10.12.06

Tuck Rule, NBA Version

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Those purple unis aren’t the only thing the Bucks will be leaving behind this season. That news comes courtesy of Trail Blazers play-by-play man Mike Barrett, who has a blog and recently discussed some of the rulebook changes in the NBA this season. Here’s the pertinent passage:

Players can no longer come to the scorer’s table to check in with their jerseys untucked. On the floor, of course, they’ve always had to keep shirts tucked in. Those full-length leg tights that got popular last season are no longer allowed. And sweatbands may be worn only on the wrists, not on the upper arm or forearm. I thought of Kobe when I heard this one, because he always wears one on his bicep. Well, he used to. That won’t be allowed anymore. Players also won’t be allowed wear those rubber bands, which have become so popular, on their wrists. [This is apparently a reference to Livestrong-ish bands. — PL] I’m not trying to put you to sleep here, but just thought you might be interested in some of this stuff.

Note that last bit about sleep inducement, like he’s basically apologizing for talking about uni-related stuff. Is that pathetic or what? We’ve seen this kind of nonsense before, of course, usually from broadcasters who find themselves discussing uniforms on the air and then adopt that mock-ironic tone that basically says, “Ho ho ho, don’t take this too seriously, because I certainly don’t, ha ha ha.” My message to all these clowns: Either talk loud and proud or put a sock in it (striped, natch) and leave the uni chatter to the professionals.

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Stormy Weather: Uni Watch South Pole bureau chief Eric Bennett and I had driven about 80% of the way to Shea Stadium last night — through a driving rain the whole way — when, to our great relief, we heard that the game had been called. So we turned around, stopped in Rego Park to have dinner at my favorite kosher Uzbeki kebab house (menu, more menu, typical fare), and then headed back to Brooklyn, where I noticed the following while watching the Tigers/A’s game:

• Placido Polanco’s got something written under his brim.

• Polanco also appears to have a black cap button (or maybe no button at all, tough to be sure), instead of the orange button worn by everyone else.

• Add Fernando Rodney to our roster of players with undershirt tag issues.

As for our tickets, they’re good for tomorrow’s game. Weather’s supposed to be a lot colder that day, which among other things will put a serious crimp in my plans to wear a Ditch the Black T-shirt — dang.

Uni Watch News Ticker: Gotta assume that the Mets and A’s will both start wearing some sort of memorial patch or armband for Cory Lidle, since he pitched for both of those teams. Haven’t heard anything definite on this front, though. … Case Western is planning a throwback weekend in February (thanks to Todd McGuinness). … Wyoming will be wearing throwbacks — presumably similar to the ones they wore last year — this weekend (with thanks to Chad Smith). … Soccer note from A.J. Zydzik, who writes: “The German national team had a European championship qualifier against Slovakia on Wednesday and they broke out the long-sleeve jerseys, which, to my horror, have mismatched sleeves.” … Speaking of soccer, Mark Lockwood sent along this article, which includes the following passage regarding UK player Wayne Rooney: “Rooney appears to have become the latest high-profile casualty of the curse of Nike, wherein the greater the claims made in adverts for a player’s world-altering abilities, the more likely he is to pick up a long-term injury or suffer a drastic shortfall of form. ‘This is my year,’ Rooney proclaims in the advertisement for the partly reinforced carpet slippers that go by the name of his endorsed football boots these days. ‘And I’m not just going to hit the target, I’m going to destroy it.’ Get back to us on that one, Wayne.”

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The “latest” in the Nike curse? Are you serious? For every “cursed” player in Nike campaigns, there are a dozen MVPs, world champions, and once in a lifetime athletes. How’s that curse on Tiger Woods? Or Michael Jordan? Or any of a thousand other athletes? And for the record, Wayne Rooney’s suspensions and subsequent missed games caused his TEMPORARY drop in form. He has been with Nike for a while now, and he was playing fine before the suspension. Mark, I’ll bet you are a Cubs fan and you blame Bartman for the Cubs’ terrible “luck.”

Do you remember when the Marquette basketball team in the ’70s had uniforms designed to be worn untucked? I can’t find a stinkin’ photo, though.

Wow — the last thing I expected to see today was a mention of my alma mater (Case Western). For those of you who don’t know (probably all of you), Case is the amalagamation of a fairly large number of universities, most notably the Mather College for Women (hence the women’s team wearing the yellow jerseys), Adelbert College, Case Institute of Technology, and Western Reserve University. The last merger between CIT and WRU happened in the late 60’s/early 70’s, creating what was known as CWRU (though they now prefer to go by “Case”, much to the dismay of WRU alums). As such, there have to be a large number of throwbacks to choose from. It’s too bad they can’t do this on a weekend where more of the school’s teams are playing.

If you get a chance, play a game with the school’s logo. The symbol is supposed to represent the unity in community (my words). See how long it takes you to see the fat man holding a surfboard.

That German alternate or change jersey (soccer is usually separated by primaray and alternate as opposed to home and away) was the listed one for the World Cup.

It’s a standard adidas template, worn in the US by MLS’s Houston Dyanmo.

Though the one arm has been changed in the German shirt for the mismatched sleeve ugliness. But to me the most awkward part of the shirt is the off center collar. Also seen here in the MLS All-Star Jersey which is thrown off by the symmetry of the MLS All-Star logo and the team logo of the individual player.

Here’s a pic of the 1960 University of Minnesota throwbacks they’ll be wearing in their game on 10/21.

They’re also up for auction here.

I like how CWRU has to change their entire color scheme in order to have a Throwback weekend. The 2nd set with Case in script are very nice - wish there was a picture of the back of the jersey.

i was listening to the coach rod radio show last night and wvu will be wearing blue jerseys with gold pants this weekend against syracuse. this is a more traditional look for us, even though it hurts to say that considering the terrible nike templates we wear nowadays. how has uni watch let those terrible unis slide?

and another thing, rodriguez said “the players said they wanted to wear blue shirts and gold pants.” this leads me to believe that players pick the unis everyweek. has anyone heard of other teams doing this?

