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10.18.06

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New ESPN column today — here’s the link.

Meanwhile: As I’m sure everyone here is well aware, the NBA has a new game ball. Most of the media coverage of the new ball has centered on players’ complaints about it. But there’s a more pressing matter that nobody seems to have addressed: What happens to all the teams who have basketballs depicted in their logos?

This is no small matter, because the overwhelming majority of NBA teams have ball-inclusive logos. In addition to the Lakers, you’ve got the Hawks, Celtics, Cavs, Mavs, Pistons, Warriors, Pacers, Clippers, Heat, Nets, Knicks, Hornets, Magic, Sixers, Suns, Sonics, Raptors, Jazz, and Wizards (the only logo where the ball appears twice) — plus the Eastern and Western Conference logos! Many teams have the ball depicted on their uniforms, too.

Leaving aside the obvious point that maybe it’s time for NBA logo designers to come up with some more imaginative tropes, the issue of logo-to-ball consistency is an interesting one. Are any of these teams thinking of updating their logos to match the new ball? Will these old logos now start to become retro by default? Did the NBA think about all this when the new ball design was in development?

I posed those questions to the league office, where NBA VP for Apparel Christopher Arena provided the following response:

This was discussed, as it relates to all balls in team and event logos for the NBA, WNBA, and D-League. Some of our new franchises — the Los Angeles D-Fenders in the D-League, for example — will be using the new ball design in their logos. But we have not had any existing teams approach us about changing their logos, and we are not proactively pursuing them to change.

If you look closely at the Celtics logo, you’ll see that the ball is the pre-1970 four-panel ball. They never changed the logo when the ball became eight-panel. The eight-panel basketball is still a basketball, and represents a point in time when the franchise was created, or at least when the logo was created. We anticipate that eight-panel balls will continue to represent the game of basketball for some time — we just happen to have a new ball for game play. I would anticipate many of our event logos (draft, etc.) eventually converting to the new ball when applicable.

This strikes me as a perfectly reasonable response. My hunch, though, is that as we all grow more accustomed to the sight of the new ball (which, incidentally, I think looks pretty cool), more and more teams will decide that their logos look a bit incongruous, and will use the new ball as an excuse for a logo makeover. Everyone meet back here in three years and we’ll see if I’m right.

Of course, it’d be great if the new ball served as an excuse to resuscitate and revise the greatest NBA logo of all time.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Yesterday’s entry looked at high school football helmets with a logo on one side and a uni number on the other. But Jesse Gavin has come up with a school that wears two distinct logos: Cedar Falls High in Iowa, which has this on one side and this on the other. … And it turns out that mismatched helmet decals aren’t limited to the high school ranks after all, as explained in this report from Scott Musa: “Christopher Newport University [a NCAA D3S school in the USA South Conference] has a CNU on the left side and their school logo (three sails, but they look like triangles) on the right.” … Note to self: Don’t ever attend a Chicago-area game involving Simeon High or Libertyville High (whose opponents appear to have kidnapped Flying Elvis and put him on their helmets). This retina damage brought to you by John Waller. … Taking in a Clinton High game in Oklahoma wouldn’t be too bad, though (with thanks to Cale Challis). … The University of Wisconsin has forced an Iowa high school to change its logo, because it was too similar to the Badgers’ logo. Further info here (good catch by Jesse Gavin and Matt Nelson). … Great catch you may have missed in yesterday’s Comments section: Scott Player’s single-bar facemask was up by his forehead as he tried to tackle Devin Hester. … And yes, Neil Rackers did indeed have a Band-Aid on his forehead.

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anyone know if that cut Player’s face? those cleats look pretty close to the old noggin.

First waddup?

The Nets will be changing some logos anyway with the move to Brooklyn..

