looked like the regular 5950 caps from a distance, only up close could you see the mesh like material. The new Yankee caps have the stupid flaps on the sides and the NY will have a 3-D look to it that you can kinda see on the Pirates BP cap.
#35 by Jason on 01.27.07 12:52 pm |
Speaking of Heniz, the scoreboard at Heinz Field has two giant (20′ long) ketchup bottles at the top. Whenever the Steelers score, the bottles tilt over and “pour” digital ketchup all over the scoreboard. The radio announcers also refer to the red zone as the “Heinz Ketchup” redzone and the stadium as the mustard palce. I think this may be an attempt by the Pirates to steal some of that enthusiasm for the Pirates. Seriously, no one in Pittsburgh would notice if the Pirates stopped playing in mid-August after the Steelers open training camp.
#36 by Jason on 01.27.07 12:54 pm |
Above should read “enthusiasm for the Steelers”
#37 by bg on 01.27.07 12:56 pm |
Heinz has got to have something to do with this.
If the Giants were to do this I’d throw up.
#38 by Metsfan AZ on 01.27.07 1:02 pm |
Brandon said:
Scott answered your question – “desperation to sell more gear”
#39 by Dr on 01.27.07 1:05 pm |
Those red jerseys are so ugly they’re cool. But for a Pittsburgh team, red as a dominant color doesn’t work. Only black or gold.
The batting practice hats are terrible. How thick is that P? It doesn’t bode well for the rest of the league.
#40 by scott d on 01.27.07 1:07 pm |
I like the red. I know that’s a minority viewpoint, but I’ll comment just to represent those who feel this way. You know, me and that one other guy.
#41 by Andrew on 01.27.07 1:09 pm |
Brandon said:
more $$$$$$$$$$$$ for MLB
#42 by Buckeye Mike on 01.27.07 1:10 pm |
1st off, I can’t say I hate the the Red uni’s. They could be worse. I think the new BP ones suck so much more. I think the people should be mad the pitt still uses that nasty yellow and black, and I don’t care about the whole city flag thing. They look dumb. When I think Pirates, I think colors other than yellow. But that doesn’t matter. I think there is too much red in MLB anyways. come on, someone tell them that red can go and a new color could come in.
BTW, EK, haven’t seen ya around in a while, WELCOME BACK!!!
#43 by Metsfan AZ on 01.27.07 1:11 pm |
Is the pirate with the ladybug on his head on any of the actual unis? or just the BP stuff? That would be a cool sleeve patch IMO.
#44 by Andrew on 01.27.07 1:22 pm |
Metsfan AZ said:
No, since players can just wear any black undershirt, there are no sleeve patches. Unless there’s a new change for 2007, the Buc head is only on the BP jersey.
#45 by The Gov'Nah on 01.27.07 1:23 pm |
I think the Red looks pretty sharp. i think there is enough yellow on the word PIRATES and the number to make the jersey look nice.
#46 by concealed78 on 01.27.07 1:24 pm |
Those red Pirate alternates are terrible! Purely awful. And why re-introduce red to an already perfect color scheme & uniform? A red uni with black numbers with a yellow outline? Puke!
#47 by Metsfan AZ on 01.27.07 1:26 pm |
Andrew said:
hmmm, i thought i had seen vest with sleeve patches before, but i see your point. If someone doens’t want to wear one of the tight fit undershirts they would have to have multiple types of shirts with patches.
#48 by skott on 01.27.07 1:29 pm |
good job steel city! 9 out of 10 uni fans HATE what you’ve done! geesh.
those things are gonna drive the Penguins out!
#49 by Brian from Short Island on 01.27.07 1:29 pm |
Hitch said:
The trend in MLS is to move away from red jerseys… Red Bull NY is latest on that boat.
#50 by The Gov'Nah on 01.27.07 1:33 pm |
They will probably only wear those red jersies on Sunday afternoon home games, which would be about 13 times. so it’s not the end of the world.
