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12.30.06

Saturday Open Thread

(Photo by Stephen Dunn/Getty Images)

Running back Ray Rice of the Rutgers Scarlet Knights carries the ball as linebacker Alphonso Moran of the Kansas State Wildcats moves in for the tackle during the Texas Bowl on December 28, 2006 at Reliant Stadium in Houston Texas. Rutgers won 37-10. It was Rutgers’s first-ever bowl game victory.



Good for Rutgers, they deserved every bit of that victory for a program that has been so low in it’s history.

In a little while back in an article by Darren Rovell he stated that the players at Nike schools would be wearing Huarache 2k4 football cleats this year during the bowl games.

While I wrote it off as the wrong information, I spotted several Rutgers’ players wearing these during the game.

PS- Off to the Chik-Fil-A Bowl, hope all goes well.

Question for Todd Krevanchi: you posted these Jordan 5’s the other day.

Why is Nike pushing the 5’s so much? That’s a lot of guys with the same shoe.

Also, it’s cool they still include that thing on the shoe laces. What is that called anyway?

Fun socks
The black would go well with some old Zubaz pants.

Auntie Em it’s a twister!

Classic stripes. Quality doesn’t look too hot, though.

The Blackhawks wore white jerseys at home last night while the Bruins wore their throwbacks.

Bill said:

The Blackhawks wore white jerseys at home last night while the Bruins wore their throwbacks.

Since it was an Original 6 matchup, and Chicago doesn’t have a throwback, Boston wore their throwback alternate jerseys. It might be one of the few things that Bill Wirtz has ever done right at home.

Nolan said:

Question for Todd Krevanchi: you posted these Jordan 5’s the other day.

Why is Nike pushing the 5’s so much? That’s a lot of guys with the same shoe.

Also, it’s cool they still include that thing on the shoe laces. What is that called anyway?

Its not so much that they aer pushing the Vs, its that they are reissuing all of the Jordans, and they are up to the Vs now. There were a few IVs over the spring and summer, a few in Tour de France colors (well, Tour Yellow at least, along the lines of the 10/2 collection) Its funny, as much as I loved the IVs and Vs, I didnt buy a single pair of AJs this year. Although I should have picked up the Fire Red Vs.

and the lace device is called the LACE LOCK.

hey i am wondering where to buy basketball shoe style laces…cant find a good store anywhere.

Denver University Pioneer hockey played in their new “swift” jerseys by Nike last night. Butt-ugly clothes. Weird slightly constrasting panels under the arms and across the lower back. Moisture-wicking, maybe? The broad expanse of white at the bottom of the jersey made it look like it was supposed to be tucked in. As feared, there were significant bulges from padding.

Their opponent, Mercyhurst, looked especially sharp in contrast.

Clevo said:

Nolan said:

Question for Todd Krevanchi: you posted these Jordan 5’s the other day.

Why is Nike pushing the 5’s so much? That’s a lot of guys with the same shoe.

Also, it’s cool they still include that thing on the shoe laces. What is that called anyway?

Its not so much that they aer pushing the Vs, its that they are reissuing all of the Jordans, and they are up to the Vs now. There were a few IVs over the spring and summer, a few in Tour de France colors (well, Tour Yellow at least, along the lines of the 10/2 collection) Its funny, as much as I loved the IVs and Vs, I didnt buy a single pair of AJs this year. Although I should have picked up the Fire Red Vs.

and the lace device is called the LACE LOCK.

Thanks Man, I really like the old Jordan’s they remind me of my school days. I knew they were doing the re-issue thing but I thought they were putting them out quicker than that. Is this the second round of re-issuing the shoes?

Interesting note on some hoops’ shorts.

I noticed Hofstra had “CAA” (Colonial Athletic Association) on the bottom on their left short leg. Just noticed they had Flying Dutchmen Pride on their right leg.

http://www.hofstra.e...

Jeff I said:

Interesting note on some hoops’ shorts.

I noticed Hofstra had “CAA” (Colonial Athletic Association) on the bottom on their left short leg. Just noticed they had Flying Dutchmen Pride on their right leg.

http://www.hofstra.e...

Ah, my strikethrough font for the “Flying Dutchmen” part failed me. It just says “Pride” on the shorts. A darn shame

Bill said:

The Blackhawks wore white jerseys at home last night while the Bruins wore their throwbacks.

I’ve been watching the B’s all season, and it seems I’ve been too fixated on the throwback sweaters to notice how awesome the socks are.

Sheffield United had to put a midfielder in goal today after their keeper was injured against Arsenal. A pic of the players changing shirts

Is this the second round of re-issuing the shoes?