Ah, beat me :/

this is for all us sturggling met fans

If Player’s face mask was up that high, then it must mean he leaves it a little loose so he can adjust it up or down. I’m guessing that he leaves it way down when he’s punting for visibility and then if he thinks he might be in on a play, he’ll move it up to offer some protection. Of course, if the bar moves all the way up to his helmut during a play, what’s the point? It still leaves most of his face exposed.

any speculation on the topic of todays ESPN write up that paul has hyped so much

I believe Paul will announce that the new official Uni Watch colors will be purple, teal, and black. ;-)

If Player’s face mask was up that high, then it must mean he leaves it a little loose so he can adjust it up or down. I’m guessing that he leaves it way down when he’s punting for visibility and then if he thinks he might be in on a play, he’ll move it up to offer some protection. Of course, if the bar moves all the way up to his helmut during a play, what’s the point? It still leaves most of his face exposed.

if he’s adjusting is when he thinks he’ll be in the play that could tip off opponents to a fake punt or simply what the punt coverage is going to look like…

I think this high school logo is a little closer to the Wisconsin ‘W’ than the one in Iowa. Where is the lawsuit for this school?

The opponent of Libertyville High School is Stevenson High School who does happen to have the nickname of the Patriots.

Player might have been dangerously close to a Bryan Barker type injury.

I believe Paul will announce that the new official Uni Watch colors will be purple, teal, and black. ;-)

heh… with this yellow/green as a piping on all merchandise

Pretty sure that’s Adlai E. Stevenson High School playing against Libertyville. I know those are their colors, and that they’re the Patriots. Couldn’t find another recent picture of their unis, though.

Two cool Ohio High School Helmet sites:

Ohio High School Helmet Project

Massillon Tiger Helmet Project

Massillon changes their helmets every two or three years (if not more) and has been doing so since at least the 1960s. Pretty cool site.

Think Wisconsin will sue Wooster High (from yesterday’s links) as well?

http://www.neohioact...

That Wisconsin “W” is so lame anyways, I don’t know why anyone would want to copy it. Does anyone know if there is some significance behind it? The black shading on it really throws off the whole helmet, and the way it warps is just bizarre…

this is for all us sturggling met fans

Go Cards! What a game last night. Busch was rocking. I really thought we blew it when the bases were loaded with no outs and we didn’t score, but our pitching was on point.

How the hell did Player miss that tackle?

any speculation on the topic of todays ESPN write up that paul has hyped so much

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Gotta love it when punters and kickers pay for there non-existent face masks

I say leave the old hoops logos alone. For one thing, the new ball looks totally whack. Also, there’s something to be said for historical continuity. How many generations of soccerball design have there been this this fellow was drawn up? Doesn’t seem the worse for wear.

Also, the LA D-Fenders? Jesus H Christ on a popsicle stick.

How the hell did Player miss that tackle?

He’s a kicker that’s how.

I say leave the old hoops logos alone. For one thing, the new ball looks totally whack. Also, there’s something to be said for historical continuity. How many generations of soccerball design have there been this this fellow was drawn up? Doesn’t seem the worse for wear.

Also, the LA D-Fenders? Jesus H Christ on a popsicle stick.

Well said indeed. I also couldn’t agree more about the “D-Fenders.” Give me a break.

I wonder if Wisconsin is going to sue Lakota West too? LW is just outside of Cincinnati.
Lakota West

Wisconsin

What a joke. Much like Wisconsin football.

Also, the LA D-Fenders? Jesus H Christ on a popsicle stick.

Well said indeed. I also couldn’t agree more about the “D-Fenders.” Give me a break.

D-Fenders… as in D-Fense?

That hasn’t happened in the NBA since MJ’s first dunk!

I wonder if Wisconsin is going to sue Lakota West too? LW is just outside of Cincinnati.
Lakota West

Wisconsin

What a joke. Much like Wisconsin football.

Uh, Wisconsin is 5-1 this season.