Does anyone know the exact name of that color ? looks like a “dull” type of red. maybe pirate ships used that color to claim victory over their enemies back when Chester Copperpot and One Eyed Willie were sailing the seas.
#51 by Mark on 01.27.07 1:33 pm |
Yeah, the BP hats look extremely bad. I don’t see why they even changed them, or why they had to change the regular hats in the first place. That flap over the ear makes it look really cheap.
#52 by BurghFan on 01.27.07 1:34 pm |
At the same session, you can see the pirate head patch on a sleeve. It’s been on sleeves since they went back to the vests in 2001.
#53 by Eric on 01.27.07 1:35 pm |
so the red is for the JV?
what? those are major league uniforms?
damn
#54 by Matthew P on 01.27.07 1:51 pm |
BurghFan said:
Well I don’t think much of the blue pants-they don’t match anything!
Seriously, though, not a very classy intro.
#55 by Andrew on 01.27.07 1:55 pm |
BurghFan said:
Just on some of them however. Which means it’s either just for the home uni, or it’s the “team issued” undershirt, and players can opt to wear other black shirts if you look through all the pictures. The player wearing the alternate (LaRoche I think) has blank sleeves.
#56 by Sean R. on 01.27.07 1:59 pm |
It wouldn’t look as bad if it was a slightly darker red, but that thing just looks like it’s been through the wash about ten or twenty times.
#57 by Metsfan AZ on 01.27.07 2:00 pm |
Matthew P said:
The D’Baacks (two a’s on purpose to simulate the jerseys) did the same thing. I think Byrnes wore some cool Chucks if i remember right.
#58 by Andrew on 01.27.07 2:01 pm |
This is unfortunate… as a life long Pirates fan I thought that the team finally had the uniforms right last season with the awesome Sunday pinstripe uni.
I guess the team did all right because they didn’t get rid the awesome home and away uniforms.
#59 by todd krevanchi (krvanch) on 01.27.07 2:04 pm |
ngruz25 said:
i love the color combination. i think it really looks together.
is the distaste (read, hatred) for this uni update based on the fact that an arbitrary color, red, was added, or do you folks just think that black, yellow, and red dont go together?
#60 by Steve on 01.27.07 2:22 pm |
http://post-gazette....
The other picture leaves out the pinstripes. So i guess they have both the pinstripes and the red as alternates.
#61 by Andrew on 01.27.07 2:22 pm |
todd krevanchi (krvanch) said:
Well i think that the red just doesn’t look good on this type of uni. I think the best alternate uniform the pirates had was there last one here This one was dropped last season. The Pirates are only going to wear the red unis on Friday games so hopefully we won’t see to much of this
I can swallow the pill of a bad looking uniform if it means the team will stop losing
#62 by Matt H. on 01.27.07 2:30 pm |
I’m sorry, but the city of Pittsburg will have to suffer because of this. I think we should commision Paul to strip them of their #4 (tied) ranking!
So the top 5 would read:
1)Boston
2)Chicago
3)San Fran Bay Area
4)LA
5)New York
And god dam, those BP hats are disgusting…
#63 by Souder on 01.27.07 2:34 pm |
The yellow side striping on the BP jersey looks like a massive pit stain.
#64 by TX Ken on 01.27.07 2:35 pm |
In this case I love the Red alt. jersey! While the black and gold is pure pirates, the red brings it out without sacrificing those colors, though it is a little loud.
Indeed an original color combination with the yellow and black. And this is probably the best looking “vest” in the Majors (it beats the Rockies’ purple or the Twins’ striped pixie-vest), which is not saying a whole lot.
Also, the Pirates’ typography makes anything look good.
#65 by Heaps on 01.27.07 2:40 pm |
Bless their hearts!
Haven’t they suffered enough?
#66 by Grant E. on 01.27.07 2:43 pm |
#67 by Tony on 01.27.07 2:53 pm |
I think we need a new topic. How bout suggestions for which NFL teams need a make-over, and how.