Here’s a pic of the 1960 University of Minnesota throwbacks they’ll be wearing in their game on 10/21.

They’re also up for auction here.

Uh, I feel it should be noted that these may not be true representations of the actual 1960 Gopher uniforms… the real ones didn’t have swooshes all over the damn place. ;-)

Wow — the last thing I expected to see today was a mention of my alma mater (Case Western). For those of you who don’t know (probably all of you), Case is the amalagamation of a fairly large number of universities, most notably the Mather College for Women (hence the women’s team wearing the yellow jerseys), Adelbert College, Case Institute of Technology, and Western Reserve University. The last merger between CIT and WRU happened in the late 60’s/early 70’s, creating what was known as CWRU (though they now prefer to go by “Case”, much to the dismay of WRU alums). As such, there have to be a large number of throwbacks to choose from. It’s too bad they can’t do this on a weekend where more of the school’s teams are playing.

If you get a chance, play a game with the school’s logo. The symbol is supposed to represent the unity in community (my words). See how long it takes you to see the fat man holding a surfboard.

Exactly .7 seconds!!

Hey Paul- Are those kebobs, or are you slowly introducing us to another sport who’s unis and equipment we’ll need to keep an eye on?

The New Orleans Saints reportedly will be wearing new uniforms next season. Head coach Sean Payton applied with the NFL for a uniform change this season but the NFL requires at least a one year heads-up. Any ideas or inside scoop as to what the Saints will be wearing next season? I wish they would go with a single black helmet stripe or do away with the helmet stripe entirely; or maybe add a contrasting trim color to the uniform.

The New Orleans Saints reportedly will be wearing new uniforms next season. Head coach Sean Payton applied with the NFL for a uniform change this season but the NFL requires at least a one year heads-up. Any ideas or inside scoop as to what the Saints will be wearing next season? I wish they would go with a single black helmet stripe or do away with the helmet stripe entirely; or maybe add a contrasting trim color to the uniform.

I think they should leave them - just go back to wearing black at home. There’s nothing wrong with the unis they have, they’re still classics.

All this talk about the Mets leads me to this…

Go Cards!

I’ll second that.

I’ll third that…is that even a real phrase?

im pumped. what sucks is that, i think this season may be their last good run…
if anyone knows what happened to tom lawless, hero of game 4 of the ‘87 series, tell him we could use some more of his unlikely heroics…

I don’t know about that. I’m gonna give Walt the benefit of the doubt in the offseason. You don’t go to the NLCS 3 years in a row and what 5 in the last 7 years?

I have faith in Walt, but it is going to be one of his tougher offseasons. We could be looking at a new 2B, SS, CF and probably 3 new starters. I wouldn’t mind them bringing back Belliard and Edmonds at a reduced salary, but we better have a good backup OF other than So in case/when Jimmy gets hurt again.

I am going to enjoy this postseason though, and keep my fingers crossed we win at least one game since I have NLCS game 5 tickets.

This was posted from yesterday, just now getting a chance to respond.

I completely agree with you about finding players at that position. As much as I love Eckstein, we need a better arm at short. Ronnie has done a good job since he came over. As for Edmonds, I would absolutely hate to see someone else in center next year. Jim E. has been mine and my brother’s favorite player for awhile now. He just needs to get healthy, I know he’s getting older, but he’ll be OK. I have faith in Walt to get the position players sewn up, the thing I’m worried about is the pitching next year.

Oh and if you need someone to go to Game 5, I’ll drive down from Chicago!!

GO CARD’S!!!

Paul,
Is that place open late, looks great might check it out after the game tonight. Was planning on going to Park Side in Corona.

i was listening to the coach rod radio show last night and wvu will be wearing blue jerseys with gold pants this weekend against syracuse. this is a more traditional look for us, even though it hurts to say that considering the terrible nike templates we wear nowadays. how has uni watch let those terrible unis slide?

and another thing, rodriguez said “the players said they wanted to wear blue shirts and gold pants.” this leads me to believe that players pick the unis everyweek. has anyone heard of other teams doing this?

WVU’s current sartorial abominations are a sad departure from the classy, simple design worn for most of the Don Nehlen era. Like Oregon, WVU sports a handsome, instantly recognizable helmet… but from the neck down, they’re a disaster, one of the ten worst uniforms in Division I.

Couple great local stories about Lidle. One, he was nicknamed “Snacks” because he loved junk food so much. And then, he had a twin brother, so once he had his brother put on a uniform, and go down to warm up when the pitching coach asked him to, presumably while he hid in the clubhouse!

Paul,
Is that place open late, looks great might check it out after the game tonight. Was planning on going to Park Side in Corona.

Ah, with dessert at the Lemon Ice King, right?

Not sure how late Cheburechnaya is open. Their address and phone number (and a full review by my pal Rob’t Sietsema) are available here.

PL: Weather’s supposed to be a lot colder that day, which among other things will put a serious crimp in my plans to wear a Ditch the Black T-shirt — dang.

Get a sweet Nike dot-matrix long sleeve undershirt to wear beneath your DTB gear. Duh! Actually it looks like those might not be available to us mortals quite yet. There’s always this, though. (Also available in purple and black.)

I think (the Saints) should leave them - just go back to wearing black at home. There’s nothing wrong with the unis they have, they’re still classics.

