New ESPN column today. I’ll add the link when it goes live. [Update: Oops, no ESPN column today after all -- it's been bumped to next week.]
Meanwhile, check out this coincidence: Yesterday’s Comments section included a bit of chatter about kickers who wear mismatched shoe colors (punters, too), which then segued into a discussion of barefoot kickers. I read some of those comments, and then I did some photo research for another column. And that’s when I came across some photos of Layne Neumann.
Neumann is the kicker for Texas A&M, and he does something I’ve never seen before: He kicks while wearing a sock (additional views here and here, the latter of which should appeal to those dirty-sock fetishists who flock to Witesock’s site). Anyone know of other kickers or punters who’ve done this?
Personally, I’ve always liked barefoot kickers. The ones who come most readily to mind are Rich Karlis (note his admirable attention to sock stripes, even on his bare leg), Tony Franklin (who did his college kicking at Texas A&M — perhaps he was an inspiration to Neumann?), and Mike Lansford. But here are some you might not know about:
• Johnson Lau: Lau grew up playing barefoot football — “a popular version of the gridiron sport in the pre-World War II days,” according to this article — and then became a standout barefoot placekicker, dropkicker, and punter in college and grad school during the 1940s. The Eagles encouraged him to enter the NFL draft in 1941, but he decided against it.
• Dick Kenney: Kenney, who grew up in Hawaii and kicked for Michigan State in the 1960s, nailed a 47-yard field goal in the 1966 “Game of the Century” between the Spartans and Notre Dame. He appears to be the only barefoot kicker who hit the ball straight-on, instead of soccer-style. Yowch! There’s some good info on him in this old article from Time (which also features cool info on lots of other 1960s kickers). And according to this page on the Helmet Hut web site, Kenney “never had pro football aspirations simply because of his unusual kicking style, which was not allowed in the NFL” — odd, since the Eagles had courted Johnson Lau two decades earlier. I’ve asked Helmet Hut prexy Curtis Worrell if he can clarify this — I’ll post an update when I hear back from him.
• Rob Hart: You might not realize that there was a barefoot kicker in the NFL just a few years ago. That would be Hart, who had a few cups of coffee with the Bucs and Dolphins in 2002 and 2004. He’s spent the rest of his career in NFL Europe.
• Andrew Sullivan: Sullivan kicked for Yale until graduating in 2005. He’s also in the running for the Worst Logo Creep Ever Award: According to this article (which is a good overview of barefoot kicking in general), he drew a Nike swoosh onto his bare foot before each game, which his coach praised as an admirably “team-oriented” move. Pardon me while I go slit my wrists.
Uni Watch Holiday Schedule: We’ll have an open thread tomorrow (I’ll take care of it, John), but I’ll have a regular entry on Friday, and maybe one on the weekend as well. Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.
Uni Watch News Ticker: Good breakdown of MLS unis here (courtesy of T.J. Zaremba). … Nice history of the Capitals’ jerseys here (gold star to Kim Kolb). … Moises Alou has worn No. 18 throughout his career — with the Expos, Marlins, Astros, Cubs, and Giants, and in the World Baseball Classic. When he signed with the Mets earlier this week, Jose Valentin readily agreed to give up his number. So Alou’s Mets press conference looked like this. … Great article here about fast food, airline, and other corporate uniforms (courtesy of Dominic Litten). … This suddenly makes a lot more sense, in light of this. … Bill Hickman, chairman of the Society for American Baseball Research’s Pictorial History Committee, has generously provided another photo of those odd Washington Senators uni numbers. … Holiday-themed note from Chris Donham: “Here’s something for people to look for during the 100th Easton-Phillipsburg high school football clash, which is being broadcast on ESPN2 at 9 a.m. on Thankgiving Day. The Easton Red Rovers are sporting throwback helmets this year. The football at the bottom of the white stripe has a number 9, which is in memory of Michael Cummings, who passed away on March 5, 2006. He was an 18-year-old junior quarterback on the Easton Area High football team.” More info and pics here and here. … Weird scene last night in Lawrence, as Kansas wore red alternate unis against Tennessee State, resulting in a red vs. blue game. … A big Uni Watch welcome to the new readers who’ve discovered this site via this MetaFilter link. Come on in — there’s plenty of beer in the fridge.
#1 by Parker on 11.22.06 9:06 am |
With the Civil War coming up, there’s a good article on oregonlive.com this morning involving a little trash talking centered around our favorite unis.
#2 by Joe O on 11.22.06 9:06 am |
You really gotta put a disclaimer on the links to this pic Its way too early for me to seeing that suddenly…can’t wait for the ESPN.com article…am I first?
#3 by Kevin on 11.22.06 9:23 am |
Since it’s that time of year, big thanks to Paul for continually giving us an entertaining read. And to everyone else for sharing their info as well.
#4 by Brian on 11.22.06 9:23 am |
I’ll be at that Easton-PBurg game, so I’ll try and get some pictures.
#5 by Rene on 11.22.06 9:24 am |
cant wait to see throwback unis tomorrow!!!
#6 by Richard on 11.22.06 9:28 am |
beer in the fridge? Paul, we’ve been reading for 6 months and NOW you tell us you have been in the fridge…gee, now we’re definitely coming over!
#7 by Parker on 11.22.06 9:29 am |
Richard said:
Ya, I’ll be in New York this weekend anyway… when should I stop by?
#8 by zep on 11.22.06 9:37 am |
Any special Thanksgiving NFL uni’s to report?
#9 by Joe O on 11.22.06 9:46 am |
zep said:
Boys and the kittens will be wearing theirs…My understanding is my phins won’t be…and the bucs never will…
#10 by Terry Mark on 11.22.06 9:46 am |
Oh, wow! Inconspicuous Consumption looks like something I could get lost in for a long time. Paul, that column appears to be a “classic,” as they say.
The pictures from the KU-Tennessee State game lead me to wonder if the NCAA has any sort of rule about uniforms. It’s the NCAA — they must have a rule (probably tons of them). It appears that at least in basketball, all teams are required to do is wear contrasting color and that there is not a stipulation that one team wear a “light” color.
Does anyone out there have any insight on this?
#11 by Texas_Islander on 11.22.06 9:48 am |
To add to the coincidence I’m traveling from down here in Canada (the home of 3/4 major sports reigning MVP’s) to Texas to see the Texas-Texas A&M game tomorrow. Now I’m going to fixated on the A&M kicker for the whole game. Thanks.