Yep, Nike is re-retroing Jordans. They have already retro-ed AJ I thru XIV, and some of them multiple times. More re-retros to come, including the white/black/red IIIs in February.

Given the Ray Rice, Rutgers photo, a bit of trivia. What two teams played in the first recorded college football game ever? Yep, that’s right, Rutgers was one of them. The team to win its first bowl game recently, played in the first recorded college football game in the 1800s against cross-state rival Princeton.

Scott said:

Given the Ray Rice, Rutgers photo, a bit of trivia. What two teams played in the first recorded college football game ever? Yep, that’s right, Rutgers was one of them. The team to win its first bowl game recently, played in the first recorded college football game in the 1800s against cross-state rival Princeton.

It would have come alot sooner but they stunk so badly for so long that they couldn’t get to a bowl game for 27 years.

As I was watching highlights of last night’s games in the NHL, I was marvelling once again at Jordan Staal’s goal. However, something else caught my attention as TSN showed a very clear shot of Radim Vrbata’s cage. I know it’s been discussed on here before, but it really caught my attention as he’s been wearing it now for the better part of a month due to an eye injury he suffered due to a high stick against Calgary in late mid-November. He normally wears a visor, so I’m surprised he has gone this long with a cage.

Here’s a picture of the cage he’s currently wearing.

Apparently, “late mid-November” to me means sometime around November 20th. :o)

Ed Findlay said:

Scott said:

Given the Ray Rice, Rutgers photo, a bit of trivia. What two teams played in the first recorded college football game ever? Yep, that’s right, Rutgers was one of them. The team to win its first bowl game recently, played in the first recorded college football game in the 1800s against cross-state rival Princeton.

It would have come alot sooner but they stunk so badly for so long that they couldn’t get to a bowl game for 27 years.

Not understanding the US College system all that much, but I have to think that you have to work really hard NOT to get into a bowl game….how many are there now, 80? 90?:)

Watching the Alamo Bowl right now, and it’s obvious that in the end zone, the S in “Texas” is upside down. The lower bowl is significantly smaller than the upper bowl.

I was reading about Chad Johnson’s nameplate shenanigans and wondered the following: In the NFL, is it mandatory for a player to have their name on the back of their uniform? Seeing as the NFL has loosened up a bit as far as assigning uni numbers, if a player requested not to have their name on their jersey, would the request be honored? I can sort of see a case being made on religious grounds, granted it’s one of the more off the wall religions, but still.

Also, is it illegal for two players on the same team to switch jerseys during a game as a ruse to try and fool the opposing team? Obviously the players would have to be similar in size etc.

Yesterday Paul linked to the photo I posted in the comments showing the girl’s basketall team with the “polka-dot”-socks. They WERE basketballs, which a reader pointed out, but that WAS the Winter Haven girls, and they were playing AGAINST the Collins HIgh girls in that photo.

HERE is a team photo of the Winter Haven girls, wearing the basketball socks.

No Navy mess-ups today!
Ex. NAYV, NVAY.

RefJerseys said:

Not understanding the US College system all that much, but I have to think that you have to work really hard NOT to get into a bowl game….how many are there now, 80? 90?:)

Yes, there are a lot now, haha, but you must have a winning record to be eligible, and Rutgers has lost A LOT of games in its history.

Two good-looking teams under the roof in san antonio tonight. I kinda wish we could see texas’ orange jerseys, ’cause those all-whites just don’t feel right. Love those black and gold Iowa threads though.

Side Note: Anyone who says the Texas Marching Band looks ugly is a fool. Love that look and its ties to the region.

Okay, just noticed something else in the Alamo Bowl. Texas’ bowl patch is white with orange lettering, and Iowa’s patch is black with yellow lettering.

Is this the first bowl game whose participants are wearing team-specific patches? All I’ve seen this year are the same patches for both teams.

And whoever painted Iowa’s end zone needs to learn something about kerning. There’s too much space between the W and A, like it was first typeset in Word®.

Ben said:

I was reading about Chad Johnson’s nameplate shenanigans and wondered the following: In the NFL, is it mandatory for a player to have their name on the back of their uniform? Seeing as the NFL has loosened up a bit as far as assigning uni numbers, if a player requested not to have their name on their jersey, would the request be honored?

No. NFL uni regulations call for every player to wear a nameplate.

Ben said:

Also, is it illegal for two players on the same team to switch jerseys during a game as a ruse to try and fool the opposing team?

Yes. A player’s uni number must match the one under which he’s listed on the roster.