Check out how high school combines are getting into the uni act. you need to scroll down a little bit but there are these great nike shirts with differing sleeve colors. But an added treat. They have the players combine number and info of the sleeve without the design here is the link

if he’s adjusting is when he thinks he’ll be in the play that could tip off opponents to a fake punt or simply what the punt coverage is going to look like…

Player probably doesn’t have the mask fully screwed in to the helmet - on the old plastic facemasks they are attached by the chinstrap snap and a screw right behind it. He pushes it down until after he punts, then flips it up into place as the play comes back toward him. On a fake punt, he would have to keep it down like he was going to punt or he would tip off the return team.

What about all the basketball players with tattoos of the old-style basketball? Did they have any input??

Mike Bibby
Jason Williams

Who is Simeon playing? They have mismatched sleeves. (You can tell better if you look at the guy on the left.) They also have weird striping on their pants that comes around the front.

IMO, Simeon is actually the better-dressed team in this game.

And how is it that they both appear to be wearing home unis? Are they, or does one of those teams have a different home uni?

while watching a great game 5 last night i noticed 2 “separated at birth” possibilities…
first, a shot of
jose valentin
immediately reminded me of a younger
herm “you play to win the game…hello?” edwards

then i almost confuseed
omar minaya
for
cal ripken jr

any takers on the likenesses?

Ohio helmets with two different helmet decals:

the aforementioned Wooster: Right Left

Elyria: Right Left

Reynoldsburg: Right Left

There is also at least 15 schools with a variation of the Wisconsin “W” including Wooster, Lakota West, Wapakoneta and Wynford.

What about all the basketball players with tattoos of the old-style basketball? Did they have any input??

Mike Bibby
Jason Williams

any info on what tattoo the net of bibby’s hoop tattoo is covering up?

Another concern that I have with the new ball; doesn’t the NBA’s championship trophy have an 8-panel ball?

evidence

Story here about the University of Wisconsin Lawsuit Daily Cardinal

And history of the Motion W Motion W

My old HS’s unis are a study in good and evil; that is, the road whites are classic and classy while the home blues are horrendous. Witness:

…and I’m officially a moron. Let’s try again, shall we?

Nashville (IL) Hornets

In this photo you can see his mask is only attached though one of the bolt holes

Nashville’s current basketball togs are solid too - much better than when I was there (no photo evidence to be found, thank god):

Home
Road

(By the way, #44 is Lucas O’Rear, a 6′7″ forward who shoots 45% from behind the arc and runs the point against pressure. He’s headed to Northern Iowa, according to my little brother [a guard on the team].)

This trend toward seamless balls (see the new balls in soccer’s World Cup) is not cool. Plain and simple. These seamless balls remind me of sans-a-belt slacks. Sometimes technological developments are not a good thing.

The other day my wife asked me why I like wearing a belt when I’m dressed casually, in jeans and a t-shirt. “It’s not like you have to worry about your pants falling down,” she said, “and your shirt’s untucked, so no one can see your belt.” I told her I like what the belt represents, I like its role in demarcating my upper from lower torso. Somehow, this seamless NBA ball reminds me of how I’d feel if I were wearing jeans with my shirt tucked in yet not wearing a belt.

This trend toward seamless balls (see the new balls in soccer’s World Cup) is not cool. Plain and simple. These seamless balls remind me of sans-a-belt slacks. Sometimes technological developments are not a good thing.

The other day my wife asked me why I like wearing a belt when I’m dressed casually, in jeans and a t-shirt. “It’s not like you have to worry about your pants falling down,” she said, “and your shirt’s untucked, so no one can see your belt.” I told her I like what the belt represents, I like its role in demarcating my upper from lower torso. Somehow, this seamless NBA ball reminds me of how I’d feel if I were wearing jeans with my shirt tucked in yet not wearing a belt.

couldnt agree more. If there are beltloops, then a belt must follow

The reason some schools can use the Motion W without fear of a lawsuit is that UW licenses the use of it to schools. I played on a basketball team where we used the W as the first letter on our warmups and jerseys. We had to pay an extra 50 bucks or something to use it, but we didn’t have to worry about trademark infringement or whatever. I’m guessing this is a similar situation for these schools (Especially the one school using a red w, that’s pretty obvious attempt at copying).