#12 by Kelli on 11.22.06 9:54 am |
Ok, this article just irritated me. Why they failed to mention the Marine Corps’ patented digital camo pattern, which came first after all, and mentioned the Army’s copied version is beyond me. Everyone wants to be one of us I suppose.
Getting off my Jarhead soapbox now. :)
#13 by Kelli on 11.22.06 10:00 am |
Texas_Islander said:
I would love to go to that game. I’ve been trying to get tickets for years, but have been unsuccessful. I am quite obviously sleeping with the wrong people.
#14 by Patrick O'Donnell on 11.22.06 10:05 am |
I guess my KC Chiefs won’t be wearing alternate unis. They have the same uni for decades, so, really, they always wear a throwback. Let’s just hope they never try this at home ever again.
#15 by JohnBoy on 11.22.06 10:09 am |
Anyone else notice that CNNSI just posted a photo gallery on the 10 worst dressed teams in sports?
They just can’t compete with Paul, although give credit to his review of the Mets black unis…
“Let’s face it: a paint-by-numbers fashion foul.”
#16 by Miguel on 11.22.06 10:09 am |
Kelli said:
It’s quite easy to get tickets to the Texas/aTm game.
All you have to do is donate $5000 to the Longhorn Foundation.
#17 by Luther Mahoney on 11.22.06 10:13 am |
Paul McFadden,who played for Buddy Ryan’s
Philadelphia Eagles in the mid 1980s,was a
barefoot kicker. He wore number 8.
#18 by Kelli on 11.22.06 10:15 am |
Patrick O’Donnell said:
It could be worse .
#19 by Kelli on 11.22.06 10:18 am |
Miguel said:
First, I’m an Aggie fan, and giving that much money to TAMUs arch rival would make me too ill to attend the game.
Second, I’m sure that if I’m patient enough, and live long enough, I will finally get to a game. And what a game that will be!
Gig ‘Em Aggies!
#20 by Miguel on 11.22.06 10:21 am |
Kelli said:
My bad.
Then all you would have to do is donate $2500 to the 12th Man Foundation.
#21 by Bouj on 11.22.06 10:23 am |
The MLS kit resource was nice, but the guy running it might want to include the kit of the newly-crowned champs on there. I’m just saying.
#22 by skott on 11.22.06 10:28 am |
i really do miss the old TB Bucs orange uni’s.
i remember them playing the Rams in the late 70s, i think 79 and just thinking how great that game looked.
remember vince ferragamo’s cool mask?
i loved that thing.
the 70’s had some great face masks. i remember the Vikings in particular had great ones…at least thats what i think i remember from my old football cards.
#23 by Dave on 11.22.06 10:29 am |
Bill Cowher is on the record as saying he will not wear a suit.
Any word on other coaches?
#24 by 13monkeys on 11.22.06 10:30 am |
For you collectors out there:
I can’t get a direct link to work, but if you go here and search under Bad News Bears you will find a production used Bad News uniform for sale at a reasonable price.
There is decent pinstriping but sadly… vinyl iron-on numbers.
#25 by Paul Lukas on 11.22.06 10:32 am |
Dave said:
I believe Tom Coughlin has also said that he’ll remain in the un-suited camp.
#26 by skott on 11.22.06 10:32 am |
Bill Belichick said he would.
#27 by DJL on 11.22.06 10:33 am |
Interesting article on NCAA Division II Chadron State College (Neb.)
This season, the Eagles played at Division I-AA Montana State this season and received a $40,000 payoff to make the nearly 1250-mile round trip.
Why did CSC need the money? For new uniforms and redesign of the school logo.
It boggles my mind why some schools even have football.
#28 by Adam in Chicago on 11.22.06 10:34 am |
I had a nice, long breakdown of the following topic eaten up by the security code bug, so here’s a summary:
Hurling, one of Ireland’s national sports, is – in addition to being a great game to both play and watch – pretty fascinating from a uni standpoint. Full Google image library here.
#29 by Adam in Chicago on 11.22.06 10:39 am |
Additional hurling pic: the fellow on the right should make any longtime UniWatcher shudder in horror. The mismatched helmet is the kicker, IMO. Yeuckh.
#30 by Joe O on 11.22.06 10:47 am |
JohnBoy said:
Check out yesterday’s comments
#31 by Warren Thompson on 11.22.06 10:55 am |
Adam in Chicago said:
Given that the snap shows a Gaelic hurling match, a mismatched helmet might not matter at the end. It, along with the rest of the kit, will likely be covered in gore. ;)
#32 by Tim B on 11.22.06 10:56 am |
skott said:
I really dug the Bucs old jerseys and helmets. It would be cool to see them dig this out of the attic for Thanksgiving.
I loved those 70’s face masks too.
Joe Willie
and Griese to name just two.
#33 by Joe Hilseberg on 11.22.06 10:57 am |
JohnBoy said:
They were talking about this on my local sports talk morning show today and they were taking calls on who the local fans thought were the worst. Some moron called and said the Maple Leafs and the Canadiens were the worst because they were too simple and too plain. I changed the station after that!
#34 by Rich on 11.22.06 11:05 am |
Patrick O’Donnell said:
I too, am growing tiresome of my team’s white on white combo too.
#35 by KT on 11.22.06 11:05 am |
Bouj said:
Done. Thanks.
Had Paul given me word you lot were coming over, I’d have straightened up. Now I’m going to have to spend the morning getting things sorted. :)
#36 by MetsFan AZ on 11.22.06 11:05 am |
Tim B said:
Love Broadway Joe’s! I thought the first QB to wear three bars was Aikman. Way behind…
#37 by John from KY on 11.22.06 11:10 am |
Tim B said:
That Namath mask was really from the late 50s or very early 60s – the equipment manager must have dug it out for him there toward the end of his career. He also wore that mask with the Rams the last year of his career.
Both the old cowcatcher Schutt masks and the Dungards are outlawed because the mask itself is screwed directly to the helmet and doesn’t flex like current ones attached by straps. The lack of flexability led to more neck injuries.
#38 by Chad S. on 11.22.06 11:11 am |
I was watching the American Music Awards last night and noticed something about the guitar player in Rascal Flatts. I was not sure if I was seeing things, but research this morning helped set my mind at ease, sort of. “Buckeyes” on his guitar!
Here is what I saw.
#39 by Adam in Chicago on 11.22.06 11:11 am |
More hurling:
Check out these nightmares!