My list:
1. Miami- get rid of the dark blue from the color scheme. This goes for everyone:no team should have more than two primary colors (other than white)!!!! Also ditch the drop shadows. (all drop shadows on all sports uniforms are crap)
2. 49ers- no more drop shadows
3. Ravens, Jags, Bengals, and Saints–no more all black ensembles. This is the NFL, not the XFL.
4.Redskins- come up with a system of when to wear the burgundy pants vs. the white. Like this for home, and this on the road.
5. Titans- make these and these the primary uniforms instead of the alternates.
#68 by scott on 01.27.07 2:53 pm |
Indeed an original color combination with the yellow and black. And this is probably the best looking “vest†in the Majors (it beats the Rockies’ purple or the Twins’ striped pixie-vest), which is not saying a whole lot.
Wait, how can this be the best looking vest when the Pirates already have a white and gray vest that doesn’t look like crap?
#69 by u kno DBo on 01.27.07 3:04 pm |
i about shit myself when i saw those on the front page of the local sports section. blahh!!! i mean, i knew they were adding red to their alternates this year, but i didnt know they were going to be ALL RED. ew!
#70 by Andy from KC on 01.27.07 3:38 pm |
todd krevanchi (krvanch) said:
Just my opinion:
Red + Gold = Awesome
Black + Red = Awesome
Black + Gold = Friggin Awesome
Black + Red + Gold = Too Busy
#71 by Matthew P on 01.27.07 3:43 pm |
Tony said:
This is apparently not a subject that can be changed. Oh, the horror! Oh, the humanity!
Seriously, if one of my kids ever eats a poison mushroom or drinks a gallon of Clorox, I’ll show him the picture at the top of the thread. More effective than ipecac. Same color, too.
#72 by Chris on 01.27.07 3:48 pm |
Tony said:
The 49ers jerseys are fine, as long as they wear their throwbacks twice a year. The Bengal’s jerseys are fine also. The only major NFL change that I think needs to happen is a new Lion’s logo. Nothing looks more intimidating than a kitten on the side of the helmet.
#73 by Matt H. on 01.27.07 3:57 pm |
what about the bills and vikings using NFL style jersey’s instead of CFL ones…
the Bills should go back to their ‘throwback unis’ that they wear…
#74 by Tom R on 01.27.07 3:57 pm |
Here in Pittsburgh the plan is
White – Home
Gray – Away
Red – Friday Night Home
White Pinstripe – Sunday Home
The Pirates did used to use a Red Billed cap in the late 90’s for one year only. I still have one but never wore it.
#75 by Tom R on 01.27.07 4:00 pm |
There is a smaller picture that you can see the white pinstripe better at…
http://www.post-gaze...
#76 by Metsfan AZ on 01.27.07 4:03 pm |
Tom R said:
Friday Night Home??? So is their disco-going-out-shirt??? Just my skewed humor
#77 by Metsfan AZ on 01.27.07 4:04 pm |
Hey Krvanch, the Heels made my Cats look more like kittens, not our year I guess, damn…
#78 by Matt H. on 01.27.07 4:04 pm |
I’m pretty sure we are all familiar, but I’m talking about these
#79 by Matt H. on 01.27.07 4:06 pm |
What about those grey caps the Pirates used for a couple of seasons, circa late 90’s/early 2000s
#80 by Matt H. on 01.27.07 4:12 pm |
Does anyone else hate how all the super bowl stuff has ’south florida’ instead of ‘miami’ on it?
#81 by C.N. on 01.27.07 4:15 pm |
Rich said:
!? What? They are incredible, if donw right. The only problem is very few of them are done right. The dot-matrix Nike sleeves don’t help.
#82 by Tom R on 01.27.07 4:15 pm |
Matt H. said:
I remember those, I have one somewhere. Gray hat black bill. They wore them with gray uniforms with black pinstripes.
#83 by C.N. on 01.27.07 4:16 pm |
Matt H. said:
Yes. Silly little things like that are why I’m a college football fan and not an NFL guy.
#84 by Philly Bill on 01.27.07 4:54 pm |
C.N. said:
A reflection of the suburbanization of our culture; it’s why, over 10 years ago, MLB added the Colorado Rockies and the Florida Marlins.