Uh, Wisconsin is 5-1 this season.

Yeah, they beat, uh, Bowling Green and Indiana, so they must be good.


My apologies for not closing my italics.

any speculation on the topic of todays ESPN write up that paul has hyped so much

Hopefully it’s a preview of the 2007 Lingerie Bowl uniforms.


Interesting football kit site

Anyone else on pins and needles waiting for today’s column? Hope it is before my next class.

What about all the basketball players with tattoos of the old-style basketball? Did they have any input??

Mike Bibby
Jason Williams

any info on what tattoo the net of bibby’s hoop tattoo is covering up?

Looks to me like it said “Tina.” Guess things didn’t work out with her.

Georgia has a pretty cool HS helmet site as well…

http://www.footballf...
GA Helmet Project

Does anyone know where I can get a quality jersey display case without having to take out a loan? All the ones they have in the mall are like $350.00 and when I Googled them they all looked cheap. Also does it feel like Christmas Eve to anyone else with this new ESPN column?

What about all the basketball players with tattoos of the old-style basketball? Did they have any input??

Mike Bibby
Jason Williams

any info on what tattoo the net of bibby’s hoop tattoo is covering up?

Looks to me like it said “Tina.” Guess things didn’t work out with her.

I thought it said Cara…

All this talk about HS uniforms got me to googlin’.

Do they still tar and feather people for stupid ideas?

Evidence:
FergoOnline

Bibby’s tattoo is terrible.

anyone know if that cut Player’s face? those cleats look pretty close to the old noggin.

The tackler of Devin Hester was Scott Player with the old school single bar face-mask. The kicker with the band aid is Neil Rackers. Different people so the band-aid is not because of the spike to the head by Devin Hester. Oh and good draft pick this year by the Bears with Hester in the 3rd round. He has two punt return touchdowns this year. The first one from 83 yards and the second an 84 yarder on Monday. Can’t play any other position though, but lightning quick with the ball in his hands.

Also does it feel like Christmas Eve to anyone else with this new ESPN column?

yeah… except i was raised jewish so i only know that feeling by proxy

Re: Mike Bibby’s tattoo, from mikebibby.com

Mike had a hoop and net added to his leg. Tone R.I.P was added to the net in memory of Anthony ‘Tone’ Thompson.

What about all the basketball players with tattoos of the old-style basketball? Did they have any input??

Mike Bibby
Jason Williams

any info on what tattoo the net of bibby’s hoop tattoo is covering up?

“Tone, R.I.P.” It says so right under the pic on his site.

I think the Pitt basketball team will have new uniforms this season. I received a catalogue in the mail a few weeks ago and this was offered as the game jersey and shorts for sale. The picture is poor (scanner is not working), but I think you can tell the difference.

New Pitt Basketball Uniform?

I couldn’t believe all that bellyaching coming from Iowa about the pilfered “flying W.” That high school must offer a masters’ course in Rationalization.

Why couldn’t they have run a logo contest in the first place? “Waukee schools must spend an undetermined amount of money to create a new logo…to avoid a legal battle.” Puh-leeze.

Paul -
Is the NBA just changing the ball for marketing purposes like the NFL changed the official’s uniforms? So anytime that version of the ball is used in a movie or a comercial they get a kickback?

any way we can get puljos to wear a cubs glove tonight?

“Prepare to have your conception of reality forever altered.” ?????? Really? Going for a bit of hyperbole there, are we? My reality is not affected one iota by a single batting glove. The fact that P.L. has no middle name is more disruptive to the natural balance of things.

As punishment for overhype, I think Paul has to watch Minnesota Vikings highlights for a week, Clockwork Orange style.

(That was all tongue-in-cheek. It is a well-written column. Thanks for entertaining us.)

