A few days ago I discussed how the NBA’s new game ball could have potentially wide-ranging implications for the all teams that have balls depicted in their logos. As you may recall, NBA VP Christopher Arena said he didn’t anticipate any immediate logo changes, and he provided a good historical antecedent:
If you look closely at the Celtics logo, you’ll see that the ball is the pre-1970 four-panel ball. They never changed the logo when the ball became eight-panel. The eight-panel basketball is still a basketball, and represents a point in time when the franchise was created, or at least when the logo was created.
That got reader Alex Gordon thinking. For starters, as he points out, “According to the logos over at LogoServer, the Celtics had two versions of their logo in 1968 — one with the four-panel ball depicted and one with an eight-panel ball. Also, I wanted to see what other teams did once the league switched game ball designs in 1970.”
So he started digging. Here’s his analysis:
Interestingly, the Bullets, despite changing their logo from Baltimore to Capital (’73-’74) to Washington (’74-’75), never changed the design of the ball, keeping the old ball design until they became the Wizards. Yet the original Bullets logo from 1963-69 appears to show an eight-panel ball.
The Royals/Kings franchise also seemed to depict a fragment of the old four-panel ball [here are the versions used when the team was in Cincy, KC/Omaha, KC, and Sacramento], even though this logo design wasn’t in use until 1971-72, by which time the eight-panel ball had been introduced.
The logos used by the Sonics in the early 1970s and from the mid-’70s through the mid-’90s, and by the Jazz — first in New Orleans and then in Utah — also appear to depict a four-panel rather than eight-panel ball.
There seem to be other pre-1970 anomalies in which an eight-panel
design appears, even though the league had not yet adopted that game ball. These include late-1960s Bucks, the 1960 Mpls. Lakers, and the late-1960s Suns.Lastly, why was the old Philadelphia Warrior forced to dribble what appears
to be a water polo ball back in the late 1940s? [Note that the ball was updated in the 1950s. — PL]
It’s worth noting that just because a logo is listed on a web site as “Celtics, 1968″ (or whatever), that doesn’t mean that was the exact logo used in that year. Logos are often updated and then retroactively relabeled, passed around the web, and so on, and we don’t know if these logos were scanned from, say, an original yearbook or just downloaded from less primary source. But Gordon’s research is interesting, and appears to indicate that the NBA’s ball design and logo designs tend to develop independently of each other. Good stuff.
Next project: Someone go research all the ball-inclusive ABA logos (like the excellent Oakland Oaks mark shown above).
Uni Watch News Ticker: The Wizards unveiled their new alternate uni last night, complete with odd shoulder striping and shorts that don’t match the jersey. For some reason I find them more amusing than awful, and I kinda like how the shoulder stripes echo the franchise’s old Bullets-era design. … Keyshawn Johnson appears to be tying his jersey collar to his shoulder pads, and the shoelace he’s using (or strap, or whatever) is running right through his NFL Equipment logo patch (here’s a closer look). … You can get a sneak peek at FSU’s solid-black alternate uni, slated to debut this Saturday, toward the end of this video clip (with thanks to BJ Lanier). … Yesterday I jokingly suggested that Endy Chavez might have been wearing a nicotine patch, although I figured it was just a Band-Aid. Turns out it may actually have been a performance accessory, though, because Brian Terreson points out that Phiten — the same company that makes those annoying titanium necklaces that everyone’s now wearing — also makes these little adhesive titanium patch thingies, and it looks like that’s what Chavez was wearing. Bizarre. … Another NCAA football team with an asymmetrical helmet design: D3 Wesleyan. In an odd development, the school is celebrating its 175th anniversary, so the gridders have “175 Years” on the left side, while the right side is blank. Yes, I know I had previously excluded teams from this discussion if they had one blank side, instead of two distinct decals, but this one is so unusual that it deserves to be included. (Thanks to current Wesleyan sophomore Chris Choi for this info.). … Wanna own 13 pairs of stirrups very similar to the one depicted in the Uni Watch logo (and if you don’t, you really need to reconsider your priorities)? Look here. (Thanks to Tom Langan for the tip.) … Interesting note from Randy Miller, who writes: “I was watching an old Bud Greenspan-style documentary on the 1968 Olympics, and they showed a soccer finals match between Bulgaria and Hungary. The Bulgarian team (I think) wore a serifed number font I’d never seen before and it featured a European 7, the one with the line through the middle of it. Just curious if you’d ever seen or heard of a European 7 being used on a uniform before.” I never have. Anyone else..? … New York Times engaged in a bit of political uni watching yesterday. … Jeremy Brahm notes that the American gymnastics team at the 2006 FIG Artistic World Championships is wearing fuchsia, which has caused such a ruckus that it’s actually mentioned in the lead sentence of this article (plus there’s more discussion of the unis farther down in the piece). … Brahm also has his customary Japanese baseball report. Today’s installment: Waseda University’s baseball team uses different font sizes for uni Nos. 1 and 11. … Oops.
