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The Buffalo Sabres revealed their long-awaited (and heavily criticized) new logos and uniforms on Saturday.
Nike Roundup:
On Wednesday of this past week, two comments were posted that were vulgar and rude enough to catch my attention. Paul and I believe that the person that posted these comments found the blog through a link from the USA Today article available here. Paul was quoted in the article and had some negative things to say about the current state of uniforms at the University of Oregon (what else is new). Apparently this person who called himself “j” (from here on known as “NikeSuperFan”) couldn’t handle criticism of Oregon’s classy atrocious uniforms, and felt the need to verbally attack this blog, Paul and everyone who “wastes” their time here.
NikeSuperFan first posted at 2:54 P.M. EST on Wednesday. He was responding to Paul’s decision to decline the invitation to appear on a local Oregon radio station. Here is his entry:
Paul Lukas said:
In response to that USA Today article, I’ve gotten several inquiries from radio stations that want to interview me (read: looking for free content to fill their airtime). One was a sports talk station in Oregon, whose producer said that having me on would “help stir things up.” Having been around this particular block a few times, I know that’s a polite way of saying, “Come on our show so we can totally abuse you for making fun of our uniforms,” so I declined.
I did accept an invitation to talk about uniforms on AM 800 CKLW, in Windsor/Detroit, however. They’re gonna have me on at 5:45pm EST. Unfortunately, they don’t seem to have streaming audio.
NikeSuperFan said:
[personal insult deleted/IP will be banned if this continues -webmaster edit]
His response was ugly enough that I had to immediately censor it, as you can see above. The record of this comment is still available here.
At this point, I thought it was over. I warned the poster that I would ban the IP address he was commenting from if this continued. Usually people get the point. Not NikeSuperFan.
Only four minutes later, he posted this (permalink):
NikeSuperFan Said:
Paul-What makes you a design expert anyway? You say there is good design and bad design…what the f*ck do you know about design?
You’ve obvously missed the entire point of the uniforms…TO GET PEOPLE TALKING!
Thanks for pushing the agenda.
While this was mild compared to his first post, it was still annoying. I checked his IP and put it into the “blacklist”. This means the person can still view the site but is not allowed to post comments (as of right now, this is the only IP blacklisted). Still, something didn’t sit right with me about his comments. Why so angry? Why so defensive? So, I ran a trace on his IP address. Normally this will return somthing like “Comcast – Philadelphia” or “Verizon – Boulder, CO”. This time, to my complete surprise, it returned “Nike – Beaverton, OR”. I was shocked.
For the benefit of those who don’t completely understand what this means, let me explain. This information tells us that someone at the Nike Worldwide Headquarters (presumably an employee) has been checking this site and has verbally abused those who visit here in profanity-laced tirades. I’m sure some of you are thinking, “So what, what’s the big deal?”. It’s not that simple. Nike has allowed an employee to use company equipment from Nike Headquarters to attack Paul, the site and those who frequent here. Not cool. Most companies would never allow it to happen. In all fairness to Nike, they probably don’t know about it, but it isn’t my job to look into what their employees are using their equipment for, it’s their job.
I could have contacted Nike and informed them what one of their employees had done. I’m sure it’s a fireable offense, but I really didn’t want that weighing on my conscience. Instead, I developed a counter that tracks how often Nike visits the site. It’s not the greatest revenge, but it’ll be interesting to see how much they’re checking up on this little uniform community. Anyway, I wanted to tell everyone here the entire story, because I’ve discussed it briefly in the comments section the last few days.
Feel free to use this thread for technical questions regarding the site along with the regular uniform banter. I’ll be checking in throughout the day.
#1 by Mike Miller on 09.17.06 10:50 am |
For those fearing the death of teal in the NFL, Don’t worry, I-AA Coastal Carolina has your back.
CCU-GA Southern game story
#2 by Jeff E. on 09.17.06 11:03 am |
The ugly logo aside, I also don’t like that the Sabre’s jersey has no striping on the front or back, only on the sleeves. It makes the uniform seem unbalanced. Also, what’s wrong with just blue & gold as the colors? Why the silver stripes too? In my opinion it’s an unecessary color on the uniform.
#3 by Paul Lukas on 09.17.06 11:23 am |
My two cents on the Nike thing:
1) I think John’s counter is genius. It’s a clever tweak, a playful wink, very much in the spirit of Uni Watch.
2) Personally, I don’t really care if someone at Nike posts nasty things about me, whether here or anywhere else. I’ve certainly written more than my share of nasty things about them, so it’s not surprising that someone over there finally snapped. Whatever. In general, I don’t mind if people criticize me or Uni Watch in the Comments section — negative comments can be valid comments, and I never expected the site to be a fan club. My problem has always been — and will always continue to be — when people post nasty comments about each other. I also wouldn’t tolerate an outsider (from Nike or anywhere else) coming in and bashing this site’s readership. But if anyone wants to criticize me, that’s fair game — I put my work out there and people can react however they like.
3) Similarly, I don’t share John’s outrage over someone “using Nike equipment” to bash the site. Almost everyone who reads Uni Watch does so at work. Why should any readers at Nike be any different?
4) I should point out that a few people from Nike and Reebok are Uni Watch fans. They may not agree with everything I write here, but they appreciate the general Uni Watch concept. By the same token, I appreciate that lots of extremely talented people work at Nike and Reebok, that they’ve done some genuinely innovative things, and that they create some excellent products. My beef with them isn’t even so much about their bad designs but rather that those bad designs are part of a larger branding approach, which to my mind is antithetical to how the fan/team relationship should work. But you all know my thoughts on that already.