Technically Dolphin Stadium is in something called Miami Gardens, Florida.
#85 by ThresherK on 01.27.07 5:00 pm |
Maybe solid block bright red just doesn’t work in baseball. Maybe any solid block bright color isn’t best for baseball. After all, in no other sport is the secondary uniform so regularly gray. They closely resemble BP jerseys here, and the less of that the better, goes the opinion in these parts.
Red, yellow and black? Makes me long for the old MetroStars, or even the hoops of the real old school Ft. Lauderdale Strikers. If that’s the goal, mission accomplished.
#86 by Ben on 01.27.07 5:06 pm |
This post kinda sucks as I have neither a picture nor a name, but I was just watching the Senior Bowl and due to a bone jarring hit by Miami’s Brandon Meriweather, one of the North’s wide receivers had about half of the front of his jersey torn off
#87 by DVD on 01.27.07 5:24 pm |
I heard from my baseball insider that MLB is coming out with a new BP hat that all the teams will be wearing, and it can be all yours for a mere 32 bucks.
You gotta be kidding me, I wouldn’t wear that if you paid me to.
Also, uniform aside, what the hell is on Laroche’s face? I looked like 20 packets of ketchup exploded on his chin.
#88 by Cavan on 01.27.07 5:25 pm |
Apparently Pittsburgh fans like the new red uni’s, judging by an article I read linked from Buster Olney’s blog…red merchandise has been selling well.
#89 by Kyle O. on 01.27.07 5:34 pm |
Hey all. Im watching the Notre Dame/ Nova game and noticed a little patch above Villanova’s name on their jersey. ANyone know what it is. It looks like two lines or the number 11 but there is also an 11 on the court so i dont think its a tribute
#90 by NMK on 01.27.07 5:35 pm |
As a Pittsburgh fan, I can’t bring myself to care about the uniforms until the Pirates field a major league team.
#91 by Fred Provencher on 01.27.07 5:44 pm |
The Pirates must change their uniforms more than any other team in baseball. It just shows how cash strapped they are. The alternate jersey is just a sign of deperation. I can’t even be angry. It is just sad especially because the non pinstripe vest in white or grey is a near perfect uniform. (Vests and pinstripes should never be put together.)The Pirates never need to redo their uniforms except to saturate the market with a new product. Oh wait, that is the point; sad.
#92 by Jeff on 01.27.07 5:47 pm |
Has anyone noticed H.B. Blades and Tyler Palko are wearing a throwback Pitt Logo and stripes during the senior bowl????
#93 by Steve C. on 01.27.07 6:04 pm |
Rich said:
No way! What about the video of Bill Mazeroski circling the bases for his walk-off home run to win the 1960 World Series? Any time I see pictures of Roberto Clemente, he’s wearing the classic Pirates vest uniform.
So the new ketchup jersey sucks, but the Pirates have some of the classiest unis out there! Think of the Jays. Think of the D-Backs. The Bucs have (or had?) some uniform dignity.
#94 by Matthew P on 01.27.07 6:12 pm |
Steve C.-”uniform dignity”. Single best line I’ve read all day, and really the nut of what this site’s all about. Well said!
#95 by maximumK on 01.27.07 6:26 pm |
In that second picture, my eyes were drawn away from the red (which was probably a poor choice) by the fact that everyone HAD THEIR JERSEYS UNTUCKED! If you’re going to do an official unveiling at least try to look…you know…official.
Jeff said:
hehe…H.B. Blades. That dude would fit so well into the XFL based on his name alone. I hope those initals end up on the back of whatever NFL uni he wears.
#96 by Tony on 01.27.07 6:31 pm |
Does anyone else hate how all the super bowl stuff has ’south florida’ instead of ‘miami’ on it?
Yes. Silly little things like that are why I’m a college football fan and not an NFL guy.
If the NFL ran things the way college football does, #1 San Diego would be facing #2 Baltimore in the Tostitos BCS World Championship game presented by AT&T. I’ll take a real title game with “South Florida” than colleges “championship” any day.