#1 by Joe Hilseberg on 10.20.06 9:07 am |
I’m so excited about a world series that is free of black trim! The Cards took “ditch the black” a little to literally for the most of you.
Go Tigers!
#2 by matt in the nati on 10.20.06 9:08 am |
first and bummed… but i still love baseball… i guess its hockey season for me now
#3 by Kevin on 10.20.06 9:10 am |
Go Cards!
Nice series Mets, I have to admit I was getting nervous in the 9th, but luckily Wainwright came through with his sick curveball.
#4 by Kevin on 10.20.06 9:12 am |
My condolences….but at least you have your priorities right. It’s always hockey season for me. Baseball is just a bonus this time of year.
#5 by bobbyd on 10.20.06 9:12 am |
Those black FSU uni’s are sick….as in traditional meaning, terrible…esp that goofy undershirt Nike has designed…what is that nonsense?
The Seminole Nation might just take away their blessing about the nickname w/ this design….
Two thumbs down!
#6 by Richard on 10.20.06 9:18 am |
The Noles jersey looks green when you put that gold jersey underneath it. Now a black jersey underneath it would have been a better choice…
#7 by matt in the nati on 10.20.06 9:18 am |
wonder if Matt Foy got that stick using one of these…
#8 by Chris Doran on 10.20.06 9:19 am |
Paul,
Looks like you still have long road ahead to Ditch The Black.
Cards locker room shirt…RED
Tigers locker room shirt…BLUE
Mets Locker room shirt… BLACK
#9 by Ben on 10.20.06 9:30 am |
Jose Reyes has some serious shoe stock in the bottom of his locker.
#10 by matt in the nati on 10.20.06 9:32 am |
does that happen often?
#11 by Andy Head on 10.20.06 9:34 am |
Anyone else catch the Fox broadcast of Game 7 last night and notice how Joe Buck and the other guy started talking about how these players had been “pulling on their sanitary socks” and other stuff for 7.5 months (I think it was in the 6th, but I won’t swear to that)? They made a comment about how you can almost never see the sanis any more because of the pajama pants epidemic, and then the camera guys tried to find a visible stirrup/sani. The closest thing they found was a faux stirrup on a Cardinal that was only showing about an inch.
#12 by Natron on 10.20.06 9:35 am |
Think MLB would actually ship those Mets ALCS champ hats, or would they cancel the orders?
Might be an investment opportunity if you can get your mitts on one.
#13 by MetsFan AZ on 10.20.06 9:35 am |
congrats to the cards. in that picture, Floyd (who should have bunted) looks like he is wearing footie PJ’s.
#14 by Ben on 10.20.06 9:38 am |
More often than you would think. 2004 American League Champions.
#15 by MetsFan AZ on 10.20.06 9:39 am |
Mets “A”LCS hats would be a collector’s item. i think that stuff either gets destroyed or shipped off to other countries in need of clothing. somewhere in a third world country someone has a buffalo bills 4-Time Super Bowl champs t-shirt.