I kinda agree with you, except for the helmets… I am a fan of traditional style uniforms. However, the helmet stripes on the current uniform bothers me, particularly with the black jerseys. The helmet was designed to coordinate with the original uniforms which had identical stripes on the pants, like Green Bay and Dallas, for example. As the uniform evolved over the years the pants stripes changed but not the helmet stripes. The Saints black jerseys have gold numerals with a thin white trim and their gold paints have a broad solid black stripe. IMO the white helmet stripe looks out of place with the black jerseys. If the Saints kept basically the same uniform I think it would look better with a single black helmet stripe (such as Oakland’s) or no stripe at all. BTW a few years ago Jim Haslett applied to the NFL to change the Saints helmets to black but was turned down, presumably because there were already several teams, including their division rival Atlanta, with black helmets.

Not to worry Paul, you’re favortie Uni Watch South Pole Bureau Chief is prepared for friday nights game with a couple of classic blue and orange knit hats from fan appriciation days of yore.
Just don’t forget to bring that bag of malted milk balls

Response to Post # 4 by Kim and the topic of the German shirts in general -

Actually, the German shirt pictured is not the same template as the Houston Dynamo. Believe it or not their Away shirt is actually the same template as their Home shirt, they’ve just colored the panels of the shirt differently. Whereas the Dynamo’s template has that very odd neckline, the Germany shirts have the same, symmetrical neckline. The Dynamo template is also worn by Trinidad & Tobago, Romania, and Ajax of Amsterdam.

Also, in response to the mention in the blog about the shirt, the fact that it is long sleeved is kind of irrelevent. The sleeves are mismatched because it is the design of the shirt (for better or for worse) and has nothing to do with the fact that the shirt is long sleeved. You can get the shirt with short sleeves or long sleeves.

Did anyone see the “Stunna Shades” that Milton Bradley was wearing in the field last night? I can’t seem to find a picture of it but I think they are a major improvement over the flip up style. Also I thought that these were not allowed or is that only for pitchers?

I love seeing the NBA take control of some uni-related issued. Why can’t MLB show some ‘nads and ban slacks?

wow.

i’m both excited and nervous about ANY changes to the Saints uniforms…

they are one of my alltime favorites. the throwback ones i love and the kinda older ones with the LA state outline on the pants i love, too…

my only problem with it is its an OBVIOUS attempt to grab more cash.

first there was the Reggie Bush #5
then the REAL Reggie Bush uni.
so i guess now that everyone has one or the other they are going to need the NEW Reggie Bush uni…

ugh.

i really hope they incorporate some Katrina memory, be it the date or something, in the uni, ala the Bears and the Halas letters on the sleeve.

maybe that’d be in bad taste as they try to rebuild, though? huh. not sure. i’ll think more on that.

This was posted from yesterday, just now getting a chance to respond.

I completely agree with you about finding players at that position. As much as I love Eckstein, we need a better arm at short. Ronnie has done a good job since he came over. As for Edmonds, I would absolutely hate to see someone else in center next year. Jim E. has been mine and my brother’s favorite player for awhile now. He just needs to get healthy, I know he’s getting older, but he’ll be OK. I have faith in Walt to get the position players sewn up, the thing I’m worried about is the pitching next year.

Oh and if you need someone to go to Game 5, I’ll drive down from Chicago!!

GO CARD’S!!!

I don’t mind Eckstein at short, or we could possibly move him to 2B if Belliard leaves. I don’t think his arm really hurts us that much and he is a good leadoff guy.

As for Edmonds, I don’t see the Cards picking up his 8 figure option. Hopefully there won’t be hard feelings and they can work out a cheaper alternative. I’m not sure what free agents are out there that would take his place and we really have no trade bait that would fetch us a CF.

The rotation will be the big question mark after Carpenter and Reyes.

As for Game 5, my wife got first dibs and she is pumped about going. My 2 brothers were praying she said no.

Also I thought that these were not allowed or is that only for pitchers?

That is only for pitchers, as they could cause a distraction to the hitter, just like a white glove or jewelry.

i love and the kinda older ones with the LA state outline on the pants i love, too…

I remember when the Saints introduced the Louisiana state outline on their uniforms… Bum Phillips was the coach. At the time, the Saints were flirting with relocating to Jacksonville so one the local television sportscasters suggested that the Saints apply the Louisiana state emblem to their uniforms with velcro just in case. :>)

Couldn’t find the “untucked” MU unis from the early 70s but I did find these that immediately preceded them. These were the prototypes for the “hashmark” unis worn by Cleveland during the Jim Chones era. Sadly they’re in black and white or you could see the San Diego-collegiate blue, the yellow and black hashmarks on the side and the upward-arching MARQUETTE in all their glory.

In an early version of what a lot of schools have now with Nike, Under Armor and the rest, Marquette was the “test school”: for Medalist Sand-Knit, which also did the famous Astros rainbow unis. Among the MU classics were the bumblebees (black with horizontal yellow pinstripes) and the untucked, which featured both the team name and the player name below the numbers, just to make zure you had a reason to untuck the shirt.

And just to make this post way longer than it should be, possibly the best team picture of all time, Marquette’s 1977 NCAA champs, taken at a Milwaukee auto museum.

Here is one poor image of the untucked Marquette jerseys:
Marquette
It’s from the back, but it’ll have to suffice for now.

PL: Weather’s supposed to be a lot colder that day, which among other things will put a serious crimp in my plans to wear a Ditch the Black T-shirt — dang.

Get a sweet Nike dot-matrix long sleeve undershirt to wear beneath your DTB gear. Duh! Actually it looks like those might not be available to us mortals quite yet. There’s always this, though. (Also available in purple and black.)