#97 by Minna H. on 01.27.07 6:41 pm |
I said it once, and I’ll say it again. I like the red vest, though I agree the cap on the right has gotta go. That makes three of us who like the red vests—definite minority.
#98 by maximumK on 01.27.07 6:57 pm |
Sportscenter just showed a shot of Syracuse’s Demitrius Nichols (sp?) shooting his warmups and sporting his iPod headphones. I know this is outlawed in the NBA, but I suppose it’s a school-to-school decision at the college level.
#99 by Jokie on 01.27.07 7:12 pm |
Hey all – separate note…
Islanders are wearing a vintage 1972 blue jersey tonight. Same crest, but royal blue instead of current navy. Numbers and letters are orange with white trim. Also, the bottom of the jersey has a really thick orange and white stripes separated by a strip of blue.
However, all players are wearing helmets tonight!
#100 by Jokie on 01.27.07 7:14 pm |
Jokie said:
Also, they are lace up in the front – white laces.
#101 by Dan on 01.27.07 7:22 pm |
Those red alts themselves aren’t that bad. I’ve seen worse (Florida black alt). But the red brimmed hat has got to go. But the red trim wasn’t even necessary for one of the best baseball color schemes (yellow and black).
I don’t know about you, but the Chicago Bears’ all-blue ensemble they put on for Green Bay several weeks ago looked really sharp to me. I’m kind of hoping to see again in the Super Bowl, or even the orange alts. I’ve always liked to see teams wear alts for big games (like Cal in yellow in the Holiday Bowl).
#102 by Jesse on 01.27.07 7:28 pm |
I don’t know what to make of this…
A Triple-A team with cheerleaders?
#103 by Allison on 01.27.07 7:38 pm |
Jesse said:
I think it’s more of a “dance team”. I know some Single-A teams that have a dance team. I think most teams have a dance team of sorts.
#104 by C.N. on 01.27.07 7:47 pm |
#105 by C.N. on 01.27.07 7:48 pm |
Jeff said:
Yes!!!!
#106 by Timmy B on 01.27.07 7:50 pm |
Jokie said:
1972 jerseys look sweet. It wouldn’t bother me if they went back to the royal blue and ditched the navy blue.
Retro jerseys (which were road jerseys in 1972-73) aren’t totally historically accurate though. In ‘72, Isles didn’t have players names on the jerseys. And they didn’t have a Reebok logo on the back either. Plus the players are still wearing the navy helmets. Kinda looks silly up close.
Another cool side note: Isles trainer wearing what looks like a royal blue retro warm-up jacket.
#107 by C.N. on 01.27.07 7:50 pm |
Tony said:
Yeah, and if the NFL ran things the way college football does, late-season games would actually mean something, across the board.
#108 by C.N. on 01.27.07 7:54 pm |
Dan said:
I think in big games you should let your play do the talking, not your uniforms. Remember what happened with Oregon in their bowl game. And Cal wears their yellow so much now, it can hardly be considered a true alternate. And gosh, no, don’t ask for the Bears to wear all-blue in the Super Bowl. Remember Seattle last year?
#109 by Steve on 01.27.07 8:28 pm |
C.N. said:
yeah i noticed too. I remember after Pitt had a throwback game last year, Palko and most of the team stated that they liked the throwbacks a lot better. There are a lot of people trying to get the Pitt script back. Palko and Blades were probably just showing their support and did it to send a message to the athletic department. I personally would love to for pitt to go back to the Pitt script.
#110 by Timmy B on 01.27.07 8:34 pm |
Further on the Isles retro night-
It’s real hard to get the “retro feel” though, when the Isles are rocking out the 72-73 threads and Buffalo has on their brand new, and in my opinion, atrocious looking, road jersey. The 1972-73 Home Sabres jersey would’ve fit the bill much nicer. Oh well.
The Isles keep putting up a graphic showing current players and their jersey number and who wore that number in 72-73.