#16 by Richard on 10.20.06 9:40 am |
“the other guy”…You mean Tim McCarver?
gee
#17 by Robert on 10.20.06 9:41 am |
Call me crazy, but I really like the Wizards’ alts. They would not be a good primary look, but as an alt they are great.
I am a big fan (perhaps the only one) of the shorts-being-a-different-color-than-the-jersey look.
#18 by DJ on 10.20.06 9:42 am |
I’d never seen before and it featured a European 7, the one with the line through the middle of it. Just curious if you’d ever seen or heard of a European 7 being used on a uniform before
I think Bayern Munchen’s uniforms use it. I’m afraid I don’t have a link or photo, though…
#19 by Burrill on 10.20.06 9:43 am |
Mismatched sleeves at the high school level.
#20 by dchis on 10.20.06 9:45 am |
Tim McCarver should be referred to as the other guy. That man is an idiot.
#21 by LunchBox on 10.20.06 9:45 am |
Since we’re talking World Series, I think this is a preview of what we will see.
#22 by Natron on 10.20.06 9:48 am |
Whoops… That’s what happens when you live in an American League town!
NLCS of course.
#23 by nybatt on 10.20.06 9:49 am |
I posted the question over on cris creamer’s boards regarding the giant/cowboy game monday night… I was hoping to see “my” giants in their classic road whites on monday night… thinking the cowboys might break out their throwbacks for the prime-time game… I know all about them blowing the game last year in the t-backs versus washington on monday night…
then on the NFLN yesterday they showed #81 on his cell with the white throwback helmets hanging in everyone’s lockers behind him…. could dallas be planning on wearing them monday night??
screw dallas, I just want to see the giants actually wear white in dallas… which I don’t believe has ever happened before…
#24 by Daniel on 10.20.06 9:50 am |
Call me crazy, but I really like the Wizards’ alts. They would not be a good primary look, but as an alt they are great.
I am a big fan (perhaps the only one) of the shorts-being-a-different-color-than-the-jersey look.
Yeah, I think they’re ok too. It wouldn’t look good if they had gold pants. Do the Kings wear gold pants with their gold jerseys?
#25 by todd krevanchi (krvanch) on 10.20.06 9:51 am |
is it just me, or has the hoop team in washington lost its mind…
the name “washington wizards” and now those new alternte jerseys remind me of the name and uniform of the opponent of a globetrotter-type team… you know the jobber type opponent who is just supposed to go out there and make the main attraction look good…
i cant believe that there was a meeting with a design team and management, and someone in that meeting said, “you know i really like this one.” then like 2 other guys said, “you know, youre right!” and “i agree, lets go with the black and gold 2 tone.”
along the same topic, would the unseld era bullets be the last team to have a jersey that was not predominantly the primary color of the uni?
http://www.umm.edu/o...
how bout the chicago stags (bulls wore those a few times last year)?
http://espn.go.com/m...
http://www.nba.com/m...
how about the 66 sixers?
http://www.onthefiel...
http://www.fanzz.com...
#26 by Matt on 10.20.06 9:54 am |
I tempted to buy on of those league champions Mets hats as a collectors item, but at the same time I don’t want to live through the pain of having to look at it…
#27 by Matthew on 10.20.06 9:56 am |
I used to have a “1994 NBA Champion” New York Knicks shirt. They make ‘em, and gotta do something with them.
What I’d really like now is the Mets hat with the WS patch.
#28 by Richard on 10.20.06 9:58 am |
CRAZY
they look horrible. can’t believe they went with a mis-matched look. and if they were going to pay homage to the Bullets, those top stripes are not the way to go…
#29 by Jonathan on 10.20.06 10:01 am |
I never understood the McCarver hating . . . He’s a very good analyst and he tells you things you wouldn’t necessarily know if you’re only a casual fan. He made a point on Wednesday (I think) about how on a 2-2 pitch with the runner going, even a pitch down the middle of the plate might get called a ball because of the catcher jumping out of his crouch.