New column is up — here.

that altered my impressions of that event which does have great import in my life so the hype was worth it…

Note to self: Don’t ever attend a Chicago-area game involving Simeon High or Libertyville High

It looks like the Libertyville High helmets bear the Florida Panthers logo while their jerseys are a rip-off of the Denver Broncos’. Interesting inter-sport thievery.

Unreal. Paul, you hyped the article, and you were right to do so. I can’t believe it. How could we not have realized?

Well Done.

The opponent of Libertyville High School is Stevenson High School who does happen to have the nickname of the Patriots.

Kinda bugs me when a team calls themselves the patriots then doesn’t use the country’s colors. If you don’t want red white and blue, don’t bother with nicknaming yourselves Patriots. Seems kinda contradictory to me.

Great article Paul…as soon as I saw the picture blow up, I could see the Cubs batting glove, and I started laughing. It reminds of a few years ago when I either read or saw a tongue-in-cheek commentary about an extension of the Cubs curse, where a team that had 2 or more ex-Cub players on their roster would never win a World Series. He provided a few good examples. Unfortunately, I can’t remember who put forth that theory.

Two cool Ohio High School Helmet sites:

Ohio High School Helmet Project

Massillon Tiger Helmet Project

Massillon changes their helmets every two or three years (if not more) and has been doing so since at least the 1960s. Pretty cool site.

Check out Firestone’s ‘03 helmet. Kinda dumb that they used a logo that is obviously an eagle and definitely not a falcon. Yes, they’re both birs, but c’mon…

This revelation makes Buckner even more of a hero. Too bad no one on the ‘04 Redsox could have followed in his footsteps.

Riff - the HS in my neighborhood (Denver’s George Washington) appropriately calls its teams the Patriots, but also appropriately uses green and white, as in the most famous image of GW himself.

OK..here is another one bout the 1986 world series..maybe someone can dig out pics to prove it.

The mets always wore those gorgeous blue hats with green underbill…for the 1986 world series they changed to a grey underbill and the hats were a shade lighter.

Sorry, they’re “both birds.”

The late MIke Royko, formerly of the Tribune, came up with the Ex-Cub Factor. I think it was four or more Cubs, though. The Diamondbacks did overcome it to win in 2001, though.

As for the Iowa high school thing — don’t cry for Waukee. That place has more money than it knows what to do with.

Also from the article…isn’t Homer Simpson’s middle name just the letter “J” and not the actual name (Jay)? ;-) I’m fairly knowledgable about The Simpsons’, but I could definitely be wrong about this.

Stellar reporting job on your latest espn column.

Kudos, my friend!

Thanks Paul,

You had me going for a few seconds !! Reading the introduction,I (as typical Met-fan) was sitting in dread assuming that the Red Sox/Cubbie curse had been passed onto my Amazins. Before y’all jump down my throat — recall the
‘pre-game’ buildup to the ESPN article combined w/ Paul’s rooting interest…. all I can say is:
‘Whew, we’ve got enough problems hitting & playing smart bball without a new found curse messing w/ our heads’ !

The late MIke Royko, formerly of the Tribune, came up with the Ex-Cub Factor. I think it was four or more Cubs, though. The Diamondbacks did overcome it to win in 2001, though.

As for the Iowa high school thing — don’t cry for Waukee. That place has more money than it knows what to do with.

You’re absolutey right. I remember now because his columns used to appear in my hometown newspaper, and I looked forward to reading them. Thanks for the info and correction!

This revelation makes Buckner even more of a hero. Too bad no one on the ‘04 Redsox could have followed in his footsteps.

Riff - the HS in my neighborhood (Denver’s George Washington) appropriately calls its teams the Patriots, but also appropriately uses green and white, as in the most famous image of GW himself.

Any photo evidence? I’m thinkin’ dollar bill. Is that what you mean? I could let that slide. ;)

But don’t tell me that either of these are patriotic.