My spies have informed me that Miami of Ohio broke out the new Nike Swift jerseys for tonight’s hockey game against Ohio State. No in-game shots, but here’s a link to a pic of he uniform and the default press release about how it’s the greatest thing for hockey since Wayne Gretzky. Apparently, even though the new jerseys are available to them, Ohio State is still wearing their old Nike hockey jerseys.

Original Jim said:

Okay, just noticed something else in the Alamo Bowl. Texas’ bowl patch is white with orange lettering, and Iowa’s patch is black with yellow lettering.

Is this the first bowl game whose participants are wearing team-specific patches? All I’ve seen this year are the same patches for both teams.

And whoever painted Iowa’s end zone needs to learn something about kerning. There’s too much space between the W and A, like it was first typeset in Word®.

Why is Texas the away team im pretty sure they had the much better record

Original Jim said:

Okay, just noticed something else in the Alamo Bowl. Texas’ bowl patch is white with orange lettering, and Iowa’s patch is black with yellow lettering.

Is this the first bowl game whose participants are wearing team-specific patches? All I’ve seen this year are the same patches for both teams.

And whoever painted Iowa’s end zone needs to learn something about kerning. There’s too much space between the W and A, like it was first typeset in Word®.

Actually Texas’ patch lettering looks to be either purple or blue. Iowa’s patch looks great though matching the black and gold. Also, I believe that the Alamo Bowl is the only non corporate sponsored bowl this year. Nice to see a lack of corporate logo creep on either patch.

Brandon said:

Why is Texas the away team im pretty sure they had the much better record

They alternate between Big Ten and Big 12 rep teams as ‘home’ team.

couple more quick things. Someone earlier remarked that the S in Texas was flipped at the Alamo Bowl. It sure is.

While watching the Liberty Bowl yesterday, I noticed that the refs and umps weren’t wearing their usual headwear. Their caps had a Liberty Bowl logo in the middle, and some of them also had the logo on the brim. As if that weren’t bad enough, the caps were adjustable! They looked like they came out of the gift shop. Why was I watching the Liberty Bowl, you ask? I had money on it.

Here, are the two photos I could find, unfortunately they’re pretty poor.

Smail said:

couple more quick things. Someone earlier remarked that the S in Texas was flipped at the Alamo Bowl. It sure is.

While watching the Liberty Bowl yesterday, I noticed that the refs and umps weren’t wearing their usual headwear. Their caps had a Liberty Bowl logo in the middle, and some of them also had the logo on the brim. As if that weren’t bad enough, the caps were adjustable! They looked like they came out of the gift shop. Why was I watching the Liberty Bowl, you ask? I had money on it.

Here, are the two photos I could find, unfortunately they’re pretty poor.

here’s a little bit better one..yeah, I got no life either..:

[IMG]http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n304/exapno/libertybowl1.jpg[/IMG]

lets try a link:

http://i115.photobuc...

Question: Will Miami wear their green unis on the Smurf Turf?

I just read an article on ESPN.com about New Years Resolutions for the NHL by Terry Frei and he came up with this one:
Reebok: To figure out a way to maintain a semblance of traditional logo and color design in the new, more streamlined and moisture-repellent uniforms due to be unveiled next season. And to avoid having anyone be as jarring to the senses as the “original” Ducks — the football Oregon Ducks, who are giving sartorial boldness a bad name.

Let us all hope that this is so, even if it goes against our better judgement. I have a very bad feeling about these uniforms.

I’d say The U goes with Orange on Orange. It would match the orange that accents the blue FieldTurf, Since Bronco Stadium traditionally does very little in the way of turf-artwork. They usually leave the endzones reading “BRONCOS” and fail to cover the BSU logo on the 50.
Bush League.

Also, is it illegal for two players on the same team to switch jerseys during a game as a ruse to try and fool the opposing team?

Yes. A player’s uni number must match the one under which he’s listed on the roster.

To elaborate a bit further, when the NFL had the throwback unis in ‘94, the Steelers and Bears, who used designs that didn’t have front numbers originally, had to add them on the right chest so that opponents could match up with guys by number.

Michigan and Michigan State broke out the Nike Swift Jerseys tonight, just like the link from yesterdays post said would happen. Michigan wore maize jerseys and the numbers were just blue…they absolutely need a white outline or something, it looked a little weird

John said:

RefJerseys said:

Not understanding the US College system all that much, but I have to think that you have to work really hard NOT to get into a bowl game….how many are there now, 80? 90?:)

Yes, there are a lot now, haha, but you must have a winning record to be eligible, and Rutgers has lost A LOT of games in its history.

You do not have to have a winning record. You need 6 wins, and with the added 12th game. many losing teams are finishing their seasons 6-7.