5) While further discussions of Nike-related issues are inevitable (I’ll certainly be doing my share), I would like it very much if Nike’s relationship to this site did not become a major topic here. The counter speaks for itself — no need to go on and on about it.
6) John rocks. But by now you’re all realizing that too. I’m lucky to have such an engaged and vigilant webmaster.
#4 by Vincent A. Cipollone on 09.17.06 11:33 am |
I’ve decided to come out and say it: “I like Oregon’s jerseys. However, I don’t think they should’ve changed from these uniforms. Those are, in my opinion, the best Oregon unis ever.
#5 by Mr. Met on 09.17.06 11:49 am |
I wouldn’t be too surprised if “NikeSuperFan” was the dope who designed the jerseys. Just being protective of his work……
#6 by Mr. Met on 09.17.06 11:52 am |
Were those Sabres jerseys designed by Reebok? Because the striping on the sleeves looks a lot like the triple-stripe on the Atlanta Falcons jerseys……
#7 by Minna H on 09.17.06 12:03 pm |
I posted this in yesterday’s thread before this thread opened, so I’m posting it again. I want to make sure that Mike from Queens sees it. Quasi-apology for the double-post.
Mike from Queens: the monogrammed devil is ‘genius’ (or just dang good) because when I see it, I immediately know that it’s New Jersey. That’s brand recognition at its finest. In addition, the devil who is not The Devil is a sly way of tweaking people who protest that sort of thing. Finally, it’s just damn cute. Genius!
I don’t believe any of this (I support the Wild, though I’m not a huge hockey fan); I just want you to come to MN and wash my car for a year.
#8 by Leroy on 09.17.06 12:11 pm |
Totally random and unrelated, but i’ve never gotten a straight answer on why there are no Hartford Whalers licensed jerseys available. I’ve contacted the NHL a number of times on it with no success. Anyone know who owns the logo, Hartford, the Canes?
#9 by DJ on 09.17.06 12:24 pm |
Well done, webmaster!
now onto the buffaslug…i think its worse than expected, if thats even possible! too much ugly striping on the arms, the numbers on the chest don’t really look like they belong, and if i played for buffalo i really don’t know how serious i could be with that ugly logo on my sweater – what a disaster
#10 by tim on 09.17.06 12:45 pm |
Useless information, but CSTV had the big Northwestern State vs. Delaware State game on, and while everyone on NW State had nameplates, #4 Greg Skidmore was missing his.
#11 by Big Ed on 09.17.06 12:49 pm |
being a Duck fan AND a fan of Nike constantly being at the forefront of fashion/function w/ regards to cutting edge technology..i DO NOT approve of personal blasts based solely on someone’s opinion of a uniform for God’s sake! I’m a bit odd I guess…I love the simplicity of the Steelers unis for example AND also find worth in University of Nike’s unis…
#12 by Terry Mark on 09.17.06 12:51 pm |
It looks like the Buffalo Sabres borrowed the Indiana Pacers’ color scheme.
The “Buffa-slug” is particularly offensive because they had a great logo, the original one. How about just putting the classic logo on the new jersey and altering the logo to match the new color scheme?
Actually, my favorite Buffalo logo was the alternate one from the last few years — the “B” with the sabre through it — now that’s genius.
#13 by Mike from Queens on 09.17.06 12:53 pm |
Minna H said:
You buy me a round trip plane ticket, give me a place to stay for a night, and feed me—I’ll wash your car next weekend. Promise.
As for those Sabre unis, someone mentioned yesterday that the logo is simply too high on the chest, exposing too much white, making the logo look even worse. Totally agree. And although I like the concept of the number on the front, it looks a tad to big and intrusive. Move it out and up from center, and shrink it from size 12 font to size 10, much better. Also, besides their gloves… I can’t detect any logo creep in there. maybe the goalie’s collar.
#14 by Nick on 09.17.06 12:53 pm |
I’m a Bruins fan, yet the Sabres are breaking my heart. Thos are possibly the worst jerseys I’ve ever seen in the NHL. Just atrocious. They’ve gone from the best unis in hockey to a total disgrace, twice over.
And shockingly, it seems like Buffalo fans are convincing themselves that they like the unis based on response on another message board.
There sure doesn’t seem to be any great outcry.
If I ever get the Chris Drury jersey I so badly want, it sure won’t be this jersey.
#15 by stephen on 09.17.06 1:02 pm |
the reason why there are no hartford whalers jerseys is because the prvious owner wants nobody to have anything ever associated with the team. maybe he’s asking too much for the rights or he’s just a sour old man, but until he decides to ever sell his rights you will NEVER see the whalers again. even with ea’s nhl game that featured a remake of nhl 94 the whalers were represented by a different team/logo (i can’t remember which one).
as for the sabres jersey, i think they need to bring back the old ones from the glory days. the blue and gold was all they needed. i think 2 colours for nhl teams is just enough. look at toronto, detroit, old l.a. kings, they were simple but effective. 3 colours aren’t bad but too many just makes it confusing.
one more comment on nhl jerseys. to commemmorate the upcoming 2007-2008 seaosn next year, i think the original 6 and new 6 teams should wear throwbacks for when they play each other. it’s celebrating 40 years of nhl expansion and it would be fun to see some old unis shown. dallas can wear north star jerseys. someone whould have to figure san jose could wear golden seals jerseys because of the seals’ california, cleveland, minnisota-merge and minnisota-split to make the sharks. nhl movements can be confusing.