Patriot is defined as “someone who proudly supports or defends his or her country and its way of life.” What country are they patriotic to, Mauritania? (yes, it’s a real place, I looked it up)

Also from the article…isn’t Homer Simpson’s middle name just the letter “J” and not the actual name (Jay)? ;-) I’m fairly knowledgable about The Simpsons’, but I could definitely be wrong about this.

In the episode where he tracks down his mom’s old hippy friends he finds a mural painted by his mom of himself as a baby and moves a bush back showing his middle name is Jay.

Also from the article…isn’t Homer Simpson’s middle name just the letter “J” and not the actual name (Jay)? ;-) I’m fairly knowledgable about The Simpsons’, but I could definitely be wrong about this.

In the episode where he tracks down his mom’s old hippy friends he finds a mural painted by his mom of himself as a baby and moves a bush back showing his middle name is Jay.

Cool, thanks for the correction. I figured someone would be more knowledgable than me.

quote comment=”14679″]Great article Paul…as soon as I saw the picture blow up, I could see the Cubs batting glove, and I started laughing. It reminds of a few years ago when I either read or saw a tongue-in-cheek commentary about an extension of the Cubs curse, where a team that had 2 or more ex-Cub players on their roster would never win a World Series. He provided a few good examples. Unfortunately, I can’t remember who put forth that theory.

yeah, I thought that too, too much Ubi Watch I guess, I noticed it the 1st time I looked at that pic, I never really looked at that one before (I have a reason, in ‘86, I was 4!)

Ohio helmets with two different helmet decals:

the aforementioned Wooster: Right

Left

Elyria: Right

Left

Reynoldsburg: Right Left

There is also at least 15 schools with a variation of the Wisconsin “W” including Wooster, Lakota West, Wapakoneta and Wynford.

As an Alum from Wapakoneta, aka Wapak, I was going to bring up our flying W. We, like most schools moved to it with a new head coach. We are the Redskins (Shawnee Indians’ Former Council Hometown) and here’s our Logo. We used to have a sweet W with an Arrow going through it, I’ll see if I can find the old logo from when I played. We also had simple red and white Uni’s, and only broke out all red on homecoming night. But he too, like most have been hit with the curse of the updated Uni’s. here is a pic of the new Uni’s.

any way we can get puljos to wear a cubs glove tonight?

And So f!@*ing Taguchi too while we’re at it.

And I can’t even proofrad my posts, DAMNIT!

I was looking for the new ball in Dick’s last weekend, just to see what its like. Is it not available to the general public yet?

quote comment=”14679″]Great article Paul…as soon as I saw the picture blow up, I could see the Cubs batting glove, and I started laughing. It reminds of a few years ago when I either read or saw a tongue-in-cheek commentary about an extension of the Cubs curse, where a team that had 2 or more ex-Cub players on their roster would never win a World Series. He provided a few good examples. Unfortunately, I can’t remember who put forth that theory.

yeah, I thought that too, too much Ubi Watch I guess, I noticed it the 1st time I looked at that pic, I never really looked at that one before (I have a reason, in ‘86, I was 4!)

Ohio helmets with two different helmet decals:

the aforementioned Wooster: Right

Left

Elyria: Right

Left

Reynoldsburg: Right Left

There is also at least 15 schools with a variation of the Wisconsin “W” including Wooster, Lakota West, Wapakoneta and Wynford.

As an Alum from Wapakoneta, aka Wapak, I was going to bring up our flying W. We, like most schools moved to it with a new head coach. We are the Redskins (Shawnee Indians’ Former Council Hometown) and here’s our Logo. We used to have a sweet W with an Arrow going through it, I’ll see if I can find the old logo from when I played. We also had simple red and white Uni’s, and only broke out all red on homecoming night. But he too, like most have been hit with the curse of the updated Uni’s. here is a pic of the new Uni’s.

looks like the briscoe high hawks…

I was looking for the new ball in Dick’s last weekend, just to see what its like. Is it not available to the general public yet?

This post is borderline offensive, my friend.