#40 by DJL on 11.22.06 11:16 am |
Adam in Chicago said:
Since we mentioned rugby yesterday, and hurling today, I feel its necessary to bring up Gaelic football, which can be described as a combination of soccer and rugby. The professsional team uniforms would similarly described that way as well.
You can also learn about in this video.
#41 by Robert on 11.22.06 11:18 am |
Kelli said:
Semper Fi.
#42 by Mark on 11.22.06 11:22 am |
Chad S. said:
check out this article, it notes that two of the three members of rascal flatts attended the game and are from columbus. of course, the highlight of the article is that nickelback got shut out of tickets . . .but that is beside the point. great use of the buckeye stickers, wonder what rascal flatts did to merit the honors?
#43 by todd krevanchi (krvanch) on 11.22.06 11:24 am |
what? no pics of jared holley in the blog entry? the kid is incredible!
i’ll be at the 85th catasauqua vs. northampton game. we have been wearing throwback helmets the last 2 seasons honoring the the 1975 team last season and the 1981 team this season. unfortunately our game will only get radio coverage.
go rough riders!!!
#44 by Giancarlo on 11.22.06 11:24 am |
I love the Chiefs’ all-white look. Have to say, I really don’t get the general distaste for all-white on this board. To me it’s such a classic NFL look. How could you deny the power of this; this; or this?
#45 by Chris Hilf on 11.22.06 11:25 am |
13monkeys said:
Eh. Doesn’t say “Chico’s Bail Bonds” on it….
#46 by Josh on 11.22.06 11:26 am |
Saturday is the “Duel in the Desert” (AKA, Arizona vs. Arizona State football game)
Usually they wear some odd uni combination when these two teams get together.
I’d imagine Arizona will wear their red jersey / navy pants combo since they upset Cal wearing that combo during their last home game. ASU may come out in something different…Maybe all white or something?
#47 by Giancarlo on 11.22.06 11:26 am |
Sorry, here’s that third link.
#48 by Richard on 11.22.06 11:32 am |
Mark said:
Probably for the awards they have won, and continue to win. Jay, with the guitar, and Gary are from Columbus.
#49 by mg12 on 11.22.06 11:33 am |
Just curious, did anyone find an image of the Yale kicker with Nike logo drawn on his foot?
#50 by Andy #11 on 11.22.06 11:35 am |
Giancarlo said:
I don’t mind the all white as long as there are stripes on the pants or something.
There is no excuse for this though.
#51 by Kim on 11.22.06 11:39 am |
Josh said:
As an ASU Alum: Please God, no Bannana Uniforms (all ASU Gold/Yellow and with black shoes).
#52 by Brooks on 11.22.06 11:44 am |
It is from the television show that ran from 79 to 80, not from the movie.
#53 by Steve on 11.22.06 11:45 am |
Joe O said:
This is a disclaimer: bare man ass.
Yours wasn’t.
#54 by MetsFan AZ on 11.22.06 11:46 am |
Kim said:
This Wildcat would like to see U of A in White pants with either a red or blue jersey. Banana unis, or as they refer to them in Eugene – lemons, are not good. Has ASu ever worn all burgundy/maroon? Strictly from a uni perspective I think that might look ok. As a U of A alum I hate those colors.
#55 by Robert on 11.22.06 11:50 am |
Chris Hilf said:
I bought a quality Bad News Bears jersey from some guy in the Phillipines via ebay a year or so ago. It looks great, complete with the Chico’s logo. Long live ebay.
#56 by Robert on 11.22.06 11:52 am |
Giancarlo said:
I’m with you. I cannot fathom why so many people are down on the white/white. Even teams with horrible uniforms (Seattle, Buffalo) look marginally presentable when they don the white/white.
#57 by Minna H on 11.22.06 11:53 am |
Steve said:
Another disclaimer:
nice piece of ass, though most of you probably disagree.
Hey, Paul, you got any rum in that fridge of yours? I don’t drink beer.
#58 by Minna H on 11.22.06 11:55 am |
Andy #11 said:
I actually like the Texas white-on-white for some strange reason. In general, I don’t mind the whites, though the combo doesn’t look nearly as good as the blacks.
#59 by Minna H on 11.22.06 11:57 am |
Dave said:
Cowher shouldn’t wear a suit—not with all the spitting he does. He’d just mess it up, and he’d probably rip a hole in it with all the energetic thrashing he does as well.
Hey, most of you are guys. Why the useless button on the bottom of the suitcoat? It doesn’t really add anything aesthetically, and it’s not meant to be buttoned, so why bother?
#60 by Paul Lukas on 11.22.06 12:00 pm |
mg12 said:
Artist’s rendering.
#61 by Andy #11 on 11.22.06 12:06 pm |
Minna H said:
Whenever I see Texas wearing their all whites, it looks to me like they’re playing in pajamas.
#62 by Minna H on 11.22.06 12:06 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
You slay me, Paul. You absolutely slay me. Shouldn’t the swoosh be white, though? I’m just saying….
#63 by MetsFan AZ on 11.22.06 12:07 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Glad the wrist bleeding stopped. Do you still have that team b’ball photo with the kid with the swoosh tattoo? I think it was pre-blog days. That is hands down the ultimate logo creep.
#64 by skott on 11.22.06 12:08 pm |
the way the kicker’s leg is bent his whole leg is a nike swoosh.
#65 by Minna H on 11.22.06 12:08 pm |
Andy #11 said:
Andy, maybe that’s why I like it! Nice….
#66 by Daniel on 11.22.06 12:08 pm |
So Dallas and Detroit are going to wear throwbacks tomorrow, but Miami and Tampa aren’t? Thanksgiving is supposed to be throwback day for all teams playing. It just doesn’t seem right.
#67 by John on 11.22.06 12:14 pm |
The NCAA basketball rules (Rule 3, Sec. 5, Art. 12) state that “Opposing team colors must be of contrasting colors,” and that the home team must wear its light kit and the away team wear its dark kit. It seems that A.R. 19 states that if the two teams have the same color kit the home team should wear its light kit, but that on neutral territory, the referees are to decide whether or not the uniforms worn are appropriately “contrasting.”
All of this doesn’t seem to make much sense in the case of the KU – Tennessee St game, since the game was in Lawrence. It seems that KU should have been wearing their white home unis, while Tennessee ST wore its away blue ones. How are the red alternates not considered “dark” uniforms? Shouldn’t the refs have made the KU players change to their white uniforms?