LouUmp said:

lets try a link:

http://i115.photobuc...

Man, I hate my school’s red on red. Yuk. The blue trim that showed up late in the season doesn’t help either.

Wahl said:

John said:

RefJerseys said:

Not understanding the US College system all that much, but I have to think that you have to work really hard NOT to get into a bowl game….how many are there now, 80? 90?:)

Yes, there are a lot now, haha, but you must have a winning record to be eligible, and Rutgers has lost A LOT of games in its history.

You do not have to have a winning record. You need 6 wins, and with the added 12th game. many losing teams are finishing their seasons 6-7.

6-6 at the least, most have more wins that 6.

That said, Rutgers couldn’t manage that for a long, long time. They just simply stunk. If not for Temple they would have been the worst team in the Big East year in and year out for much of the 90s.

I know nobody will see this because it’s at the bottom of an open thread, but tonight I saw the Giants backup QB, Jared Lorenzen, for the first time.

This is the largest person wearing #12 I’ve ever seen. Listed as 6f4i, 285lb, I’d guess he’s about 310. DAMN.

Paul Lukas said:

Ben said:

I was reading about Chad Johnson’s nameplate shenanigans and wondered the following: In the NFL, is it mandatory for a player to have their name on the back of their uniform? Seeing as the NFL has loosened up a bit as far as assigning uni numbers, if a player requested not to have their name on their jersey, would the request be honored?

No. NFL uni regulations call for every player to wear a nameplate.

Ben said:

Also, is it illegal for two players on the same team to switch jerseys during a game as a ruse to try and fool the opposing team?

Yes. A player’s uni number must match the one under which he’s listed on the roster.

Hey Paul, thanks for the info. Do you happen to know why the NFL followed the AFL’s lead and started putting names on the backs of all jerseys after the merger in 1970.

Also, and this may be a bit obscure, but did ANY NFL team have names on the backs of jerseys before the merger?

Yeah, he played for Kentucky a few years back and was called such names as “The Hefty Lefty” and the “Pillsbury Throwboy.” Here’s some more pics:

Pic One
Pic Two
Pic Three
Pic Four
Pic Five

Could you imagine trying to sack this guy?

Vincent A. Cipollone said:

Yeah, he played for Kentucky a few years back and was called such names as “The Hefty Lefty” and the “Pillsbury Throwboy.” Here’s some more pics:

Could you imagine trying to sack this guy?

I actually like

“The Round Mound Of Touchdown”

billy said:

Vincent A. Cipollone said:

Yeah, he played for Kentucky a few years back and was called such names as “The Hefty Lefty” and the “Pillsbury Throwboy.” Here’s some more pics:

Could you imagine trying to sack this guy?

I actually like

“The Round Mound Of Touchdown”

You guys are totally forgetting his best nickname: J. Load

I’m fond of Battleship Lorenzen, myself. I also have a weak spot for QBs who wear numbers in the 20s, like Flutie, John Hadl, Bernie Kosar, and the like. Doesn’t Youngstown State’s QB wear #24 right now?

Eric said:

I’m fond of Battleship Lorenzen, myself. I also have a weak spot for QBs who wear numbers in the 20s, like Flutie, John Hadl, Bernie Kosar, and the like. Doesn’t Youngstown State’s QB wear #24 right now?


That he does

Re Ben’s question above: No NFL teams had names on their jerseys until 1970. It was one of the innovations introduced by the AFL in 1960. (I’m not sure if any colleges had had them before then; I seem to recall that Ohio State was the first to do so, but I don’t remember when.) Anyway, one of the merger points was that the old NFL teams would add names.

Many other issues had to be resolved, of course. Three that come to mind:
* Scoreboard clock became official, as in AFL.

* 2-point conversion eliminated, as in NFL — but reinstated later, of course.

* NFL “The Duke” ball becomes official. (Early Super Bowls had each offense use its own league’s ball, and the AFL ball was slightly slimmer.)

Probably more info than anyone needed….

Ben said:

Do you happen to know why the NFL followed the AFL’s lead and started putting names on the backs of all jerseys after the merger in 1970.

Also, and this may be a bit obscure, but did ANY NFL team have names on the backs of jerseys before the merger?

The NFL did it because of television. I could be wrong, but I don’t think any NFL teams did it pre-merger.

css said:

Sheffield United had to put a midfielder in goal today after their keeper was injured against Arsenal. A pic of the players changing shirts

Phil Jagielka is pretty much the Blades’ Emergency Goalkeeping Hologram these days… just surprising he doesn’t have his own goalkeeper shirt with a 6 yet.