Can’t speak for basketball, but in soccer, logos rarely change with the ball.

The ball changes rapidly, as 18- and 32-panel balls are introduced, depending on league preference (18-panel balls have a very “true” flight, and 32-panel balls “bend” better in flight, which encourages scoring). Balls also change as adidas and N*k* change marketing campaigns. But team and league logos will almost always stay the same.

The second photo of Cedar Falls shows another team wearing a “Motion W”: the West High Wahawks of Waterloo, IA.

Incidentally, they claim to be the only school in the country whose colors are “Old Rose” and black.

I read yesterdays colum about logo and numbers on opposite sides of the helmet and remembered playing against Southern Utah a Division IAA team and they had a logo with words already metioned as pretty bad, plus numbers on the other side personally i thought it was the ugliest thing ever. Couldn’t find a picture but the Helmet Project on nationalchamps.net makes mention of it

Think Wisconsin will sue Wooster High (from yesterday’s links) as well?

http://www.neohioact...

That Wisconsin “W” is so lame anyways, I don’t know why anyone would want to copy it. Does anyone know if there is some significance behind it? The black shading on it really throws off the whole helmet, and the way it warps is just bizarre…

The “Motion W” is pretty lame. They should go back to the 1962 look. or perhaps an updated, full-color version of the late 60s edition would be pretty sweet I think. heck, even this (the helmet of my youth) isn’t too bad - simple and elegant.

semi-aside: the cartoony version of Bucky on this kids-oriented site is totally great.

The Buckner story should be the lead on espn.com. This is like finding a film from a different camera angle of the moon landing.

note that Libertyville stole the Florida Panthers’ logo for their helmets.

For a college team doing the logo on one side and a number on the other, look no further than Division I-AA Southern Utah in 2002. Bird head on one side, block numerals on the other.

Not to sound arrogant, but I didn’t know that most people didn’t notice the Cubs logo on Buckner’s batting glove.

Thanks for having me look at the pictures and watch that effing video.

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No wonder Gary Roberts is celebrating…look at the girl in the front row to the right…it looks like Mara, Stumpel, and Roberts are checkin’ her out

As much as I like the vertically arched lettering, it looks pretty good here

whoops…the straight lettering looks good is what I meant

Who is Simeon playing? They have mismatched sleeves. (You can tell better if you look at the guy on the left.) They also have weird striping on their pants that comes around the front.

IMO, Simeon is actually the better-dressed team in this game.

And how is it that they both appear to be wearing home unis? Are they, or does one of those teams have a different home uni?

they are playing hubbard high another inner city school. in chicago a lot of the public scxhools all play on one field and it is nt uncommon to see both teams wearing colored jerseys

I was looking for the new ball in Dick’s last weekend, just to see what its like. Is it not available to the general public yet?

New travesty ball available on Eastbay.

I never realized so many NBA teams use a basketball in their logo. I thought, “there’s no way that many MLB teams use a baseball.” Well, I was wrong. The only one I could think of was the Dodgers - theirs is prominent (and it’s my fave team). But the list includes Arizona, Boston, Colorado, Florida, LA, Milwaukee, Minnesota, both NY teams, Oakland, San Fran, Seattle, and Texas. And the Expos.
As long as MLB doesn’t go to something synthetic or purple seams, these logos should be safe…

MLB Logos

That’s a great article. Amazing that in 20 years nobody had picked that up.

Hey Paul, if the Cards can hang on and close out your beloved Mets, who will you root for in the World Series of all time classic uniforms?

Think Wisconsin will sue Wooster High (from yesterday’s links) as well?

http://www.neohioact...

That Wisconsin “W” is so lame anyways, I don’t know why anyone would want to copy it. Does anyone know if there is some significance behind it? The black shading on it really throws off the whole helmet, and the way it warps is just bizarre…

The “Motion W” is pretty lame. They should go back to the 1962 look. or perhaps an updated, full-color version of the late 60s edition would be pretty sweet I think. heck, even this (the helmet of my youth) isn’t too bad - simple and elegant.

semi-aside: the cartoony version of Bucky on this kids-oriented site is totally great.