#16 by Lorenzo T. Manningham on 09.17.06 1:02 pm |
First off, I would like to express my disagreement with what the webmaster did- as it is Paul’s site, and if you aren’t going to leave a post related to uniforms, then, frankly, I think I speak for a majority of the other readers when I say that we don’t care. If some radical wants to say what he wants, which is the point of a blog, I agree with Paul in saying whats the point in censoring him- just sensor the vulgarity of his text. Being a fan of Nike and their products and also of this website, I like the Nike counter, but the last thing Paul needs is any kind of a scuffle with the conglomerate that is Nike, Inc; I certainly wouldn’t want anything to interfere with his contributing the extraordinary content on this site… Lorenzo T. Manningham, 16
#17 by JTH on 09.17.06 1:06 pm |
The Bears are wearing their white jerseys today. Interesting — it’s the second year in a row they’ve done that for the first home game.
Well, they trounced the Lions while wearing white in last year’s home opener, so if it happens again this year, that’s good enough for me.
#18 by Brinke Guthrie on 09.17.06 1:09 pm |
this was the first time i saw the buffalo jersey. my first thought was, ‘where’s the rest of it?’ it just looks like a T-shirt.
As far as the Ducks go, being garish just for the sake of being ‘cutting edge,’ (whatever that means) makes no sense.
And..
went into Sports Authority yesterday to buy myself a Niners Reebok shirt (can’t find em anywhere) and the guy there said Under Armour is cleaning Nike’s clock in sales. No contest.
#19 by Eric on 09.17.06 1:12 pm |
The Dolphins are wearing white at home today when the heat index is 95 degrees forcing the Bills to wear their very dark blue jerseys. Shouldn’t the Bills have either light blue or red alternate jerseys to counter this effect?
#20 by Brinke Guthrie on 09.17.06 1:13 pm |
Lorenzo T. Manningham said:
Uh….what? “Anything to interfere with the content on the site?” Like Nike could do ANYthing. A scuffle? Not sure I get the meaning, but it seems to imply that a sporting goods company could shut down a website. Ah, no.
#21 by Will on 09.17.06 1:20 pm |
Eric said:
I think the NFL requires you to choose dates for third jerseys in advance (I think there was a list here or on the ESPN column).
Also, this is probably why the Bears are wearing white, as one poster noted above.
#22 by Mike on 09.17.06 1:21 pm |
stephen said:
Actually, no.
The City of Hartford owns the team’s name and insignia, and they keep it in case the NHL wants to come back (They would re-use the insignia and name). They do demand a hefty fee for merchandising rights though, you’re bang on there… but there is no ’sour old man’ gate-keeping the Whalers logo from anyone, the City just wants to keep the past in the past…
#23 by Mike on 09.17.06 1:22 pm |
Will said:
Home teams also have to choose what jersey to wear, and away teams have to choose the jersey to counter it, all on that same date…
#24 by John Ekdahl on 09.17.06 1:23 pm |
Lorenzo T. Manningham said:
Plenty of people here watched the entire thing unfold and there was interest in what was going on. Since Paul doesn’t regularly post on weekends, it was a good time to give everyone a summary of what happened and what the response was so we could put it to rest once and for all.
#25 by Tricia on 09.17.06 1:30 pm |
I like the Sabres colours, the logo is brutal though.
Hopefully when they wear the retro throwbacks during the season, they will have shells in the correct colours, because the navy pants look silly with the different blue of the jerseys and socks.
Chris Drury
Not a huge fan of the lack of symmetry between the two jerseys, either – white jerseys have blue sleeves, but not vice versa.
#26 by Brinke Guthrie on 09.17.06 1:31 pm |
Watching the Raiders/Ravens. 6:35 to go in the first…and the Raiders have ONE TOTAL YARD of offense. That’s 1.0.
So after the Ravens kick an FG, the Raiders get the ball back. Here we go.
And Brooks fumbles the first snap. Ball to Ravens.
I catch my first glimpse of the Art Shell Face.
#27 by Mike on 09.17.06 1:36 pm |
Excellent post explaining what’s been going on lately with Nike. I was wondering why the Nike tally count in the side bar was put there yesterday (or Friday). Sometimes I don’t have enough time to scroll through the 100+ responses each day and see the stories behind the stories…
#28 by Duncan on 09.17.06 1:39 pm |
watching the panthers/vikings game, DeAngelo Williams has sleeves so short the reebok logo is behind the panthers logo.
JP Losman has his above, I’m not sure why Williams’ would be moved backwards and way off center
#29 by Aaron on 09.17.06 1:45 pm |
Are there any shots of the typography of the names of the Buffalo players on the Sabres jersey’s?
#30 by Forrest on 09.17.06 1:49 pm |
So I was in the dining hall yesterday (up here at N. Colorado), and we were watching the end of the OU-OU game. After Oregon won, I overhear a table of girls discussing the uniforms of the game. Some things said include: “I’m glad Oregon won, but I don’t like the polka dots on their jerseys” and “I wish they had a uniform Super Bowl. That would be cool.” Paul, I think your next trip should be up here, you’ll have influence…
#31 by John Ekdahl on 09.17.06 1:50 pm |
Aaron said:
The typography is visable in the locker behind Daniel Briere in the picture. So far, that’s the best I could find.
#32 by JTH on 09.17.06 1:53 pm |
Mike said:
If the home team is wearing white, doesn’t the visiting team have to wear its primary colored jersey? I think the only exception is for throwback games like when the Bears wore their orange jerseys from the 1930s in Dallas on Thanksgiving of 2004.
And speaking of the Bears (again), Bernard Berrian is doubling up on the socks again today, but he’s only showing one set of stripes, unlike last week where he had an extra set of stripes around his knees.