Hey Paul,
I guess you won’t be wearing this under your “Ditch the Black” shirt?

wow.

i’m both excited and nervous about ANY changes to the Saints uniforms…

they are one of my alltime favorites. the throwback ones i love and the kinda older ones with the LA state outline on the pants i love, too…

my only problem with it is its an OBVIOUS attempt to grab more cash.

first there was the Reggie Bush #5
then the REAL Reggie Bush uni.
so i guess now that everyone has one or the other they are going to need the NEW Reggie Bush uni…

ugh.

i really hope they incorporate some Katrina memory, be it the date or something, in the uni, ala the Bears and the Halas letters on the sleeve.

maybe that’d be in bad taste as they try to rebuild, though? huh. not sure. i’ll think more on that.

Personally, if I were Saints fan (and who isn’t at this point), I would be nervous about this. Just look at how most of the recent uni redesigns have gone: Vikes, Bills, Broncos, Bengals, Lions… all atrocious. None of them can hold a candle to this - helmet stripe or not.

If they start messing with them, recent history says it’s going to get ugly.

PL: Weather’s supposed to be a lot colder that day, which among other things will put a serious crimp in my plans to wear a Ditch the Black T-shirt — dang.

Get a sweet Nike dot-matrix long sleeve undershirt to wear beneath your DTB gear. Duh! Actually it looks like those might not be available to us mortals quite yet. There’s always this, though. (Also available in purple and black.)

Wow….Nike is is now making tops with an inner bra for men! Or is it a bro?

Go Tigers!

Any truth to the rumor that the Angels may sport new scarlet alternate jerseys next season?

The “latest” in the Nike curse? Are you serious? For every “cursed” player in Nike campaigns, there are a dozen MVPs, world champions, and once in a lifetime athletes. How’s that curse on Tiger Woods? Or Michael Jordan? Or any of a thousand other athletes? And for the record, Wayne Rooney’s suspensions and subsequent missed games caused his TEMPORARY drop in form. He has been with Nike for a while now, and he was playing fine before the suspension. Mark, I’ll bet you are a Cubs fan and you blame Bartman for the Cubs’ terrible “luck.”

It’s a soccer-specific curse. Witness Ronaldinho’s performance in the WC this year while he was all over the telly in Nike’s “Joga Bonito” ads. Plus, Rooney had the foot injury to come back from right before the WC.

The “latest” in the Nike curse? Are you serious? For every “cursed” player in Nike campaigns, there are a dozen MVPs, world champions, and once in a lifetime athletes. How’s that curse on Tiger Woods? Or Michael Jordan? Or any of a thousand other athletes? And for the record, Wayne Rooney’s suspensions and subsequent missed games caused his TEMPORARY drop in form. He has been with Nike for a while now, and he was playing fine before the suspension. Mark, I’ll bet you are a Cubs fan and you blame Bartman for the Cubs’ terrible “luck.”

I believe your are taking that quote out of context. The Times correspondent was strictly referring to UK Footballers that have had various foot problems, specifically metatarsal (sp?)issues once they use Nike boots. Let’s not be a Nike apologist, everyone that’s anyone in World Football knows that Nike is a ‘johnny come lately’ onto the world football scene and can’t hold adidas’ jock when it comes to the beautiful game. Nike should continue outfitting clowns like Oregon Univ. and those overrated fools from Jogo Bonito and let the rest of the footballing community alone and stop inflicting all those stupid cookie cutter kits that only appeal to silly short attention spanned 12 years old.
There, I said.

Do you remember when the Marquette basketball team in the ’70s had uniforms designed to be worn untucked? I can’t find a stinkin’ photo, though.

Yes !!! I loved those. DePaul had the same unis. Marquette’s had a blue/gold/white running down the sides of the shirts and shorts — you’re referring to the Marquette 1977 team, and Depaul wore them into the early 80’s (aguirre & cummings era)

My memory may be playing tricks on me, but I seem to recall that at least a couple of basketball players (I can’t recall who, or even if it was college or NBA) wore ordinary rubber bands (the office-supply variety) around their wrists. I recall this from at least 5 or 6 years ago, maybe earlier, so the reference to “those rubber bands” may refer to more than just Livestrong-type thingies.

Here is one poor image of the untucked Marquette jerseys:
Marquette
It’s from the back, but it’ll have to suffice for now.

Here’s a shot from the front.

And don’t forget the other famously untucked team.

Any truth to the rumor that the Angels may sport new scarlet alternate jerseys next season?

Yes, they will. Unlees by scarlett you mean a different shade than their primary red color.

The Pirates will go red also.

The Colorado Rapids (MLS) will be ‘rebranding’ next year as they move into their new stadium

They’re ditching black and blue (which replaced the original green) for maroon and baby blue/grey. New logo

Response to Post # 4 by Kim and the topic of the German shirts in general -

Actually, the German shirt pictured is not the same template as the Houston Dynamo. Believe it or not their Away shirt is actually the same template as their Home shirt, they’ve just colored the panels of the shirt differently. Whereas the Dynamo’s template has that very odd neckline, the Germany shirts have the same, symmetrical neckline. The Dynamo template is also worn by Trinidad & Tobago, Romania, and Ajax of Amsterdam.

Also, in response to the mention in the blog about the shirt, the fact that it is long sleeved is kind of irrelevent. The sleeves are mismatched because it is the design of the shirt (for better or for worse) and has nothing to do with the fact that the shirt is long sleeved.

You can get the shirt with short sleeves or long sleeves.

Germany aren’t the only team with mismatched sleeves, see the Liverpool European Away kit which is white with one green sleeve, coincidentally, also by adidas

Let’s not be a Nike apologist, everyone that’s anyone in World Football knows that Nike is a ‘johnny come lately’ onto the world football scene and can’t hold adidas’ jock when it comes to the beautiful game. Nike should continue outfitting clowns like Oregon Univ. and those overrated fools from Jogo Bonito and let the rest of the footballing community alone and stop inflicting all those stupid cookie cutter kits that only appeal to silly short attention spanned 12 years old.
There, I said.

I’m pretty sure it was adidas that was supplying their nations with cookie cutter kits this year, while Nike had unique designs for their countries.