Any thoughts?
#68 by KT on 11.22.06 12:17 pm |
I don’t believe the Bucs have ever worn their throwbacks since going to pewter and red, have they?
I have a creamsickle orange Doug Williams throwback that I may wear to Thanksgiving dinner just because.
#69 by Paul Lukas on 11.22.06 12:17 pm |
Minna H said:
There are lots of “useless” buttons throughout men’s and women’s clothing. Lots of shirts and blouses have a top button at the collar, even though they’re rarely if ever buttoned all the way to the top. Most men’s and women’s suit jackets have buttons on the sleeve cuffs, sometimes with faux-buttonhole stitching, but it’s rare that these are actually functional buttons with real buttonholes (and rarer still that anyone ever actually unbuttons them). The left-lapel buttonhole on a men’s suit jacket (the one sometimes used for a boutonnaire) corresponds to a button that used to be common on the right lapel. Some men’s shirts still have a back collar button, a vestigal remnant from the days when collars were separate items that literally had to be buttoned onto the shirt. The bottom button of a vest is traditionally never buttoned. Men’s pants (including baseball pants!) often have button-thru rear pockets that are rarely if ever buttoned. Same goes for the upper-right buttons on double-breasted men’s suit jackets.
What’s this all about? Style. Buttons look cool, and they help to define and segment space. If you’ve ever seen a man wearing a one-button jacket, it becomes obvious why jackets normally have two or three buttons, even if they aren’t all used.
#70 by Chris on 11.22.06 12:21 pm |
Minna H said:
The bottom button almost always serves as a guide. When you leave the bottom button undone the jacket fits properly. When you button all of the buttons on a suit jacket it tends to bunch up around the chest and shoulders, I think del rio had this problem.
#71 by Rich on 11.22.06 12:24 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
heh! Four toes and a talon!
#72 by MetsFan AZ on 11.22.06 12:29 pm |
#73 by MetsFan AZ on 11.22.06 12:31 pm |
Sorry for the misquote in #72. I was trying to avoid the multi-screen post and edit the quote all cool-like like PL does. Woefully short.
#74 by Nick Maibroda on 11.22.06 12:32 pm |
MetsFan AZ said:
I am not sure this is the player you had in mind, but he is one of the star players on Concordia’s basketball team. Even Canada is not safe from logo creep.
#75 by Patrick O'Donnell on 11.22.06 12:35 pm |
Robert said:
Just to clarify, I don’t mind the Chiefs in white/white, but it should never happen at home. The Chiefs have ALWAYS worn red at home, and it should stay that way. When they came out in all white for the opening game at home this year, everyone here in KC was mad. Bad start for Herm Edwards. Lose the game and Trent Green for half the season. I don’t think the all whites will make an appearance at Arrowhead for a long time.
#76 by todd krevanchi (krvanch) on 11.22.06 12:35 pm |
DISCLAIMER: THIS IS NOT UNI-RELATED
from yesterday…
Andy from KC said:
well you dont speak for this member of uniwatch nation.
NEVER want to see his name? why? because he made an error in judgement?
many athletes have skeletons in their closets and have made mistakes and have regrets. but, you know what? so do we.
im sure there is a percentage of people who read and post on this blog who have been cited with DUI as well. should we NEVER want to see them here?
in recent SI articles it was listed that 2 pro bowl nfl players, ray lewis and chad johnson, have children with multiple women. do they count too?
i dont condone much of the behavior that we see from athletes on major media outlets. but these things happen to regular “mortals” too. its just that i wont see the little blurb in the police reports section of the local paper that says, john from knob, arkansas also had a DUI that same day.
yes DUI has impacted all of us either directly or indirectly during our lives, but jeez, to ban bryant from the board?
sorry, that post just got to me…
#77 by al on 11.22.06 12:39 pm |
Patrick O’Donnell said:
What’s wrong w/ the Chef’s white on white look? It’s sweet, the pants stripes standout so much more that way, and you can’t be red/gold as a combo. Don’t be down, be proud of your Chefs, baby.
#78 by Dan Rosenbaum on 11.22.06 12:40 pm |
I recall that the Jets had a punter, possibly Chuck Ramsey, who used to wear a sock on his kicking foot, but I could not find a photo. Does that sound familiar to anyone?
#79 by Joe O on 11.22.06 12:43 pm |
Andy #11 said:
I’ll second the pajama opinion…I am a huge fins fan and love the white/white combo. The fins wear alot of white every year. I hated the aqua/aqua combo they’ve worn a couple times…
#80 by al on 11.22.06 12:43 pm |
skott said:
Skott,
Yer a youngster :)
Ferragamos’ mask was made by schutt and represents half of Larry CZonka’s famous mask (it’s just missing the nose bar on top). The Vikings linemen you allude to wore the schutt facemasks as well, check out the Helmet Hut for all the funky masks from the days when the NFL was truly football.
Later.
#81 by Ian K on 11.22.06 12:51 pm |
Andy #11 said:
I think Texas looks like they’re wearing pajamas because the pants lack a stripe. The KC Chiefs have a stripe, which breaks up the look a bit.
#82 by Taylor on 11.22.06 12:52 pm |
KT said:
I think it looks good. Why is everybody against white/white football jerseys it seems?
#83 by Andy #11 on 11.22.06 12:55 pm |
todd krevanchi (krvanch) said:
I think the reason Andy from KC didn’t want to see Bryant’s name here again is because it always seems to be linked to a picture of his naked arse! Not because he was arrested for dui…
#84 by Minna H on 11.22.06 12:59 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Paul, thanks for the comprehensive reply. You are correct, of course, that there are numerous examples of frivolous buttons in clothing. I think it’s because I hadn’t known about such a common one (the suit, bottom button) that I was thrown for such a loop. Thanks for slapping some sense back into me.
#85 by Kevin on 11.22.06 1:00 pm |
Joe Hilseberg said:
That poor guy, he probably goes to work everyday in a purple polo shirt tucked into his black jeans.
#86 by Minna H on 11.22.06 1:00 pm |
Chris said:
Chris, this makes good sense, too. I knew I could count on you guys. Thanks!
#87 by Minna H on 11.22.06 1:03 pm |
MetsFan AZ said:
MetsFanAZ, I liked your reply best of all, though it doesn’t answer my question. I like hearing weird tidbits like this.
p.s. I know this isn’t the right post, but I don’t want to get caught in the endless loop of italics.