A lot of other analysts (I’m looking at YOU, Joe Morgan) would simply have told us that the pitch was a cutter (or “a little slide piece”) and that the runner stole that off the pitcher or that the catcher didn’t have a good ball to throw or some other pointless drivel.
Is Tim McCarver overbearing, yes. Does he talk too much, probably. Does he try to make jokes when he isn’t funny, CLEARLY. But as analysts go, He, Jerry Remy and the now retired Jim Kaat rank 1-2-3 in my book (sorry Psycho Lyons!)
#30 by Jonathan on 10.20.06 10:06 am |
Just to make my McCarver defense more relevant to our general thesis here . .
He looked great in the Phillies baby blues and wore his stirrups the right way!
#31 by Dan from PC on 10.20.06 10:06 am |
as far as McCarver is concerned…its pretty embarrassing when he refers to the best player in baseball as Luis Pujols on 2 different occaisions this year, as well as calling Endy Chavez “Eric Chavex” last night…the man may make some salient points, but hes a mess most of the time
#32 by JohnnyG83 on 10.20.06 10:07 am |
Despite the font error, I dig those Waseda U. uniforms.
And on the Wizards, out me down for a “hell no.”
#33 by DJ on 10.20.06 10:09 am |
Now I have a picture: Mehmet Scholl’s jersey is on sale at the Bayern Munchen team shop:
#34 by DJ on 10.20.06 10:10 am |
Darn it!!! Too stupid to link!!!
http://auktion.fcbay...
At least this shows the address…
#35 by Jason on 10.20.06 10:15 am |
I apologize if this was already discussed, but will the NBA be changing the championship trophy to reflect the new ball?
Also I own a 1993 Michigan National Champs t-shirt (hoops). Chris Webber refused to sign it at an autograph signing. I suppose that would be expected, though.
#36 by dchis on 10.20.06 10:19 am |
Yes I agree with you on Joe Morgan. He is a terrible broadcaster, just terrible. Here is a great website about how I feel about Morgan. McCarver has his own site like it too. But McCarver is not a good broadcaster. He is ridiculously stupid. Here are some great quotes he had in lasts night game.
Top 2nd: “If Oliver Perez throws in the succeeding innings like he did in the first, you might not need the bullpen early.” Uhh DUH!!
Bottom 3rd: “What you’re about to see is one of the most important statistics in baseball. During the 2006 season, if a runner reaches base with no outs, he scores 43 percent of the time. With one out, 30 percent of the time. With two outs, 15 percent of the time. A dramatic, dramatic difference,” Wouldn’t anybody who knew anything about baseball understand that a player on the basepaths with less than one out has a better chance than a player that got on with one or two outs. It’s obvious.
Bottom 4 to Top 5: McCarver had a couple different quotes in this range. Here are 2: “Nothing in baseball can quiet a crowd like good pitching.”
“Well, David Eckstein, like most of us, has 20 digits. Ten fingers, ten toes.” What?!?!?
Top 8 (while raining): “Something to keep in mind — it’s raining lightly. The infield could be very wet on ground balls.” Of course the ground balls will get wet!!!!
This is all just from one game. The man is a complete moron. He never ever adds to the broadcast of the game or to the game itself. It’s sad that people like this get these jobs. Isn’t it enough that he played baseball for a living and got paid big bucks, but don’t let them take good paying jobs away from people who could do the job much better.
#37 by MetsFan AZ on 10.20.06 10:20 am |
Maybe he just wanted a time-out
#38 by Kenny on 10.20.06 10:28 am |
FROM YESTERDAY’S POST:
I’m right there with you Kevin…that catch by Chavez was pretty amazing…I jumped out of the booth at the bar cuz Rolen finally got a hold of one and then just stood there and said WOW, great catch and I agree with whoever said that should be up there for play of the year
oh and Wainwright’s curve is sick, but I prefer to call it filthy
i’m smellin’ another 7 game series…and it’s gonna be cold in Detroit so it’s a good thing the Cards have some hot Soup!!!