#33 by Leroy on 09.17.06 2:16 pm |
Thanks for the Whalers info. I think that jives with what I heard from Mitchell and Ness. They have the NHL license but maybe did not pony up for the Whalers rights.
#34 by TimmyB on 09.17.06 2:24 pm |
Leroy said:
OK, now that we have the story on why we can’t get our hands on a Hartford Whalers throwback jersey, I have a question. Why is it you can’t find a Cleveland Barons licensed jersey? I’ve been looking for one for years. No luck yet. Anyone know the real deal?
#35 by Tom K on 09.17.06 2:35 pm |
Im really hoping this white jersey at home trend doesnt continue deeper into the season. I know its because of the heat, but i mean its maybe 80 degrees in chicago right noww, but even in other places it hasnt been hot and they still wore white.
This reminds me of how the NHL switched to colors at home which i found annoying because it had been white at home for years.
In addition to the Bears, the Bengals are wearing white at home, both teams almost never wear white at home, except as mention the bears against Detroit last year.
Anyone else thing the majority of colored jerseys look better than white?
#36 by Brinke Guthrie on 09.17.06 2:55 pm |
Falcons, all-black @ home. And what’s this deal of Vick and the DB holding up the ball high over their head as they’re running with it?
#37 by ALK on 09.17.06 2:55 pm |
Carson Palmer has a slit cut into the underside of his right sleeve, Ã la Pedro Martinez.
#38 by See me at the Club on 09.17.06 3:18 pm |
I was watching the highlights from the Penn State – Youngstown State game today and I noticed that the YSU qb was wearing jersey number 24. I understand that there are no uni number rules in NCAA football, but do 1AA teams have different rules.
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I havent seen a qb wear a double digit number since Flutie Flakes’ Hail Mary
http://www.collegeje...
Here is the qb’s Bio:
24 Tom Zetts QB 6-1 210 JR (3V) Boardman, OH (Boardman HS)
#39 by mike on 09.17.06 3:26 pm |
Heath Shuler also comes to mind.
#40 by mike on 09.17.06 3:26 pm |
Heath Shuler:
http://web.knoxnews....
#41 by JTH on 09.17.06 3:32 pm |
Tom K said:
Absolutely. To me, the only team that has white jerseys that look better than the colored ones is the Cowboys.
But hey, the Bears are kicking the living shit out of the Lions two years in a row while wearing white at home, so they could be wearing Oregon-style unis right now and I’d be happy.
OK, maybe not.
#42 by Nick on 09.17.06 3:37 pm |
See me at the Club said:
The Pillsbury Throwboy Jared Lorenzen wore 22 at Kentucky, although I don’t have a link for that
#43 by Jack H. on 09.17.06 3:38 pm |
Honestly, those Sabres jerseys aren’t that bad. Not great, but they could be worse.
#44 by My Name is Not Earl on 09.17.06 3:38 pm |
At least the Bills aren’t wearing their all-blue combo. But then again, maybe that’s a “road” thing–they wear the blue pants with the blue shirts at home, and white pants when they have to wear blue on the road.
But seeing how well the Bills are playing right now (I hope I don’t jinx them!), maybe they should wear the white pants more often.
#45 by My Name is Not Earl on 09.17.06 3:41 pm |
Here’s J-Lo in all his glory.
#46 by Michael on 09.17.06 3:47 pm |
The logo on the Sabres jersey is ugly, yes, but I love the colors used(that shade of navy goes with that shade of gold even IMO better than the old blue and gold did), I actually really think the jersey # in the shoulder looks nice, and unlike most of you, I prefer the lack of gaudy vertical stripes below the logo. I have never liked those, even for the more traditional teams. To me, it’s just fugly.
#47 by Paul Lukas on 09.17.06 3:56 pm |
Aaron said:
Look here and here.
#48 by Mike from Queens on 09.17.06 4:08 pm |
Nick said:
Bang, bang.
On a similar note, I’ve seen a few kickers recently with some ridiculously high numbers. Like in the 70s or 80s. I don’t have a name or a starting point, so no photo evidence. Anyone? Anything?
Paul, how’d you get that pic of those name templates?
#49 by Brinke Guthrie on 09.17.06 4:12 pm |
Watching Rams @ Niners; no stripes on Ram pants- did I miss that change I guess.
#50 by Andrew on 09.17.06 4:15 pm |
I’ve seen this before on other people, but the Lions’ Jamar Fletcher has obscenely long straps that are used to button his helmet up. He didn’t do this in college at Wisconsin. But has done it earlier in his NFL career
#51 by Wayne on 09.17.06 4:19 pm |
I don’t know if this was mentioned last Sunday, but Carson Palmer has “Bengals” written on his helmet’s front bumper, while his teammates (or at least those that I’ve seen) have “Riddell” on theirs. There are great comparison pics in this past week’s Sports Illustrated, and I noticed in today’s game he still has “Bengals” on his front bumper.
#52 by Joe on 09.17.06 4:25 pm |
Brinke Guthrie said:
I could be wrong, but I don’t think the Rams have had stripes on the pants since the redesign in 2000.
#53 by Paul Lukas on 09.17.06 4:27 pm |
Mike from Queens said:
Hey, a fella’s gotta maintain a few secrets….
#54 by Josh W. on 09.17.06 4:34 pm |
Mike from Queens said:
Well, UGA kicker Brandon Coutu and punter Gordon Ely-Kelso both wear numbers in the 90’s. And Tennessee punter Britton Colquitt used to wear #80 his freshman year, but then changed to #47 a la his brother Dustin
Also, former Wake Forest punter Ryan Plackemeier wore #81
I’m pretty sure Memphis’ kicker last year wore #96 last year. He’s on the Pats now, but I’m too lazy to look him up after linking all those other pics.