#88 by Adam on 11.22.06 1:05 pm |
I’m sure you probably saw this, being that it was on ESPN Page 2 and everything, but according to TMQ’s readership, the Jaguars’ alternate unis aren’t black, but Brunswick Green. Your thoughts?
#89 by todd krevanchi (krvanch) on 11.22.06 1:10 pm |
if thats the case then my apologies. since both NEVER wanting to see him again, and the DUI article were in the same sentence, i read it as 1 subject or thought.
#90 by MetsFan AZ on 11.22.06 1:11 pm |
Adam said:
reminded me of “Yankee blue” (black) and “Lakers blue” (purple). At least they don’t go all J.Crew on us and call white “chalk” and navy “cadet”. although Padres uni’s do come in “sand”…
#91 by John from KY on 11.22.06 1:12 pm |
al said:
Al, you should recheck Helmet Hut – those were Dungard masks, not Schutt. Also, I can’t see the Ferrigamo photo (blocked where I’m at right now) but I primarily remember him wearing the same model that Csonka wore, not the smaller version worn by Bob Griese and Terry Bradshaw (although Bradshaw switched to the version that mounted all the way at the top of the helmet by the time they made their first Super Bowl).
#92 by Andrew F on 11.22.06 1:15 pm |
Andy #11 said:
Yeah, seriously. The less man-ass I see, the better…
(obligatory link)
#93 by Joe O on 11.22.06 1:16 pm |
MetsFan AZ said:
Sorry…the jags jerseys are black…TMQ calls a lot of different things wierd names (jersey/a and jersey/b for example).
The Jags wore black helmets, black pants, and black jerseys…
#94 by Minna H on 11.22.06 1:20 pm |
Andy #11 said:
Andy #11, that’s how I read it, too. It seemed like that pic of Bryant’s buns was being posted on here every other day for a while. Me, I don’t mind seeing it over and over again, but I presume most folk on this site feel differently.
#95 by Minna H on 11.22.06 1:24 pm |
Addendum: If someone could post a pic (not photoshopped) of Troy P.’s ass, I’d be much obliged. Teebz? Hear that? It would make a satisfactory substitute for my Christmas present. Not as good as the real thing, of course, but beggars must not be choosers. And I’m begging….
#96 by Jason on 11.22.06 1:24 pm |
John said:
You can throw the rulebook out when the Buckeyes play the Dons apparently.
#97 by Beefalo on 11.22.06 1:24 pm |
Very interesting article today (by way of Deadspin) about goings-on at North Texas. After being fired, coach Darryl Dickey changed out the team uniforms for the last game to a generic black jersey that had no logos (conference, school or anything else) on it without telling anyone affiliated with the school that he was going to do it.
North Texas Meltdown
#98 by GoTerriers on 11.22.06 1:26 pm |
MetsFan AZ said:
Not sure what Yankees uniforms you’re looking at, but the pinstripes are most definitely navy blue, not black. Put a Yanks home jersey next to a White Sox home jersey and you can clearly see the differece (although now that I look at it, these pictures don’t quite do the contrast justice!)
#99 by Josh on 11.22.06 1:30 pm |
MetsFan AZ said:
The game is in Tucson, so you probably won’t see the Scum Devils in a colored jersey…that’s why I’m thinking an all white combo. The “banana look” was done in Tempe I believe. And, I think I recall them wearing all maroon before.
For tradition’s sake I like the Cats in navy jerseys / white pants…but as I said before, due to the fact that we beat Cal in the red tops / navy pants combo during our last home game, I’d imagine that is what we’ll see this weekend.
I think the UofA athletic dept. is slowly trying to phase out navy as the primary color…the football team now has red jerseys and we rarely see the hoops team wear navy anymore.
#100 by Minna H on 11.22.06 1:33 pm |
Beefalo said:
Beefalo, thanks for this fascinating article. I am torn. I love the all-black look, and the coach did look sharp next to his team, and I can’t get too bent out of shape about screwing over a marketing company, but….It just wasn’t right. It was a bush league move done to assuage the ego of a fired coach, and he should have found a way to protest that didn’t involve the team.
#101 by MetsFan AZ on 11.22.06 1:37 pm |
#102 by Justin on 11.22.06 1:37 pm |
San Diego State men’s basketball team debuted their red alternate jersey last night against UC Riverside. I thought it looked kinda cool, but that’s just one student’s opinion.
Front view: One, Two
Side view
Back view
Also, this is the logo on the collar.
#103 by MetsFan AZ on 11.22.06 1:40 pm |
MetsFan AZ said:
re: #101 I did it again.
#104 by ACC (the Brain) on 11.22.06 1:43 pm |
Terry Mark said:
I am fine with red vs. blue or something like that in college only. It reminds me of youth basketball or CYO when you only getone jersey for the whole season.
There shouldn’t be such strict rules for NCAA teams.
#105 by Minna H on 11.22.06 1:49 pm |
You can vote for the angry homeless man’s sweatshirt being the Turkey of the Year on ESPN:
gobble gobble
#106 by Teebz on 11.22.06 1:50 pm |
Sorry, Minna. Me + anything NFL = disasterous results for anyone involved.
As for the Christmas gift, I am further away from Pittsburgh than you are. ;o)
#107 by Beefalo on 11.22.06 1:51 pm |
Minna H,
I think the thing that struck me the most about the North Texas story was that he was able to do it without anyone in the athletic department catching on.
I don’t have much sympathy for the conference or the marketing sponsors, although it is kind of shady for the players to lose the names off the backs of their jerseys for their last home game.
#108 by Minna H on 11.22.06 1:55 pm |
Beefalo said:
Well, with one coach strangling another, I think it’s safe to say that is one messed up athletic department. Yeah, it’s only the kids I feel sorry for.
#109 by Minna H on 11.22.06 1:56 pm |
Teebz said:
Sigh. Then I guess I’ll just have to keep hating on Christmas, T. Cratchit.
M. Scrooge.
#110 by Pat on 11.22.06 1:56 pm |
Justin said:
I don’t mind the uniforms. I enjoy the vertical arching/horizontal lettering look that surrounds the front numbers. My only real beef is the backs of the jersey. The lettering for the names needs to be MUCH bigger. And maybe the numbers too. The names look like the are drowning in a sea of red. The bigger letters might help the number look a little better.
#111 by Josh on 11.22.06 1:57 pm |
A possible memorial on Arizona’s jerseys or helmets may be in the works on Saturday.