Sure Nike is fairly new to soccer, but everybody has to start somewhere. Everybody here raves about Under Armour, but that company was started after Nike took soccer seriously, and none of the anti-Nike myopics call UA a “johnny come lately”.

This was posted from yesterday, just now getting a chance to respond.

I completely agree with you about finding players at that position. As much as I love Eckstein, we need a better arm at short. Ronnie has done a good job since he came over. As for Edmonds, I would absolutely hate to see someone else in center next year. Jim E. has been mine and my brother’s favorite player for awhile now. He just needs to get healthy, I know he’s getting older, but he’ll be OK. I have faith in Walt to get the position players sewn up, the thing I’m worried about is the pitching next year.

Oh and if you need someone to go to Game 5, I’ll drive down from Chicago!!

GO CARD’S!!!

I don’t mind Eckstein at short, or we could possibly move him to 2B if Belliard leaves. I don’t think his arm really hurts us that much and he is a good leadoff guy.

As for Edmonds, I don’t see the Cards picking up his 8 figure option. Hopefully there won’t be hard feelings and they can work out a cheaper alternative. I’m not sure what free agents are out there that would take his place and we really have no trade bait that would fetch us a CF.

The rotation will be the big question mark after Carpenter and Reyes.

As for Game 5, my wife got first dibs and she is pumped about going. My 2 brothers were praying she said no.

Well I hoped/figured you would have someone to go with you, but it was worth throwin’ it out there. Well hopefully you get to go and the Mets wear the black, cuz I think someone said last time they wore them in the playoffs they lost.

From Paul:
And don’t forget the other famously untucked team.

At the time, these were awful. But I prefer this look (striped socks and no pajama bottoms) to what we have to look at now.

Just got Sports Illustrated’s “The Baseball Look”. It’s got great photos of unis throughout the decades. One funny gaffe on the cover is a colorized black & white photo of Ted Williams with blue socks.

i don’t have a screen grab but did anyone see todd jones untuck his jersey last night in the middle of his interview on fox? i guess i can understand since he probably would have had to wait about 1-2 minutes before he was off the field. that’s quite a long time to keep the shirt tucked in.

Did anyone see the “Stunna Shades” that Milton Bradley was wearing in the field last night? I can’t seem to find a picture of it but I think they are a major improvement over the flip up style. Also I thought that these were not allowed or is that only for pitchers?

Here is one Milton Bradley

The “latest” in the Nike curse? Are you serious?

Yes.

Ever since Nike (allegedly) made Ronaldo play in the World Cup Final (2002?) every football (soccer) player who has been the focus of Nike’s advertising campaigns has been less successful after than before.

… and LETS GO METS.

i don’t have a screen grab but did anyone see todd jones untuck his jersey last night in the middle of his interview on fox? i guess i can understand since he probably would have had to wait about 1-2 minutes before he was off the field. that’s quite a long time to keep the shirt tucked in.

Yea, I definitely caught that… I thought it was a blatent attempt at garnering ’street cred’.
sad old tubby man trying to look ‘cool’. :)

Response to Post # 4 by Kim and the topic of the German shirts in general -

Actually, the German shirt pictured is not the same template as the Houston Dynamo. Believe it or not their Away shirt is actually the same template as their Home shirt, they’ve just colored the panels of the shirt differently. Whereas the Dynamo’s template has that very odd neckline, the Germany shirts have the same, symmetrical neckline. The Dynamo template is also worn by Trinidad & Tobago, Romania, and Ajax of Amsterdam.

Also, in response to the mention in the blog about the shirt, the fact that it is long sleeved is kind of irrelevent. The sleeves are mismatched because it is the design of the shirt (for better or for worse) and has nothing to do with the fact that the shirt is long sleeved.

You can get the shirt with short sleeves or long sleeves.

Thanks, I didn’t look at the German kit close enough. You’re absolutely right. adidas essentially has three templates, and I managed to get it wrong….

Thanks, I didn’t look at the German kit close enough. You’re absolutely right. adidas essentially has three templates, and I managed to get it wrong….

No worries. You’d have to be pretty anal about sort of thing in order to even catch it. Which I am.

Let’s not be a Nike apologist, everyone that’s anyone in World Football knows that Nike is a ‘johnny come lately’ onto the world football scene and can’t hold adidas’ jock when it comes to the beautiful game. Nike should continue outfitting clowns like Oregon Univ. and those overrated fools from Jogo Bonito and let the rest of the footballing community alone and stop inflicting all those stupid cookie cutter kits that only appeal to silly short attention spanned 12 years old.
There, I said.

I’m pretty sure it was adidas that was supplying their nations with cookie cutter kits this year, while Nike had unique designs for their countries.

Sure Nike is fairly new to soccer, but everybody has to start somewhere. Everybody here raves about Under Armour, but that company was started after Nike took soccer seriously, and none of the anti-Nike myopics call UA a “johnny come lately”.

Hmmm… USA, Mexico, Holland, Brasil, Australia, Korea did not sport identical kits just previous to 2006? No one doubts that making an imprint in a community takes time, what I have a problem with is Nike’s bull in a china shop approach. I don’t have a problem with that tact in American sporting events and traditions, but the swoosh attempts to make it’s imprint on the world game in the same brash manner as a un-named clueless fool that has set back this nation 2 decades.
Maybe comparing Knight to that doofus is a stretch–pero no importa, ya me tiene sin cuidado.

dan said:

bud wv said:

i was listening to the coach rod radio show last night and wvu will be wearing blue jerseys with gold pants this weekend against syracuse. this is a more traditional look for us, even though it hurts to say that considering the terrible nike templates we wear nowadays. how has uni watch let those terrible unis slide?

and another thing, rodriguez said “the players said they wanted to wear blue shirts and gold pants.” this leads me to believe that players pick the unis everyweek. has anyone heard of other teams doing this?