#39 by dchis on 10.20.06 10:31 am |
So why will the Cards be able to take it to game 7? Their pitching and hitting is worse than Detroit’s. I just don’t see this getting to game 7. Getting to game 6 a possibility but that’s even a stretch.
#40 by Clevo on 10.20.06 10:31 am |
How can you hate McCarver? HE WAS STEVE CARLTON’S PERSONAL CATCHER!!!
“Go back behind the plate, the only thing you know about pitching is that you can’t hit it.â€- Bob Gibson, to Tim McCarver
#41 by Kenny on 10.20.06 10:33 am |
What in God’s name was Larry Brown thinking???
#42 by Patrick W. on 10.20.06 10:34 am |
I just saw the something really scary on Chris Cremers forum, Orange “Halloween” Pumpkin practice jerseys for the San Jose Sharks. Spooky!!!
#43 by dchis on 10.20.06 10:35 am |
Never said I have a problem with McCarver as a baseball player. He is a terrible broadcaster. That’s my beef with him, as a broadcaster not a player.
#44 by Chris on 10.20.06 10:39 am |
Does anybody have a link to the new Wizards alt. uniforms?
#45 by Max Dugan on 10.20.06 10:44 am |
Wes, I’d like to introduce you to Bill, WES!!!
#46 by Richard on 10.20.06 10:46 am |
NEW DANCER ALT. UNIFORMS TOO
#47 by Kevin on 10.20.06 10:46 am |
Hmmm, didn’t every “expert” on the planet say the same thing about the NLCS? We know how that turned out.
#48 by Phil on 10.20.06 10:49 am |
And if Bob Gibson said it, I’ll bet McCarver said yes sir, and went back behind the plate.
#49 by Clevo on 10.20.06 10:50 am |
sorry, I had a little (sarcasm) sidenote and took it out. I cant stand TM, and him telling anyone who will listen that he was Carlton’s personal catcher got old after the first couple hundred times I have heard him say it.
#50 by dchis on 10.20.06 10:51 am |
Yes they did. But honestly I thought that Cardinal would win it because they have enough bats to match up with the Mets bats and by far had superior pitching. Against the Tigers they don’t have enough bats to match the Tigers order and their pitching staff is not as strong as the Tigers. Those two things add up to losses. Look at the 2004 World Series. Experts predicted that the Cardinals would do well against the Red Sox because they could pitch and hit just as well, but those analyst were just flat wrong just like in the NLCS. The Cardinals could pitch way better than the Mets and could hit just as well. But they don’t have those advantages against the Tigers.
#51 by Richard on 10.20.06 10:52 am |
and when did the C’s add the shamrock permanently to the back top of the uniform?
see here on Al Jefferson
#52 by Banker Bill on 10.20.06 10:57 am |
Well, the Mets proved last night that great unis and an inspired performance by a pitcher that NOBODY thought would get past two innings are worthless IF YOU DON’T SWING THE @%#$@ING BATS!
Go Tigers. Belliard’s still a thug, and Jim Edmonds looks like Mr. Ed.
#53 by Banker Bill on 10.20.06 11:01 am |
And another thing - I agree with everyone else - on to hockey season - I can concentrate on the Rangers now. Caught the Devs/Preds last night on commercials of the ball game - the Preds whites may just be my favorite NHL jersey (or sweater for the old-school who offend easily)
#54 by jimmywags on 10.20.06 11:03 am |
One more college team with different logos on each side of the helmet. Missouri for one year (1990, I think) had a special 100th football season logo on the right side, and the white ‘M’ they had been using for many years on the right side. The Helmet Project has a graphic. I’m looking for a photo.