Former Wildcat defensive back Zaharius Johnson passed away from colon Cancer on Tuesday.
He was only 27. He played for UofA from 1999-2001 and worked for the athletic dept as an academic counselor.
Story
#112 by Giancarlo on 11.22.06 1:58 pm |
I think chefs should always go with the all-white look as well. Who could deny the power of this?
#113 by ACC (the Brain) on 11.22.06 1:59 pm |
Giancarlo said:
I have no problem with it. Exceptions: 49ers in 1996 – that was bad and it only lasted a year thank God. and the Rams last week was a bit weird.
Titans tried it a few weeks ago and they had the white helmet on top of it. Colts and Dolphins seem to do it and the Cardinals from time to time.
#114 by Kim on 11.22.06 2:04 pm |
Beefalo said:
You know, NTU isn’t exactly known for it’s smarts.
#115 by Kim on 11.22.06 2:17 pm |
ACC (the Brain) said:
As long as the colors contrast enough, it shouldn’t matter for any level of any sport.
We’ve all got color TV’s now, and don’t need to worry about which shade of gray a particular team is anymore.
#116 by KT on 11.22.06 2:26 pm |
Kim said:
Irony.
#117 by Patrick O'Donnell on 11.22.06 2:32 pm |
al said:
See comment 75. I like the look just not at home. The stripes all match and it looks nice. But the Chiefs should ALWAYS wear red at home.
On another note, it’s always bothered me that the helmet arrowhead has black trim while the uni has yellow. The arrowhead needs to “ditch the black.” All and all though, the Chiefs’ uni are vastly underrated in my opinion.
#118 by Jackie on 11.22.06 2:33 pm |
How about this for logo creep. Dontrelle Willis has tatooed the logo of his agent. See this link http://images.rodale... which is pretty lenghty but describes why he did it.
At least the kicker could wash off his Nike Swoosh.
#119 by Broker75 on 11.22.06 2:37 pm |
Joe Hilseberg said:
How could anyone cut up an original six uniform??!What’s this world coming to.wow
#120 by Brinke Guthrie on 11.22.06 2:43 pm |
Luther Mahoney said:
Speaking of the Iggles…does this make sense?
Foxsports:
“Quarterback Jeff Garcia will replace Donovan McNabb as Philadelphia Eagles starting night quarterback Sunday against Indianapolis.”
So he just starts the nighttime games. I see.
#121 by todd krevanchi (krvanch) on 11.22.06 2:45 pm |
last week i suggested the idea of having an end of the year ekky awards. with minna’s talk of getting polamol-ass as a christmas gift, that got me wondering what each of us other bloggers would get for xmas from paul or other readers.
#122 by Broker75 on 11.22.06 2:46 pm |
Here we go side by side. sheesh
#123 by Minna H on 11.22.06 2:53 pm |
todd krevanchi (krvanch) said:
todd, I want all of Troy P., not just his ass. You don’t get anything for Christmas because the Cardinals won the World Series.
I think another intriguing question is what we’d get Paul. I have to think about it.
Oh! Houndstooth coat for Clay. Nordique sweater for Teebz. A Giants’ win for Ek. I’m sure I’ll think of more.
#124 by mg12 on 11.22.06 2:53 pm |
Nick Maibroda said:
Thanks for the sketch Paul. You are quite the artist. I was looking for some swoosh tattoos. I seem to remember seeing a couple NBA players with some, but I came up empty.
I did come across these jewels.
http://content.answe...
http://images.google...
#125 by Matthew S. on 11.22.06 2:56 pm |
#126 by MetsFan AZ on 11.22.06 2:57 pm |
mg12 said:
Is one of those Ek?
#127 by Broker75 on 11.22.06 3:00 pm |
Do this collar qualify for the MLB collared uni’s back in the day?
#128 by Minna H on 11.22.06 3:03 pm |
For the special woman in Paul’s life:
striped goodness
or here:
more stripes
or here:
my personal favorite
Merry Christmas, Paul!
#129 by Chistopher on 11.22.06 3:03 pm |
Concerning the Long Names discussions that we hae here, I just found a soccer doozy.
Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink plays for Celtic in the Scottish Premier League. Since Celtic put their names on the back of their jerseys, he has what amounts to a hyphenated name on the back of his jersey as you can see here on the tops of his Wikipedia page
here
what is interesting is that other Celtic players do not have a arched name, instead their names are straight
here
I’m hoping to find a better picture of his nameplate to post here later.
#130 by Minna H on 11.22.06 3:10 pm |
Chistopher said:
Christopher, this has been mentioned before. Here are some pics:
really long name
my god is it long
does it ever end?
#131 by Joe Hilseberg on 11.22.06 3:11 pm |
COOL WEBSITE ALERT!!!
Check out these retro soccer jerseys for sale!
#132 by Kevin K on 11.22.06 3:44 pm |
so i thought the lions were wearing their black unis tomorrow? are they going throwback?
#133 by diz on 11.22.06 3:46 pm |
Minna H said:
a few years ago, they had a goalkeeper called Javier Sanchez Broto, who took up two lines. Still looking for a pic from then
#134 by todd krevanchi (krvanch) on 11.22.06 3:46 pm |
Minna H said:
…and the tarheels are #2 in the nation, AND DOOK LOST LAST NIGHT!!!! but c’mon, i still want a gift! i dont want the anthracite/bituminous option. something in a size, sue bird i’ll take.
#135 by Broker75 on 11.22.06 3:55 pm |
Is this you Minna? If it is, HOW YOU doing..wink
#136 by Austin Gray on 11.22.06 4:07 pm |
The red vs blue argument reminds me of when UCLA and USC used to play each other in the ’70s or ’80s, and both teams wore their home unis because both teams were playing at home. The jerseys fully fit the requirements of being high-contrast, and it allowed both teams to wear their hallowed colors. I like it.
#137 by KT on 11.22.06 4:16 pm |
If that’s Minna, you can see one of her naughty bits. ;)
#138 by Broker75 on 11.22.06 4:28 pm |
Coming Soon to the NFL.
#139 by Warren Thompson on 11.22.06 4:41 pm |
Austin Gray said:
Yes, and even earlier both teams employed a version of the single-wing, and that made for an interesting game to watch. You never knew which back would eventually end up as the ultimate ball-carrier.
(BTW I assume UCLA was the very first team to sport jersey shoulder-stripes.)