#55 by Josh W. on 09.17.06 4:37 pm |
crap, forgot some. Ely-Kelso
Dustin Colquitt
#56 by Steven on 09.17.06 4:41 pm |
Mike Nugent wore 85 at Ohio State and now Kicker Ryan Petorius (sp) wears 85
#57 by noah on 09.17.06 4:42 pm |
Mike Miller said:
I go to CCU…They get new uniforms every game!!! There are black ones, teal ones, white ones-ones with “Chanticleers” and ones with nifty “Panthers” stripes. They have a tiny, crappy library and a crappy science facility (which is funny considering they are this BIG marine science skool ‘Coastal’… and they spend EVERYTHING from all the out-of-staters on Football. Or as Ms. Boucher said, “Foozball!”
#58 by noah on 09.17.06 4:52 pm |
Elaborating further on my previous post….Does anyone know what teams do from year to year with their old unis? (CCU is Adidas) Does the manufacturer take ‘em and save them? I know I NEVER see Adidas jerseys in Myrtle Beach anywhere….I just wonder where these $200 shirts go after their sterility seal is broken. Seems like a waste of money to Noah….What do I know….Same question for all those magic Nike jerseys in 1A…Miami comes to mind. Do the players just keep them under glass?
#59 by Josh W. on 09.17.06 5:01 pm |
noah said:
I’ve actually seen Miami game worn jerseys for sale on auctions on their website. I’m sure other schools do that too. But for the most part, I’m sure the players get to keep the jerseys. My dad still has his 1980 Bluebonnet Bowl Jersey that he wore at Tennessee.
#60 by Timmy D on 09.17.06 5:13 pm |
I just have to say that those throwback third jerseys are way better than the buffaslug jerseys. The buffaslug logo is too small for the amount of space there is on the front and it looks a little weird. You gotta love that striping on the throwback socks. Also, it looks weird wearing the old jerseys with what looks like the new color scheme hockey pants…the colors are off. Hopefully they will see that the old jerseys look better in the 15 games they are gonna play in them and go with them for the future…a man can dream.
Go Bears
#61 by Tom on 09.17.06 5:22 pm |
Interesting, if bizare stuff about the Nike spying. I read the stuff on the origin of the now iconic Michigan “winged” helmet. Anyone else find it interesting that the design started out initially with a seem patern developped by Spaulding. As much as I complain about equipement companies dictating uniforms to teams, I find that story to be hauntingly similar to CoolFlow helmets in MLB, the Riddel Revolution helmets, and the Nike development of the Denver Broncos new unis (remember Nike used that template, although not as colorfull on teams like the Giants, Cowboys, Falcons and Steelers). I guess those corporate guys can get it right every now and again.
#62 by Mike from Queens on 09.17.06 5:33 pm |
Josh W. said:
Stephen Gostkowski:
With New England, #3.
Wearing #20 for baseball.
Wearing football jersey, #32.
Steven said:
That’s who I saw that reminded me of it. College (#85). Big time (#1).
#63 by Steve-O on 09.17.06 5:35 pm |
John Ekdahl said:
check out the look on Briere’s face as he is putting on that ugly buffaslug jersey. he can’t beleive he has to wear it! i do like the sabres’ alternates though, they look very classy. btw john, i think you do a heck of a job and that retard who was posting that crap deserves to be blacklisted.
#64 by Frank Mercogliano on 09.17.06 5:37 pm |
The only rules in college regarding numbers are that if you wear 50-79, you can’t be eligible as a receiver on offense.
At Idaho State, we have a kicker-punter wearing 39, a punter wearing 43, and a kicker wearing 87….product of what was available.
Here’s what nuts…many, many teams have double numbers…one guy wearing say #7 on offense, and one guy on the same team wearing #7 on defense. This makes it hell on announcers, and worse, statisticians…the NCAA needs a rule that you can’t have double numbers like that….there’s not 100 guys that are gonna play in a game, so it seems dumb to have double numbers.
Frank
#65 by Steve-O on 09.17.06 5:39 pm |
Tom K said:
i totally agree with you. white jerseys just don’t look good, except in baseball. teams like the yankees and dodgers have excellent white jersey unis. in sports like hockey and football however, white is bad. especially the colts jerseys with those stripe patches sowed onto the shoulders
#66 by Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem on 09.17.06 5:55 pm |
Sabres said they had 80 designs they picked through…..and this was the best one ? The article I read also said the design went through 12 revisions. 12 revisions and we got that ? Reminds me for no reason of the Simpsons episode where Bart spreads the strike rumor to the teachers and by the end it ends up a “purple monkey dishwasher”. Tradition,…..what did Buffalo fans do to deserve this ?
#67 by MetsfanAZ on 09.17.06 6:22 pm |
D-Backs are playing the Rockies on TV. it’s as bad as you can imagine, probably worse.
#68 by concealed78 on 09.17.06 6:48 pm |
I guess Nike wouldn’t be too thrilled to be seeing or hearing about all the Hate Nike Rallies I’ve been attending, where we burn Nike merchandise at the stake; along with our “The Swoosh is Satan” chant; pitchforks in hand and all. (and no, we don’t wear masks)
We consumers don’t like paying premium prices when we should be paying sweatshop prices for our Nike shoes.
Of course I have a boycott on all-things Nike for a while now, we just burn stuff we’ve amassed over the years.
and btw, Oregon’s uniforms blow like pig excrement. Nike, you really shouldn’t design uniforms that hurt people. We’re on to your sick little cruel joke.