In the future can we get some kind of warning if the link you post to is going to start playing “On Wisconsin” (or any other song)? I’m at work here. It is a catchy tune though.

Let’s hope that the new NBA ball will spark at least the Wizards to redesign their logo….I think it is the worst in professional sports!

And what’s the deal with Simeon High using stock soccer drop shadow numbers??? It doesn’t look good at all!

What about all the basketball players with tattoos of the old-style basketball? Did they have any input??

Mike Bibby
Jason Williams

any info on what tattoo the net of bibby’s hoop tattoo is covering up?

Looks to me like it said “Tina.” Guess things didn’t work out with her.

I thought it said Cara…

Looks like he was doing it a little at a time, as evidenced from this days with Vancouver:

http://www.opengroup...(SC)Mike_Bibby_Photo.jpg

Let’s try that Bibby link again…

http://www.opengroup...(SC)Mike_Bibby_Photo.jpg

Let’s try that Bibby link again…

http://www.opengroup...(SC)Mike_Bibby_Photo.jpg

Shit, I give up.

Paul,

I wanted to let you know that your ESPN article got noticed by King Kaufman over at Salon.com. He mentioned it in his latest column (Found here: King Kaufman’s Sports Daily). So others are notcing, not just the uni-obsessed. Well done.

No wonder Gary Roberts is celebrating…look at the girl in the front row to the right…it looks like Mara, Stumpel, and Roberts are checkin’ her out

As much as I like the vertically arched lettering, it looks pretty good here

thats got to be the player wives section… to many hot chicks in one concentrated area so close to ice…

No wonder Gary Roberts is celebrating…look at the girl in the front row to the right…it looks like Mara, Stumpel, and Roberts are checkin’ her out

As much as I like the vertically arched lettering, it looks pretty good here

thats got to be the player wives section… to many hot chicks in one concentrated area so close to ice…

plus they’re in boston and thoos people are clearly happy that he just scored

Worst case of logo creep EVER!!!!

Major Kudos to Lancaster, Ohio school Fairfield Union for:
A. Ripping off a terrible collegiate program’s helmets (Indiana)

B. telling us all how they really feel.

home=dark in the NHL, unless Boston’s switched that up…

No wonder Gary Roberts is celebrating…look at the girl in the front row to the right…it looks like Mara, Stumpel, and Roberts are checkin’ her out

As much as I like the vertically arched lettering, it looks pretty good here

thats got to be the player wives section… to many hot chicks in one concentrated area so close to ice…

plus they’re in boston and thoos people are clearly happy that he just scored

Nope, they’re in Florida. Dark jerseys at home in the NHL…

-Ricardo

home=dark in the NHL, unless Boston’s switched that up…

Beat me by a minute…

-Ricardo

home=dark in the NHL, unless Boston’s switched that up…

Beat me by a minute…

-Ricardo

wasn’t this the other way around a few years ago… i remember going to devils game as a kid and them always wearing white

The second photo of Cedar Falls shows another team wearing a “Motion W”: the West High Wahawks of Waterloo, IA.

Incidentally, they claim to be the only school in the country whose colors are “Old Rose” and black.

Yes … ‘old rose’ is code for pink, so there’s a good reason for that claim. I guess if you’re Cedar Falls’ punching bag, pink is the right color. On senior day for baseball in 2001, they wore pink T-shirts for infield and batting practice. No no no … it’s ‘old rose.’ Right.

home=dark in the NHL, unless Boston’s switched that up…

Beat me by a minute…

-Ricardo

can’t be in Boston — since Tomorrow’s the home opener…

don’t want to call our shot to soon but we’re on pace to break the 200 comment mark (never been done before)…

Paul (or anyone else out there),
When I looked at the Major League Logo link, it reminded me of a question I