#140 by Paul Lukas on 11.22.06 4:48 pm |
mg12 said:
This seems like a good time to revive the third entry ever to appear on this blog — look here.
#141 by Burrill Strong on 11.22.06 5:16 pm |
For Christmas, I think I would get Minna the North Stars and Lakers.
Also, I would get Paul some antidepressants for the Mets. It might help them Ditch the Black.
#142 by Minna H on 11.22.06 5:27 pm |
Broker75 said:
Broker75, color the hair black (’coz I ‘m Asian), make the eyes slightly smaller, and I still wouldn’t look that hot!
#143 by Minna H on 11.22.06 5:30 pm |
todd krevanchi (krvanch) said:
todd, the best I can do:
tasty bird
You get me Polamalu, and I’ll see what I can do about Sue.
#144 by Minna H on 11.22.06 5:32 pm |
KT said:
KT, she’s one big naughty bit. Nice site, by the way. Did we Uni-Watch it?
#145 by Minna H on 11.22.06 5:33 pm |
Burrill Strong said:
Ahhh, Burrill. That is much more realistic than *sigh* Troy P. For you, I’d get a rematch between OSU and Michigan for the national championship.
#146 by Brian from Short Island on 11.22.06 5:40 pm |
Chistopher said:
Ahh, Hoops talk…
In the SPL, just like in the EPL, all teams use the same size and shape numbers during league play. Therefore, they can’t shrink VoH’s name, so they arch it.
C’mon the Hoops!
#147 by Andy from KC on 11.22.06 5:42 pm |
Minna H said:
Yes, that’s it exactly. Sorry if it wasn’t more clear. I’m not judging Bryant on the basis of his DUI, I just don’t want to see his ass anymore!
:)
#148 by Minna H on 11.22.06 5:53 pm |
Tattoo branding at its finest. I don’t know whether to laugh or cry:
may cause indigestion
The salient part:
“I used to believe that a good product sold itself,” says Knight, who like many of his employees sports a Nike “swoosh” tattoo, his on his left calf.
Then the killer, also from Knight:
“When I first went to meet with Wieden and Kennedy [Nike's Portland-based ad agency], I told them: ‘I don’t like advertising.’ And I’m still uneasy with it.”
#149 by Giancarlo on 11.22.06 6:11 pm |
ACC (the Brain) said:
Notice how you phrased that – as if wearing white on white is a special thing that teams “do” or “try.” Whereas that look was for years in the NFL & AFL essentially the default ensemble for away unis & some teams’ home unis.
I agree, though, that it doesn’t always work. This year’s Redskins wear one of the most hideous unis I’ve ever seen in the pros, even without adding a Nike-type design element to actively uglify it a la the Broncos.
I wonder if in the future it will be considered noteworthy when a MLB team wears all-whites.
#150 by Shane on 11.22.06 6:21 pm |
Joe Hilseberg said:
Another good retro soccer shirt site (wicked alliteration) is Toffs. I got a really nice 1958 Man United shirt from there.
#151 by ACC (the Brain) on 11.22.06 6:40 pm |
Giancarlo said:
Yes exactly. Back in the 60s there were not as many uni combos and I doubt much thought went into the color pants for each game. But these days in all sports players and coaches want to have a say in every aspect of their unis every game. Baseball more so than football but football too with respect to pants. Don’t forget the Colts were blue-pants during Marchibroda years, Dolphins wore aqua pants during the late Shula years. Someone had to decide to go back to white.
#152 by bj on 11.22.06 7:34 pm |
forgive me if this has been mentioned previously, because it’s new to me.
since ESPN is showing a bunch of highlights related to Thanksgiving, they’ve shown the Flutie Hail Mary play a bunch. But having seen this play for years (as a UM fan no less), I just noticed that nobody ever told Flutie how to put his chinstrap on properly.
As you can see here, Flutie was wearing his chinstrap over the side of his facemask, a doofus move that makes his football abilities even more improbable.
Later in his career, when there were professionals who handled his equipment, Flutie corrected his problem.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything as dorky looking done by someone as well-respected as Flutie is.
#153 by Eric G. on 11.22.06 7:45 pm |
Holy shit.
The worst of both worlds. [college football, women's wear]
Prepare your guns.
#154 by Jeff on 11.22.06 7:52 pm |
Eric G. said:
Wow. That’s awful!
#155 by Minna H on 11.22.06 8:52 pm |
Matthew S., thanks for adding another great sleeve button story. According to this, however, neither can be true:
unhand my buttons!
The pertinent paragraph:
There is no reason to believe that Frederick the Great (ruler of Prussia from 1740 to 1786) caused buttons to be sewn onto his soldier’s clothing to prevent them from wiping their noses on their sleeves. Though it is a good story, earlier paintings of men wearing buttons on their sleeves make this fanciful explanation difficult to accept. The coat sleeve is unbuttoned in a painting by Jean-Baptiste-Simeon Chardin, (French 1699-1779, “The House of Cards, c. 1735); and a man wearing a coat with many buttons as fasteners to a close-fitting lower sleeve (Franz Hals, Dutch c. 1580-1666, “Portrait of an Officer, c. 1640) show functional usage well before that date.
Damn. I like the ‘no wiping your nose on your sleeve’ explanation.
#156 by KT on 11.22.06 9:04 pm |
ACC (the Brain) said:
IIRC (and I covered the team then), they wore the blue pants in the 1995 home opener, played horribly and lost to Cincinnati and put them away.
#157 by Allison on 11.22.06 9:04 pm |
Since I’ve been lurking around this site only for a month, I’m not sure how much you talk about biking. But their uniforms usually make me laugh, cringe, do a double-take, or sometimes all three.
Just found this on Sports Illustrated’s “Turkey of the Year” photo collection. Of course, I have seen worse.
I can’t wait to see what you guys talk about during the Tour de France…
#158 by Minna H on 11.22.06 9:11 pm |
Allison said:
Allison, we don’t usually talk about biking, but I’m sure there will be people more than willing to contribute if you do. When I saw that pic of Landis, I did a double-take. The color, the team in huge lettering and repeated everywhere, but mostly, the crotch emphasis….Waaay too much info, even for me.
#159 by Allison on 11.22.06 9:46 pm |
Minna H said:
I’m not that into biking or talking about it, but the uni caught my attention. Good to see I’m not the only one disturbed by the crotch emphasis.
Happy (slightly early) Thanksgiving to everyone!