I expect a black van with a marked Swoosh on the side to come abduct me when I go for a walk soon.
(can I say all of this on here, Paul & John?)
#69 by J Rob on 09.17.06 6:49 pm |
2 things watching the Browns game.
1. The Bengals holder for field goals has a one bar facemask.
2. Chad Johnson got popped pretty damn good on a play, helmet came off, and had blood all over his jersey.
of course I have no pictures of either, anyone?
#70 by Kyle on 09.17.06 7:05 pm |
noah said:
As an athlete at a D1 school that was affiliated with Nike, we kept our jerseys. The best was after my soph year my school switched from Adidas to Nike and we got to keep all of our old Adidas gear.
#71 by Mr. Met on 09.17.06 7:13 pm |
Joe said:
That sounds right; the Rams wore white pants in 2001, and I recall the pants having gold stripes down the side. It’s not easy to see in
this picture but it looks like the gold side panel on the jersey (which they used until 2002 I believe)extends down to the pants.
And of course there are the navy blue pants with the stripes. But the gold pants have never had stripes.
#72 by Brinke Guthrie on 09.17.06 7:19 pm |
concealed78 said:
I think they use black helicopters, not vans.
#73 by Minna H on 09.17.06 7:35 pm |
Mike from Queens said:
Hey, you put no qualifiers on your offer! Let’s see…three hundred on a plane ticket; I’d have to take you out to eat as I don’t cook, and I don’t have cable, either…I think I’ll pay the seven dollars for the premium wash at the local gas station. Thanks, anyway, Mike.
As for the Buffaslug: it’d make a great stuffed animal, but it’s a horrible mascot.
#74 by Nicole on 09.17.06 8:13 pm |
Wisconsin Badger punter (and Ray Guy watchlist member) Ken DeBauche wears number 94
#75 by Kevin @ Fanblogs.com on 09.17.06 8:43 pm |
Nike owes you boys an apology & maybe your own throwback Ducks jerseys – you know, the ones without the suck.
#76 by Dennis O'Neil on 09.17.06 8:47 pm |
noah said:
There is a website (maybe more) where you can purchase game wron jerseys.
Link Here
#77 by Mike from Queens on 09.17.06 8:47 pm |
Minna H said:
Actually, I looked up the airfare and it would be $292 for a ticket this weekends. Plus $50 or so to cover my rental car, and maybe only about $30 in food / entertainment. That would be one night with me for about $400. Obviously a win-win situation if you like young, unattractive men with beer bellies, strange odors, and the personality of a well-trained dog.
Uni-question: what’s the NFL rule on shoe color again? I thought it was only black or white, and that it should be uniform for the whole team. Giants observations from the last two weeks:
Brandon Jacobs with blue outlining his toe. Eli and David Diehl wearing simple black. Jay Feely’s fading blue into black kicking shoe (I know the rules are different for kickers). Plax Burress with a whole lot of red showing. Tiki’s red-accented shoes. Antonio Pierce with serious redness (bonus shot of Dominic Rhodes’ name template coming off. Chad Morton might be the most egregious offender. Someone there with blue socks and red shoes (I know both teams wear blue socks, but the Giants keep more blue showing than the Colts).
So questions are:
Since when was red allowed? How much is too much? These shoes are certainly not uniform. Are other teams as flippantly misbehaved?
#78 by Mark in Shiga on 09.17.06 8:53 pm |
Rutgers had a kicker named Jared Slovan wearing number 47 during my tenure there a few years ago. As I recall, there was some family-related reason for it, but I can’t remember it now.
#79 by VictorsValiant on 09.17.06 9:10 pm |
Paul,
I am an employee of Nike and read your blog pretty much every day and I love it! There are plenty of Nike employees who think that the Duck uniforms are ugly so don’t paint all of us with a single brush.
Yes, the design is supposed to get people talking, but that should include those of us who think the uniforms are butt-ugly. Nikesuperfan is probably one of the many corporate sell-outs who think that Nike can do no wrong.
Keep up the good work. Go Blue!
#80 by Brinke Guthrie on 09.17.06 9:38 pm |
Logo Creep Alert: major Under Armour presence in the new movie by “The Rock.”
#81 by Josh W. on 09.17.06 9:40 pm |
Brinke Guthrie said:
That was actually metioned on here a while ago. Way before the commercials came out.
#82 by Brian from Short Island on 09.17.06 9:43 pm |
Feeley’s wearing a Nike Air Zoom Total 90 III football boot (soccer shoe) on his kicking foot.
#83 by Jonathan on 09.17.06 10:00 pm |
noah said:
I went to Coastal for a semester. Three sets of pants (apparently four now with the new stripes on the black ones) and three jerseys.
Great school if you don’t mind 7000 drunk rich kids from New Jersey.
#84 by Aaron on 09.17.06 10:17 pm |
Paul Lukas said:
Ugh, nameplates, will they ever learn?
#85 by Steve Prudente on 09.17.06 10:23 pm |
I have no photographic evidence to support this, but in the intros for tonight’s Cowboys/Redskins game, the Cowboys players were all wearing their seldom-seen blue jerseys in their headshots. Also, why is Drew Bledsoe wearing eye black during a night game?
#86 by Jim on 09.17.06 10:36 pm |
Steve Prudente said:
To block the glare off the defense’s helmets that are always in his face?
:)
#87 by Steve Prudente on 09.17.06 10:38 pm |
Josh W. said:
Not to toot my own horn, but I posted about this topic here.
Another note about the Cowboys/Redskins game, I don’t know if it’s more obvious now because they’re wearing black shoes, but it looks like many of the Redskins are using an extreme amount of tape on their shoes, including the hosiery-obsessed Shawn Taylor, who just forced a fumble.