Little trivia.. What number did the Isles issue in 72-73 that was worn by one player, then no other for the history of the franchise?
#111 by BP on 01.27.07 8:39 pm |
Has the P always been larger than the IRATES? Maybe I just never noticed before. And does it look like the letters get smaller from left to right (aside from the P)? It’s probably the picture…or maybe I’m just looking for more reasons to dislike that jersey.
#112 by S Bennett on 01.27.07 8:39 pm |
1972 jerseys look sweet. It wouldn’t bother me if they went back to the royal blue and ditched the navy blue.
I agree about going back to lighter blue, but the numbers are hard to read on TV. I’ve seen them tons of times in photos, and thought they’d be awesome to go back to, but TV isn’t being kind to the blue sweater / orange number package.
#113 by Timmy B on 01.27.07 8:48 pm |
S Bennett said:
You’re right. Names are tough to read. And the font on the names looks a little cartoonish when you see it up close. They should’ve left the names off. Still, if they offer these up for sale, count me in to pick one up.
#114 by S Bennett on 01.27.07 8:50 pm |
Little trivia.. What number did the Isles issue in 72-73 that was worn by one player, then no other for the history of the franchise?
Gotta be Billy Smith or Bobby Ny. Both were “original Islanders” who had their numbers retired. I’m almost certain that Bobby Nystrom came up part way through the first year, which means Smitty’s 31 would be your answer.
Denis’ big brother on the intermission too. Great stuff!
#115 by Timmy B on 01.27.07 8:57 pm |
S Bennett said:
Gotta be Billy Smith or Bobby Ny.
Both were “original Islanders” who had their numbers retired. I’m almost certain that Bobby Nystrom came up part way through the first year, which means Smitty’s 31 would be your answer.
Denis’ big brother on the intermission too. Great stuff!
Correct! Billy Smith’s #31.
Little known fact of the night- Bobby Nystrom wore #5 briefly for the Isles before taking his familiar #23.
#116 by Steven on 01.27.07 9:22 pm |
Does anyone know how long Michael Redd of the Milwaukee Bucks has been wearing a captain’s “C” on his jersey. I’m sure this hasn’t gone unnoticed and Paul has probably mentioned it before. I was just curious. Here’s the link if your interested. I’m not really good with the direct link so you’re gonna have to copy an paste:
http://sports.espn.g...
#117 by Mark in Shiga on 01.27.07 9:35 pm |
What drives me nuts about the Pirates’ uniforms is not the red but the rediculous number 7 than they’ve been using ever since they brought back the vests. It looks like a 2 with the base cut off. What, are they so strapped for cash they they can’t pay a font designer to do all the digits? They need to sharpen the upper left corner, or both the upper left and upper right corners.
They should have brought in a black vest instead of red. Black has been a Pittsburgh color for years and looks much more natural on them than it does on, say, the Mets.
I could maybe get into this red jersey if they wore black pants with it. Otherwise you’ve got a red shirt and a black undershirt and white pants. Clownish.
#118 by Mark in Shiga on 01.27.07 10:20 pm |
That should of course be ‘ridiculous’, not ‘rediculous’. All this ‘red’ talk is getting into my subconscious!
#119 by Joe Raskin on 01.27.07 10:21 pm |
Could you imagine Willie Stargell or Roberto Clemente wearing that red uniform? It almost makes the Mets’ black uni look good!!!
#120 by Aaron on 01.27.07 10:27 pm |
Timmy B said:
Here are pictures of said jerseys, I kinda like the dark blue better with the white letters.:
http://scores.espn.g...
http://scores.espn.g...
http://scores.espn.g...
#121 by Allison on 01.27.07 10:37 pm |
Apparently #24 in that first pic is a fan of the tucked in look.
#122 by Timmy B on 01.27.07 10:39 pm |
More from Retro Night at the Coliseum:
Goal!
Tie-up’s are the way to go
Lettering on these is nothing like I’ve ever seen the Isles wear
#123 by Aaron on 01.27.07 10:57 pm |
Anyone else think this is an overuse of the primary colors (http://en.wikipedia....)?
http://cgi.ebay.com/...