WVU’s current sartorial abominations are a sad departure from the classy, simple design worn for most of the Don Nehlen era. Like Oregon, WVU sports a handsome, instantly recognizable helmet… but from the neck down, they’re a disaster, one of the ten worst uniforms in Division I.

it really is sad. we had one of the best unis back in the 80’s and 90’s (think michigan plus some white trim). our helmet is still top notch, and even though i have an admitted bias, i would still rank it in the top five helmets in college football. the thing thats even more sad is that we had nike uniforms back in the late nehlen days and still kept the classic design. seems to me that rich rod is another example of a coach wanting to put his own stamp on the progam. and thats not something i particularly have a problem with all the time, but he could have at least stayed away from the nike defaults because now we just look like cal with more illegible numbering.

what does everyone think of as their top five helmet designs?

I’m pretty sure it was adidas that was supplying their nations with cookie cutter kits this year, while Nike had unique designs for their countries.

Sure Nike is fairly new to soccer, but everybody has to start somewhere. Everybody here raves about Under Armour, but that company was started after Nike took soccer seriously, and none of the anti-Nike myopics call UA a “johnny come lately”.

I’ve been obsessive about soccer jerseys for as long as I can remember, I’ve collected them for about 12 years, and I design them for fun in my spare time. And whether they’ve been around forever or not, I don’t think Adidas kits hold a candle to Nike’s. I’m not willing to write Nike a free pass for things like Oregon’s football unis (though if you take off the cross hatch pattern, they’re not that bad) or for team USA’s basketball uniforms. But as far as the world of soccer is concerned, Nike is staying true to soccer’s roots, and Adidas has lost the plot. This and this are things of beauty. This and this are an embarrassment to the sport.

Geez, eveything I want to say has already been said.

Thanks Austin Gray (#20) for clearing that German jersey thing up. I was about to do that myself.

Miguel (#41), I couldn’t have said it better myself. A arauz, Maybe Nike does that with such confidence because they have the quality products now to back it up. And yes, I think that comparison is a stretch.

Get a sweet Nike dot-matrix long sleeve undershirt to wear beneath your DTB gear. Duh! Actually it looks like those might not be available to us mortals quite yet. There’s always this, though. (Also available in purple and black.)

I’ve seen the dot-matrix sleeves in Nike Town stores..not sure if they’re in regular sports stores yet…Paul, you’ve got plenty of time to get “Ditch the Black” embroidered on a hoodie or even on the back of a Mets MLB jacket…

The last merger between CIT and WRU happened in the late 60’s/early 70’s, creating what was known as CWRU (though they now prefer to go by “Case”, much to the dismay of WRU alums). As such, there have to be a large number of throwbacks to choose from. It’s too bad they can’t do this on a weekend where more of the school’s teams are playing.

Actually it was a “federation” between the schools, and not a merger per se. ;)
Yeah, CWRU has had some unique mascots in the past — the Rough Riders and the Red Cats. A couple years ago there was talk of changing away from the Spartans and to something else..There was talk of the “Red Riders” as it harkens back to the day of the two schools, but apparently they just updated the Spartan. The XC team does use Red Riders as its unofficial nickname. On a personal level, I’d like them to do throwbacks for the swim team — use those old suits with the shoulder straps from the 30s and 40s.

dan said:

bud wv said:

i was listening to the coach rod radio show last night and wvu will be wearing blue jerseys with gold pants this weekend against syracuse. this is a more traditional look for us, even though it hurts to say that considering the terrible nike templates we wear nowadays. how has uni watch let those terrible unis slide?

and another thing, rodriguez said “the players said they wanted to wear blue shirts and gold pants.” this leads me to believe that players pick the unis everyweek. has anyone heard of other teams doing this?

WVU’s current sartorial abominations are a sad departure from the classy, simple design worn for most of the Don Nehlen era. Like Oregon, WVU sports a handsome, instantly recognizable helmet… but from the neck down, they’re a disaster, one of the ten worst uniforms in Division I.

it really is sad. we had one of the best unis back in the 80’s and 90’s (think michigan plus some white trim). our helmet is still top notch, and even though i have an admitted bias, i would still rank it in the top five helmets in college football. the thing thats even more sad is that we had nike uniforms back in the late nehlen days and still kept the classic design. seems to me that rich rod is another example of a coach wanting to put his own stamp on the progam. and thats not something i particularly have a problem with all the time, but he could have at least stayed away from the nike defaults because now we just look like cal with more illegible numbering.

what does everyone think of as their top five helmet designs?

1. Michigan (’nuff said)
2. Georgia (can’t mess with that)
3. USC (classic)
4. Alabama (I think the numbers look real cool)
5. Oregon (green, although I hate to give Oregon props on anything!)

There’s probably a bunch I’m forgetting - Penn State, Ohio State, Notre Dame and Texas are all cool, too.

adidas hasn’t earned themselves any points by making awful jersey designs for their flagship team.

Case in Point

and there’s nothing wrong with Mexico’s current uni. I love the ghosted Aztec print.

i don’t have a screen grab but did anyone see todd jones untuck his jersey last night in the middle of his interview on fox? i guess i can understand since he probably would have had to wait about 1-2 minutes before he was off the field. that’s quite a long time to keep the shirt tucked in.