#88 by Eric on 09.17.06 10:48 pm |
The new Sabres jerseys were designed to translate easy to the style jersey Reebok is coming out with. This includes the vertical metallic silver stripe. It’s supposed to continue from the pants, up through the jersey (which would be tucked in like they’re trying to do) and up over the shoulder. It’s supposed to represent a sabre.
The logo is smaller and high on the jersey for the same reason… to look right when the jersey is tighter. See the NHL practice jerseys for an example. The logo is smaller.
The only problem I have with the jerseys is the navy sleeves on the white jerseys. If you just pull a color switch from the navy jersey to the white, replacing the navy with white and vice-versa, you have an awesome design.
As for the alternates, there will be no other set of shells to match the vintage jersey this season. Next season they will have the color adjusted to match the pants (royal/gold, new navy/new gold).
#89 by Sammy on 09.17.06 10:52 pm |
VictorsValiant said:
How about adding the yellow Miami-style bib line to Michigan’s white uniforms? Do you think that is as bad as I do?
#90 by Nolan on 09.17.06 10:52 pm |
Wayne said:
This has actually been covered, but, the reason is that Palmer doesn’t wear a Riddell helmet. He uses I think a Schutt(could be wrong on that). Anyway, Riddell is the only company with a NFL deal to show their logo. Notice an “adams” brand chin strap, either the name has been scratched off or they have it taped over. Reggie Bush shows both of these here
#91 by Barney on 09.17.06 11:03 pm |
Jim said:
If you think it’s odd that Bledsoe’ wearing eyeblack during a night game, then you mustn’t have seen Clinton Portis on the sidelines. Not only is he sporting eyeblack, he’s not in uniform because he’s inactive for the game! What gives?
#92 by Eric G. on 09.17.06 11:21 pm |
Sammy said:
Honestly, I don’t think the bib looks that bad, at least on the white jerseys, where it’s harder to see. On Miami’s jerseys, the bib is always visible and usually ugly. At least the bib isn’t the worst thing that could potentially happen to Michigan. Could you imagine the blue jersey with that one maize sleeve [Virginia Tech, I'm looking at you], or, heaven forbid, a maize jersey.
Could you see Mario Manningham in a maize Michigan jersey?
I didn’t think so.
#93 by Eric G. on 09.17.06 11:26 pm |
is this really that bad?
#94 by JFront10 on 09.17.06 11:35 pm |
It seems like a lot of NFL players are wearing white cleats with black tape instead of actually wearing black cleats.
#95 by Minna H on 09.17.06 11:47 pm |
Mike from Queens said:
Hey, Mike from Queens, don’t be so hard on yourself–your beer-gut ain’t so bad, and neither are you. Plus, you have a tattoo–bonus points. I found a ticket for $264, which makes the offer that much more tempting. However, that $5.99 coupon from the local gas station has my name all over it. Thanks again.
To make this uni-related, I like the jerseys the Vikes wore today as they were actually purple. Roast me for saying this, but I like the intense purple much better than the almost-purple they wore last week.
#96 by Minna H on 09.17.06 11:52 pm |
Hey, Webmaster John, thanks for the explanation and for doing such a good job with the site. It wouldn’t be the same without you.
#97 by John Ekdahl on 09.17.06 11:59 pm |
Minna H said:
As always, thanks Minna.
#98 by Hugh on 09.18.06 12:49 am |
At Minnesota:
K Jason Giannini wears #31
K Joel Monroe wears #36
K Eric Ellestad wears #37
P Justin Kucek wears #41
Giannini kicks FG & XP, Monroe handles kickoffs, and Ellestad is being redshirted.
#99 by Tom K on 09.18.06 1:17 am |
Dennis O’Neil said:
I was looking at that site, and as bad as asymetrical sleeves are, i still think it’d be neat to add one to the collection just because there so unique and rare. There were a couple of Miami ones, and didnt miami wear those for just a single game?
However 300 bucks a pop its hardly worth it
#100 by Jack on 09.18.06 1:19 am |
I live in the Pacific Northwest and see quite a bit of Oregon merchandise worn. The colors and “O” logo on the apparel always look so great that I forget how the uni’s look on game day. I seem to remember about three years ago thinking Oregon had some of the best looking uniforms around. They seem to get worse every year. At least their helmet still looks terrific.
#101 by Tom K on 09.18.06 1:20 am |
http://collegejersey...
I happen to think that maybe one of the more classy jerseys to ever be created, a heisman winner in the classic Michigan jersey with the rose bowl patches on the shoulder…just wow, again tho, not worth 1G
#102 by mario on 09.18.06 1:37 am |
hey, you guys think you can direct me to any good websites that sell high socks with some nice stripage? i want to wear them for when basketball season comes around for my school, St. Mary’s High School in Stockton, California. i need some green and white stripes with maybe some black involved. send me a link if you can.
#103 by randy on 09.18.06 1:52 am |
Regarding college kickers and higher numbers…
It seems that it has become commonplace in some universities that the low numbers are the most popular for position players. At the University of South Florida, players constantly change to the lowest number whenever possible. When Andre Hall’s 2 became available this year, WR Jackie Chambers turned in his 83 for it. And so forth…
Kickers get whatever’s left, apparently. Ours are wearing 24, 28, 31 and 36, but we had a backup punter wearing 65 last year.
#104 by Tom K on 09.18.06 1:52 am |
mario said:
These are the best i could find with all three colors:
http://images.google...
these would look good if you doubled up on them
http://images.amazon...