Frightening.
#124 by B Wach$ on 01.27.07 11:12 pm |
Tony said:
As a die hard Titan fan, I would hate to see those as primary. The Tar Hell Blue should not be the primary. The navy looks so much better. I also hate the Tar Heel Pants.
The Pirates should stick with black and gold, just like everybody else in Pittsburgh but the red bills look excellent. But the jerseys are horrendus.
#125 by S Bennett on 01.27.07 11:18 pm |
Aaron said:
If Colombia ever decides to put together a national hockey team, I think you found their sweater
#126 by Tim Mc on 01.27.07 11:38 pm |
Add me to the list of people who doesnt think the pirate’s uni’s are that bad…maybe its cause those are my high school’s colors, but i dont think its as bad as some of you are making it out to be
#127 by Stink Face on 01.28.07 12:05 am |
Timmy B said:
I’m loving that font! I’ve also never seen anything like it. I wish they would use it all the time.
I’ve never been fond of the plaint font the Isles currently have, which they started using in the 1984 playoffs. Before that, player names had an outline/border which mirrored the numbers on the jersey.
#128 by tBone on 01.28.07 12:21 am |
I usually don’t check out the weekend open threads, but I had to see this one once I heard about the Pirates’ unveiling. You guys didn’t disappoint. Whoa, baby.
#129 by Brian Erni on 01.28.07 12:34 am |
the isles looked fantastic tonight! LOVE the laceup. LOVE the royal blue. LOVE the orange numbers and letters.
the reason they originally wore royal blue and orange was because those are the colors of the nassau county flag, and it HAS to return. they went to the navy after they changed back to the current style after the fishsticks days. i have a feeling it was just so that people had to buy new jerseys and not just break out their old ones pre-fishsticks.
#130 by Jon on 01.28.07 2:54 am |
C.N. said:
Not that I’m a fan of Cal or their yellow jerseys, but I live in the Bay Area and can only remember them wearing the yellow jerseys twice – once during the regular season, and again in the bowl game. I hardly see how that’s wearing them “so much”.
#131 by Mike on 01.28.07 3:05 am |
I hope those Isles jerseys were some sort of preview/test run for something they are going to do with the new jerseys next season. They look awesome.
#132 by Dave on 01.28.07 4:29 am |
C.N. said:
They do–they’re playoff games! These games are a little tournament between the top teams in the regular season to determine who wins the championship.
#133 by adr on 01.28.07 4:59 am |
Those Red Pirates unis kinda remind me of the current Calgary Flames jerseys. Which seems to work for hockey, but doesn’t seem to work for a baseball team called ‘Pirates.’
#134 by JMC on 01.28.07 5:08 am |
oh NO. Pirates, what were you thinking???
As for the comments about the 49ers… put me down as 1 vote for switching back to the classic 80’s uniforms permanently. Better red, no black, muted gold, and STRIPES on the socks. Word is that Nolan is trying to get them to switch back, here’s hoping he succeeds.
#135 by DP30 on 01.28.07 7:02 am |
I realize I’m a day late here, but I’m of the opinion that baseball jersey vests should always be in white or grey, with the undershirt in the team’s primary color. It looks too much like a high school summer league game when you start mixing like the Pirates are planning to do.
It’s surprising to see them drop the Sunday pinstripe unis, I thought those were great alternates.
#136 by DP30 on 01.28.07 7:21 am |
Check out the 2nd picture in this set, Arron Asham’s really getting into the spirit of Throwback Night!
I must say I like these better than the pumpkin sweaters they usually wear on Saturday nights.
As for the Isles’ main color, I have no problem with either the royal or navy blue, just don’t screw around with the horizontal striping for next season. I think it’s a classic, classy look.
#137 by mbx1231 on 01.28.07 8:31 am |
Last comment about the Pirates red unis:
“Do you want fries with that?”
#138 by Warren Thompson on 01.28.07 9:18 am |
ngruz25 said:
I sort of like ‘em, as well. And that eccentric BP cap might just might become a collector’s item ….