#55 by Tricia on 10.20.06 11:05 am |
Did the link change for the picture of Matt Foy’s stick? I get a picture of a Thrashers/Capitals game, and Foy has only ever played for the Wild.
#56 by Paul Lukas on 10.20.06 11:05 am |
New for this season. Just in case you couldn’t tell that Al Jefferson is Irish.
#57 by Cotton on 10.20.06 11:07 am |
I think that’s the real tragedy here. If the Mets could have pulled it out, they might mave permanently gone with the blue hats and pinstripes.
#58 by todd krevanchi (krvanch) on 10.20.06 11:08 am |
bang all you want on morgan and mccarver… at least they add situational insight…
the real captain obvious is john madden… that guy does a game like he is talking to people who are watching football for the first time in their lives… i feel like a dipshit when i watch a game he does… like its remedial football…
dont get me started on duke vitale either…
#59 by Paul Lukas on 10.20.06 11:09 am |
Damn — the URL did indeed change (or, rather, the photo pegged to that URL changed), and now I can’t find the other photo. I’ve removed that item from the ticker.
#60 by kris on 10.20.06 11:09 am |
This is The Right Way to wear a sweater?
#61 by a arauz on 10.20.06 11:12 am |
If the Cowgirls go w/ Throwbacks, maybe the our Giants be red?
#62 by Joe Hilseberg on 10.20.06 11:12 am |
Wizards alt uni….HATE the gold, HATE the reflective/blinding material, LOVE the stars on the shoulders and LOVE the typeography on the front.
Any jersey that has no reference to that stupid wavy “W”, and get’s rid of the ugliest shade of blue I have ever seen is OK with me. And I agree with Todd, I have no clue how a team of semi-smart people sat in a room and looked at that logo and said, “We must pick this one…the people will rejoice!”
#63 by Paul Lukas on 10.20.06 11:15 am |
I just asked the NBA. Their answer: “No.”
#64 by dchis on 10.20.06 11:17 am |
Agreed that John Madden well needs to retire from color commentating. He never gives new insight to the games. But when do Morgan and McCarver add situational insight?
#65 by Kevin on 10.20.06 11:18 am |
Yeah, well that thug and Mr. Ed are in the World Series. I for one am glad we don’t have to hear about how much Jose Reyes “loves to play the game” and about Carlos Beltran’s ‘69 Camaro.
#66 by a arauz on 10.20.06 11:18 am |
Right, your linking onto a current example, I thought the exercise was to locate a 50’s-60’s example. I remember seeing old footage of european football and the euro styled 7 was pretty much a common thing at the time, especially in the soviet bloc countries ie: Bulgaria, Hungary, Poland, Yugo. et al
#67 by Joe M. on 10.20.06 11:22 am |
Better that sweater than some of the 70’s era suits some coaches wore during that time.
#68 by todd krevanchi (krvanch) on 10.20.06 11:27 am |
maybe situational insight wasnt the best of terms. what im looking at is they at least add the “why this happened”, “the knowledge behind the game decisions and how the decision comes into play 2 batters from now” and type of insight. madden just tells me that player x “just looks like a football player” or that “the reason a running back was able to get the first down on 3rd and 2 is because the tackle was blocking”…
#69 by a arauz on 10.20.06 11:29 am |
that remember the ABA site is awesome, i’ve been schooling myself in that site for the past 5 years. And I’ll repeat my post from last night:
Kitties in 4, nah, make that 5 –i’m feeling a bit more generous this morning.
#70 by Kenny on 10.20.06 11:31 am |
Well the pitching for the Cards this postseason has been a pleasant surprise…they didn’t well at all, except for in clutch situations and even then it didn’t happen that much…I think the Cards are playing with little pressure on their shoulders unlike the last couple of years
They also weren’t supposed to be able to contain a potent Mets line-up…weird thinga happen in the playoffs (i.e. BoSox in ‘04)
#71 by Kenny on 10.20.06 11:36 am |
2 words come to mind about McCarver…Derek Jeter
2 words come to mind about Madden…Brett Favre
Biggest man crush’s in their respective sport
Also any thoughts about Harold Reynolds going to FOX and Lyons joining ESPN?