#105 by Andrew on 09.18.06 2:04 am |
Speaking of kickers, what’s the deal with John Hall’s helmet?
John Hall
Why is his facemask curved at top? I don’t think I’ve seen anyone else with a curved facemask.
#106 by Jody on 09.18.06 2:08 am |
Some people are a little too touchy. This is my first post and I just wanted to say that I agree with your assessment of sports uniforms most of the time, especially when it comes to Oregon’s unis. Anywho, keep the great and interesting observations coming. Half of this stuff I would have never noticed or even looked for. It’s really quite interesting.
#107 by Paul Lukas on 09.18.06 2:17 am |
Steve Prudente said:
Better question: Why was Clinton Portis wearing eye black when he wasn’t even playing?
#108 by mario on 09.18.06 2:27 am |
Paul Lukas said:
something that’s weirder is that portis was also wearing receiver gloves. he wasn’t playing and it’s not THAT cold in dallas, so what gives?
#109 by mario on 09.18.06 2:31 am |
Tom K said:
thanks, but i kinda wanted some white ones, like the players back in like the 70’s wore with green stripes ont he top, not the opposite. i went to ebay and this was the best i could find.
#110 by mario on 09.18.06 2:35 am |
mario said:
oh snap, never mind. that’s the wrong link. those are womans’ socks. there’s soem punk skater company out of san diego that has some on ebay and froogle. just type in “green tube socks” under the search engine at google and you should find it.
#111 by Donny on 09.18.06 2:51 am |
Chester Taylor played the whole Vikes-Panthers game with a tear on his uniform’s shoulder.
tear
I don’t have a screencap, but I saw the tear during the pregame show, so it’s not from any in-game action.
#112 by Larry Gaston on 09.18.06 5:08 am |
Is there any Law worries about the Nike counter?
Now not getting crazy here but:
1. if I were Nike and caught wind of all this I really wouldn’t like it that someone traced an IP address and made a counter of my company fuming from one emoloyee.
2. Trust me Nike knows the law. If they don’t trust me they have enough resources to find one.
3. Do you really want to spar with a billion dollar company?
4. Personally I think it’s weak his comments were deleted and you told the story of how his IP address was traced. There was no need to trace where it went to, theres no need to get on here and announce where it was traced to. What kind of message are you sending to people that comment. “Hey we always know where you are” Thats not good policy.
Since I didnt see what he said I can’t tell you legaly what could be done, but if he didn’t threaten a life, everything else is all a matter of opinion.
I’m just trying to say, you DO NOT, want to piss off a company like Nike unless you believe you have the resources to do so.
It seems like if Nike does come at you, your defense will be, “Look what he said”. Don’t think that will save you if they legaly could do something.
I’m not a employee of Nike, check my IP it’ll say Raleigh, NC. I’m just saying don’t get in over your head here.
#113 by John on 09.18.06 9:21 am |
Eric G. said:
Among all the things Nike could have done, the yellow piping on the Michigan road jerseys is pretty minor. Michigan appears to keep the home jersey as “untouchable” – even though the current version is made in the bib style, it has no trim and even minimizes the Nike swoosh by putting in in the collar instead of on the shoulder. Penn State, Georgia and now USC all appear to use the bib style jersey without any piping.
However, Michigan has played around with the road uniforms over the years – I remember a road uniform with narrow blue/maize/blue stripes and white pants with matching stripes (think KC Chiefs sized stripes). The white pants didn’t last long, but the jerseys hung around. Through most of the 1980s/90s they had a Northwestern stripe pattern (with the wide center stripe in maize), and most recently the road jerseys (the batwing style ones) had a maize stripe above the blue cuff and a blue “M” on the sleeve. I look at the piping this way – you really can’t see it unless you see an extreme close-up shot, and maybe it’s a trade-off for using the tiny swoosh on the collar instead of the normal swoosh on the shoulder.
#114 by Ron on 09.18.06 9:40 am |
Larry Gaston said:
Dude, it’s Nike, not the Illuminati. Paul’s gonna be fine, and he’s got Disney to back him up.
I will say this: given their experience with garish uni colors, Nike would be a great supplier of prison jumpsuits for Gitmo detainees.
#115 by John on 09.18.06 11:18 am |
Andrew said:
Martin Grammatica used to have one bent a lot like that back in his days with Tampa Bay. I think the equipment managers just bend the facemask down until the kicker says it is enough out of their way. Since they outlawed the old single and double bars, I’ve seen some oddly cut facemasks on the kickers, particularly on the Riddell Revolution helmets.
#116 by a arauz on 09.18.06 12:25 pm |
Vincent A. Cipollone said:
uh ?? those are bad enough!
#117 by a arauz on 09.18.06 12:27 pm |
Big Ed said:
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#118 by Vincent on 09.18.06 12:29 pm |
J Rob said:
1. The only pics of Kyle Larson (the Belgals holder) i could found was with a regular helmet but did it looks like the one of Scott Player, which i saw this week-end… it was weird :D
2. Chad Johnson. :)
#119 by a arauz on 09.18.06 12:56 pm |
mario said:
Try Soccer.com for the rugby styled hooped socks.
#120 by Matthew on 09.18.06 4:07 pm |
Larry Gaston said:
Is this pro bono advice? Paul watch out if he tries to get you to pay a huge retainer.
I officially exhausted two-thirds of the legal jargon I know in that sentence.
#121 by Mike on 09.18.06 4:30 pm |
Though it’s not licenced stuff, I have in the past seen some good Whalers merch on ebay. I’ve seen some old fan jerseys plus in the past I bought a new green Whalers T. Keep the memory alive.