#139 by Sammy on 01.28.07 10:00 am |
I don’t know if anybody caught this before, but Gene Wojciechowski’s NFL season-prediction-recap column says:
“77. The Minnesota Vikings will win every meaningful award for Ugliest Uniforms by an NFL Franchise.
Correct. The only way the Vikings lose this distinction is if the University of Oregon becomes an expansion franchise.”
The full column
#140 by Adam on 01.28.07 1:36 pm |
The red is hidious. I thought theylearned the lesson from a few years ago. The Pirates should incorporate the hat that they wore in 72-75 yellow with the black bill into their scheme. That would be classy.
#141 by Mr. Met on 01.28.07 2:03 pm |
It could have been worse. They could have chosen to go with the following design as their cap design along with the red vest:
#142 by Mr. Met on 01.28.07 2:05 pm |
Sorry, here’s the link:
http://i17.ebayimg.c...
#143 by Dan on 01.28.07 2:48 pm |
Having spent the entire weekend working at PirateFest, I have to say that the fans here seem to like the new jerseys, judging by how many are not only being bought, but also worn. Personally, I like the idea, just not the execution. I think red, black and gold is too much, and they should’ve made the red jersey with sleeves. The pinstripes are still there, meaning the Bucs have four uniforms, but three are for home (it’s my understanding that only the grays will be road unis; red will be for home Fridays).
Of course it’s a marketing ploy, but EVERY team does it. None can be excluded from criticism, and that includes the Yankees, who may not wear anything but pinstripes and basic gray, but they don’t shy away from licensing apparel in hideous shades of pink, baby blue, tan, green, etc. And people buy them.
#144 by Todd on 01.28.07 7:50 pm |
The batting practice hat on the right is aweful as well. Is that red ear padding?
#145 by Scott on 01.29.07 12:06 am |
Sammy said:
I think there are worse uniforms in the NFL.
The Bengals, Bills, and Ravens come to mind.
#146 by Chappy on 01.29.07 9:34 am |
As a long-suffering Bucs fan, I wouldn’t mind if they dressed like the ‘76 White Sox if it meant they’d still be in contention after September first!
Also, every time I see a red alt., the first thing that pops into my head is Olbermann shouting “Dairy Queen!” during a Twins highlight a bunch of years back on Sportscenter, referring to Minnesota’s softball-esque red Sunday jersey.
That said, maybe I’ve just gotten used to the color, but I really don’t mind the red jersey as much as I thought I would (maybe, as someone said, it’s the yellow highlights that save it for me). And I totally dig the red-billed cap…I sill have one from a few years back, but it’s fitted and a little on the tight side for my huge noggin.
I dunno, as a follower (and wearer) of all things Pittsburgh, I might be that I’m just a little psyched to have a splash of color other than black and gold in the mix. Don’t get me wrong…I love that all the ‘Burgh’s teams feature the same colors…but variety is the spice of life!
#147 by ACC (the Brain) on 01.29.07 7:40 pm |
C.N. said:
Huh?
There were playoff implications for a record # of teams this season going into week 17!
#148 by Paul on 02.02.07 3:31 pm |
I like the red alternates (im a man who isnt afraid of color). It brings some character into the EVER SO BORING world of Baseball uniforms. But the Pirates new spring training/practice cap has to go! I LOVE ALL BLACK NFL UNI’s!!! Saints, Jaguars, Ravens…it looks good guys! Drop shadows on the numbers looks good too! What i cant stand is the all the satin/glimmery broadway queer flash that all the NBA jerseys have now! they ruined the Chicago Bulls Jerseys with the glossyness! AND CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THE WIZARDS ALTERNATE JERSEYS?!?!?!! They look like bathing suits from 1923!!!!
#149 by Matt H on 02.03.07 1:09 pm |
Red, black, and gold is the nicest 3-color combo in the color spectrum. I’m thrilled that they brought this back in such a big way. I can’t believe so many people are complaining about it.