#160 by Noonan on 11.22.06 10:12 pm |
Andy #11 said:
I agree, stripes make the difference. The other BIG difference to me is white unis didn’t stay white (unless you were playing at Houston) in the 70s. There is too much turf today, whites stay white and that’s just unnatural to me when watching football.
#161 by Zach on 11.22.06 10:17 pm |
I know there was the issue of windbreakers under jerseys a few weeks ago and I found another interesting case. I was watching ESPN classic which was showing the 1995 Florida – Florida State game. All of the sudden, they show the Florida punter with a windbreaker on under his jersey. It did not look like it would be easy if there was a bad snap. I was wondering if anyone would know where to find a photo of this?
#162 by Burrill on 11.22.06 11:19 pm |
Minna H said:
You’re too kind. I can’t accept that! Well, okay, maybe I can.
I think I would get Teebz a return to Canada for the Stanley Cup this year.
#163 by Al on 11.22.06 11:43 pm |
John from KY said:
I think Joe Willie donned the Schutt cowcatcher right after the supe’ victory. Later on, in the twilight of his career he used another 3 bar mask that is more squared off and appears to be a older brother of the Marino/aikman/Kelly 3 bar mask.
#164 by Minna H on 11.22.06 11:53 pm |
Burrill said:
That’s an excellent present for Teebz. As for you, maybe a new lens for your camera so you can take pics at the Michigan-OSU rematch? I like your site, Burrell. You have a good eye. Hell, you have two good eyes and a nice beard, too.
#165 by Matt on 11.23.06 12:02 am |
As a Dolphin fan, I second comment #79- love white on white, hate aqua on aqua. So does Nick Saben; I read in the Miami Herald last year that he prefers the all-white look, so the aqua pants the Dolphins used to wear on the road are probably gone for good. White on white also looks good on the Colts, IMO.
#166 by Al on 11.23.06 12:08 am |
John from KY said:
Thanks John, I was operating strictly on memory… bad move, uh?
I share your assumption that Vince was wearing the Czonka model during the Rams/Steelers game. funny, I always think back to Bradshaw’s career and consider the shift from the small Dungard to the more modern facemask as the ‘demarkation point’in the Steelers from a smashmouth team to a more dynamic passing team…. (sorry, i’m babbling.)
#167 by Minna H on 11.23.06 12:25 am |
I am thankful for:
Cy Young winner
Batting Champ
MVP
Troy Polamalu’s fine …hair
Mostly, in the realm of sports, I am grateful to this guy for the best damn uni-watching site ever. Thanks for all your hard work, Paul, and thanks, guys, for all the spirited discussions. May all you (Amercians) enjoy Turkey Day, and may the kitties wear these tomorrow, which will please me to no end.
Have fun, and be safe y’all.
#168 by matt1977 on 11.23.06 12:38 am |
Browns to wear some pretty neat throwbacks this weekend.
#169 by matt1977 on 11.23.06 12:39 am |
#170 by matt1977 on 11.23.06 12:41 am |
#171 by matt1977 on 11.23.06 12:42 am |
I’m obviously an idiot and can’t post links. It was easier w/o the button.
#172 by Burrill on 11.23.06 1:38 am |
Minna H said:
Hey, I never turn down a new lens. You caught me in the right mood, too; I just photographed a high school hockey game tonight. I forgot how much fun that was.
(Most common comment about my beard: “It’s really getting long.”)
Uni comment: Chelsea wore dark blue uniforms with diagonal (yellow) lettering. The lettering was nice, but I wasn’t sure about the thick yellow stripes at the bottom. I might have gone with thinner stripes. But they’re still pleasant unis. I’ll post a shot after I process the pictures. Since we’ve seen lots of high school football unis, I figure I’ll try to start a parade of high school hockey unis.
#173 by Terry Mark on 11.23.06 1:43 am |
Minna H said:
Minna H, I never would have pegged you as Asian since, you know, we all look alike. ;-) Happy Thanksgiving from one Asian Uni-freak to another.
By the way, I know I’m relatively new around here (I’ve posted a handful of times but have mostly lurked), but can someone get for me a sixth NCAA title for my beloved Indiana HOosiers?
#174 by Terry Mark on 11.23.06 1:44 am |
Oops! I mean Hoosiers. Typing too fast!
#175 by Minna H on 11.23.06 2:15 am |
Terry Mark said:
Terry Mark, you’re Asian, too? Cool! A Midwest Asiad person to boot. Nifty. I will work on the Hoosier champianship for you if you work on any MN championship for me. Would love a World Series most of all, but again, beggars can’t be choosers.
Or you can get me this:
y u m
I thought I was the only Asian. If there are more of us out there (especially females), give a shout-out please. Power to the people.
p.s. Mark in Shiga, you get honorary membership into the club, mostly because your girlfriend has an awesome name.
#176 by Minna H on 11.23.06 2:22 am |
Burrill said:
Burrill, you know we like the hockey on this site. Well, some of us do, anyway. I like the beard because it adds character to your face. As for long, my hair goes down to my ass, so your beard didn’t seem that long to me.
You should post more pics here—I like your style.
#177 by Michael Churchill on 11.23.06 8:40 am |
I think it’s great that Rob Hart got a namecheck. I followed his career because he is from my hometown (Southampton, England). Rob still holds the career scoring record in NFL Europe. Because he was not American and “National” players (as they are known) are guaranteed a certain number of roster spots, he stayed in the league from 1998 (with the England Monarchs) to 2004 (with the Scottish Claymores) and scored 361 points (that’s in a 10 game season, by the way), all of them barefooted.
Few US players stay in NFL Europe for more than a couple of years because after that they either find a job in the NFL (like Kurt Warner, Jake Delhomme, Adam Vinatieri etc.) or realise that they’re never going to make it.
#178 by My Name is Not Earl on 11.23.06 8:46 am |
So I’m watching Sportscenter, and they’re showing a Texas Tech basketball practice. Bob Knight is wearing a St. Louis Cardinals pullover, and prominently displayed is a Nike swoosh. That probably won’t sit well with Tech’s uniform supplier (adidas, in case you were wondering).
#179 by old school on 11.23.06 12:22 pm |
Back around 1980 Tulane had a barefoot kicker…and he kicker straight-on! I saw him when they played at Georgia Tech.
#180 by Acc (the brain) on 11.23.06 3:09 pm |
Matt said:
You mean gone for good before Saban is asked to seek employment elsewhere? I predict aqua pants will return in my lifetime.