Dang I was going to mention that. It must have been cold however because he was wearing quite the sweater underneath is jersey, oh wait…

Top helmet designs. Good question. I’m bias with Oregon, but here are my choices from each conference (with alternates). I don’t really like any in the MAC or Sun Belt. Also, I think ND, Navy, and Army all look classic, but if they’re too stubborn to join a conference, then they don’t get a vote. :-)

Florida State (North Carolina)
Syracuse (West Virginia…I think the W & V should form the shape of the state)
Michigan (Ohio State)
Nebraska (Texas)
Marshall (SMU)
Wyoming (Utah)
Oregon (USC)
Alabama (Tennesse)
Nevada (San Jose State would have got it, before the change)

dan said:

bud wv said:

i was listening to the coach rod radio show last night and wvu will be wearing blue jerseys with gold pants this weekend against syracuse. this is a more traditional look for us, even though it hurts to say that considering the terrible nike templates we wear nowadays. how has uni watch let those terrible unis slide?

and another thing, rodriguez said “the players said they wanted to wear blue shirts and gold pants.” this leads me to believe that players pick the unis everyweek. has anyone heard of other teams doing this?

WVU’s current sartorial abominations are a sad departure from the classy, simple design worn for most of the Don Nehlen era. Like Oregon, WVU sports a handsome, instantly recognizable helmet… but from the neck down, they’re a disaster, one of the ten worst uniforms in Division I.

it really is sad. we had one of the best unis back in the 80’s and 90’s (think michigan plus some white trim). our helmet is still top notch, and even though i have an admitted bias, i would still rank it in the top five helmets in college football. the thing thats even more sad is that we had nike uniforms back in the late nehlen days and still kept the classic design. seems to me that rich rod is another example of a coach wanting to put his own stamp on the progam. and thats not something i particularly have a problem with all the time, but he could have at least stayed away from the nike defaults because now we just look like cal with more illegible numbering.

what does everyone think of as their top five helmet designs?

Didn’t know there were actually other WVU fans here!

I agree with the above comments, what really made me sad this year was the denver broncos-like “swoosh” strip on the side of the pants. That was not there last year. The blue on blue also doesn’t sit well with me, but as long as the ‘eers keep winning, I’ll try and keep my mouth shut.

80’s and 90’s unis were great, but there was a while in the late 90’s when WVU adopted the Dallas Coyboys number font, which didn’t make me real happy either.

Response to Post # 4 by Kim and the topic of the German shirts in general -

Actually, the German shirt pictured is not the same template as the Houston Dynamo. Believe it or not their Away shirt is actually the same template as their Home shirt, they’ve just colored the panels of the shirt differently. Whereas the Dynamo’s template has that very odd neckline, the Germany shirts have the same, symmetrical neckline. The Dynamo template is also worn by Trinidad & Tobago, Romania, and Ajax of Amsterdam.

Also, in response to the mention in the blog about the shirt, the fact that it is long sleeved is kind of irrelevent. The sleeves are mismatched because it is the design of the shirt (for better or for worse) and has nothing to do with the fact that the shirt is long sleeved.

You can get the shirt with short sleeves or long sleeves.

Thanks, I didn’t look at the German kit close enough. You’re absolutely right. adidas essentially has three templates, and I managed to get it wrong….

FYI, the official designations for the kits are United (for the Germany/Liverpool style) and Libero (for the Dynamo/Ajax style). The United shirt is the higher-end shirt, and it’s being pushed by most of adidas’ top clubs, like Milan and Real Madrid.

I have a Houston shirt and it’s pretty breathable and lightweight. I haven’t had a chance to feel the United yet.


Syracuse (West Virginia…I think the W & V should form the shape of the state)

I see where you’re going with the “shape of the state” thing, but have you actually looked at the state? The northern pan-handle would be kinda tough to work into the logo.

At least our overall unis are still better than Syracuse. I was watching their game last weekend with some non-uni watchers, and one of the guys actually said, “those are horrible, I though the color on the TV was messed up, but those are actually thier uniforms!”

Yeah, I’ve looked at the state (I make maps for a living). I think it could be done.

Regarding SYR, I can’t explain why but I kind of like their uni’s. Granted, I’d throw in a small amount of white here and there, but I like the two-tone look. Even if it is orange on blue. I’m a Duck fan, so maybe I am open for going along with anything else that’s out there…

i gotta admit i’m a little surprised at some of the responses for favorite helmets. i was expecting some of the classics (ND, michigan), but hear names like orgegon thrown around in the same sentence is sort of a shock. granted i do like the orgeon helmet, but i would never consider it in the same group as classics just because it has only been around since the late 90’s (i think).

i remember a great story not too long ago, i cant remember where it was or who wrote it, but it ran down all the bowl games in the recent past and showed that teams that had stuck with a particular helmet design for over 20 years had a much higher winning percentage. anyone else remember this?

helmets:

Texas
USC
BYU
HARVARD
Univ. of RI
Clemson
West Virgina
Marshall
Air Force

what does everyone think of as their top five helmet designs?

1. Michigan (’nuff said)
2. Georgia (can’t mess with that)
3. USC (classic)
4. Alabama (I think the numbers look real cool)
5. Oregon (green, although I hate to give Oregon props on anything!)

There’s probably a bunch I’m forgetting - Penn State, Ohio State, Notre Dame and Texas are all cool, too.

Here’s mine:
1. Notre Dame (Gold in the paint, marone!)
2. Michigan (The wings are sweet)
3. Alabama (Classic)
4. FSU (Gotta admit hate the school, love the helmet)
5. Florida (combo of that throwback and their regular helmet is enough to get top 5 for me)

Honorable mentions:
Ohio State (love the buckeye stickers dominating the helmets)
USC
Texas
Michigan State
And my school UCF Goooooooo Knights!

FYI, the official designations for the kits are United (for the Germany/Liverpool style) and Libero (for the Dynamo/Ajax style). The United shirt is the higher-end shirt, and it’s being pushed by most of adidas’ top clubs, like Milan and Real Madrid.

I have a Houston shirt and it’s pretty breathable and lightweight. I haven’t had a chance to feel the United yet.

Milan actually uses a different template for their home shirt that wasn’t previously linked on this site. Do you know what it’s called?