#72 by Alex on 10.20.06 11:37 am |
of all the comments today, I find myself partially agreeing with this one the most. The METS should have been bunting, not sure if Floyd was the guy to send up to get that job done. who doesn’t like 2nd and 3rd with 1 out? ah willie
#73 by todd krevanchi (krvanch) on 10.20.06 11:38 am |
as far as schooling yourself on a sports site…
here is one you could spend hours on
http://www.ballparks...
#74 by Keith on 10.20.06 11:44 am |
Wow, an NBA team finally wearing black and gold. (I wonder why NBA teams have avoided those colors?) And not just any gold, but it looks like the same “Las Vegas Gold” color the Penguins use as a tasteful accent on their uniforms.
Damn shame that the Wizards had to use it as an eye-searing awful primary color.
#75 by todd krevanchi (krvanch) on 10.20.06 11:44 am |
did anyone else wax nostalgic this morning when the new post came up?
i saw the oakland oaks logo at the top…
http://static.flickr...
and the memory bank took me directly back to saturday morning cartoons when it was “time for timer”
http://www.toontrack...
#76 by Kenny on 10.20.06 11:45 am |
Absolutely love that website…
#77 by Kim on 10.20.06 11:46 am |
Can we just say that Hockey’s Don Cherry takes the cake and call it a day?
#78 by Dwight on 10.20.06 11:47 am |
The traditional birds on the bat and the Olde English D. Can a World Series have better looking unis than this matchup. Long live the tradition!
#79 by Jonathan on 10.20.06 11:52 am |
I like this one:
Baseball Reference
Talk about time wasters . . .
#80 by Andy on 10.20.06 11:52 am |
The only thing cooler than calling attention to the fact that you’re the first to post in the morning after a new blog is to call attention to it and then not actually be the first! I think that’s 4 days in a row this has been done by someone. Cracks me up every time!
#81 by Richard on 10.20.06 11:56 am |
Thought it was new this season. I know last year they had it on the St. Patrick’s Day jersey, in gold at the top. This season - green on the white unis and white on the green. Wonder if the alt green and black unis are coming back, and what color they’ll use - probably black…
#82 by dchis on 10.20.06 12:05 pm |
What is the weird thing with the Sox in ‘04?
#83 by dchis on 10.20.06 12:07 pm |
Agreed that Morgan and McCarver do this and Madden does not. Al Michaels would be better off doing the games by himself than Madden. But Michaels still needs someone else. How about Gary Thorne for best announcer period, doesn’t matter what sport.
#84 by Kek on 10.20.06 12:12 pm |
I’d never seen before and it featured a European 7, the one with the line through the middle of it. Just curious if you’d ever seen or heard of a European 7 being used on a uniform before
the Johnstown Chiefs of the ECHL used the Euro 7 a few years ago. I will look for a photo over the weekend.
#85 by Holla At your Boy on 10.20.06 12:21 pm |
Did anyone else notcie that the Cards wore their navy blue caps on the field, but after they won Suppan and some other players changed their hats. I think they did this to match their new championship tee shirts.
http://espn-i.starwa...
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Interesting
#86 by Kenny on 10.20.06 12:22 pm |
Seriously?…uh only down 3-0, but i guess that’s no big deal huh?
#87 by Kenny on 10.20.06 12:25 pm |
I’m gonna go with because the red hats have the world series patch on them and maybe because the navy hats were soaking wet after being out in the rain, but i would lean towards the patch reasoning
#88 by Richard on 10.20.06 12:26 pm |
it was cited in the end of yesterday’s thread, but posted this morning before today’s post went up…
#89 by dchis on 10.20.06 12:31 pm |