Yeah, I’ve looked at the state (I make maps for a living). I think it could be done.

Regarding SYR, I can’t explain why but I kind of like their uni’s. Granted, I’d throw in a small amount of white here and there, but I like the two-tone look. Even if it is orange on blue. I’m a Duck fan, so maybe I am open for going along with anything else that’s out there…

Well, as a duck fan, you’d have to be open minded. I’m actually one of the few who don’t really mind Oregon’s uniforms (although I’m not fond of the predominantly yellow ones or the “metal diamond dealies”)–but I really don’t like Syracuse’s, but I’ll agree with a little white here and there they would be much better.

As far as the state thing, I’m too biased as an alum to want to change the flying WV–I guess it could be done, but I think it would look awkward and not as classic.

Paul,
Is that place open late, looks great might check it out after the game tonight. Was planning on going to Park Side in Corona.

Ah, with dessert at the Lemon Ice King, right?

Not sure how late Cheburechnaya is open. Their address and phone number (and a full review by my pal Rob’t Sietsema) are available here.

Exactly Paul, followed by some ices, sometimes if I’m really fat I get a cannoli at Park Side before walking acroos the street.

Lets Go Mets

Yeah, I’ve looked at the state (I make maps for a living). I think it could be done.

Regarding SYR, I can’t explain why but I kind of like their uni’s. Granted, I’d throw in a small amount of white here and there, but I like the two-tone look. Even if it is orange on blue. I’m a Duck fan, so maybe I am open for going along with anything else that’s out there…

Well, as a duck fan, you’d have to be open minded. I’m actually one of the few who don’t really mind Oregon’s uniforms (although I’m not fond of the predominantly yellow ones or the “metal diamond dealies”)–but I really don’t like Syracuse’s, but I’ll agree with a little white here and there they would be much better.

As far as the state thing, I’m too biased as an alum to want to change the flying WV–I guess it could be done, but I think it would look awkward and not as classic.

Honestly, if Oregon didn’t have the chrome plating crap (we get it guys, you look tough) I’d be somewhat ok with things. I really hate the use of black. Especially when they could just use a really dark green if they wanted to go that route. Maybe I should start a “Ditch The Quack Black” petition. Hehheh…not a friggin bad idea come to think of it!!

As for WV, I definitely hear you on not wanting to change things at this point. It is pretty classic. How long has thet helmet been around? I could look it up I guess…

Ohio States helmets when the buckeyes start filling it up and the sparkle of the silver when they play under the lights are the best.

ive always liked that the shape of west virginia…
http://www.americanf...
looked like the shape of this…
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if im not mistaken they make that gesture in morgantown at games

helmets:

Texas
USC
BYU
HARVARD
Univ. of RI
Clemson
West Virgina
Marshall
Air Force

There’s a lot of great helmet out there, how about the bad ones?

I’d like to nominate U. of Md.’s “Terps” helmet–they really need to go back to the simple “M” helmets.

Any others?

ive always liked that the shape of west virginia…
http://www.americanf...
looked like the shape of this…
http://i9.tinypic.co...
if im not mistaken they make that gesture in morgantown at games

West Virinians will make that gesture to create a make-shift map to explain where places within the state are. “It’s north of Wheeling, just past my knuckle”.

And usually it’s the visitors making that gesture at the mountaineer fans during the games.

I love seeing the NBA take control of some uni-related issued. Why can’t MLB show some ‘nads and ban slacks?

Well, I mean … we don’t REALLY want to see the players’ nads, do we? They’d probably be really hard to find, anyway, what with all the steroids and all. I … oh WAIT, you meant … oh. Right. Sorry.

Response to Post # 4 by Kim and the topic of the German shirts in general -

Actually, the German shirt pictured is not the same template as the Houston Dynamo. Believe it or not their Away shirt is actually the same template as their Home shirt, they’ve just colored the panels of the shirt differently. Whereas the Dynamo’s template has that very odd neckline, the Germany shirts have the same, symmetrical neckline. The Dynamo template is also worn by Trinidad & Tobago, Romania, and Ajax of Amsterdam.

Also, in response to the mention in the blog about the shirt, the fact that it is long sleeved is kind of irrelevent. The sleeves are mismatched because it is the design of the shirt (for better or for worse) and has nothing to do with the fact that the shirt is long sleeved.

You can get the shirt with short sleeves or long sleeves.

All correct. My addition is that players choose long sleeve or short sleeve, and their choice does not have to match that of their teammates. Rooney often wears long sleeves when his teammates do not, as shown in this picture.

helmets:

Texas
USC
BYU
HARVARD
Univ. of RI
Clemson
West Virgina
Marshall
Air Force

There’s a lot of great helmet out there, how about the bad ones?

I’d like to nominate U. of Md.’s “Terps” helmet–they really need to go back to the simple “M” helmets.

Any others?

Bad helmets:
Duke
Florida (it’s cheesy, for real)
Maryland
Northwestern
Kansas State
Washington State
Oregon (yellow)

ive always liked that the shape of west virginia…
http://www.americanf...
looked like the shape of this…
http://i9.tinypic.co...
if im not mistaken they make that gesture in morgantown at games

Nice. That made me laugh. Their own version of the “Hook Em Horns”? The “F Em Neers”…

There’s a lot of great helmet out there, how about the bad ones?

I’d like to nominate U. of Md.’s “Terps” helmet–they really need to go back to the simple “M” helmets.

Any others?

Funny you mention that. When I was making my list if goof helmets, I was also noticing some bad ones. MD definitely made that list! Either go back to the M, or just put a red state on white background. But yeah, the Terps needs to go.

Some other bad ones:
Wake Forest, Louisville, Illinois, Iowa State, UAB, San Diego State (two tone), Oregon State, Florida.